Basic knowledge is that fructose can do little except replenish liver glycogen. It is not used preferentially its just has limited use. If your liver glycogen stores are already filled it will be more readily turn into TG's and stored as adipose since it is of relatively no use for peripheral tissues. I got my metabolism of sugars down fairly well.ss01 said:
i'll give this a go friday AM as i only do cardio 3x week.jonny21 said:I am not too sure that is the case after reading this. I would expect your BS to be low after am cardio on an already glycogen depleted liver. If you had replenished glycogen stores prior to cardio and then came back with a low that would be out of the norm. If you don't mind be a guinea pig, try 45-60 grams of carbs 2 hrs prior to cardio and then check the BS. That way we know you had some liver glycogen to work with in the first place.
Not adipocytes using fructose, but unused fructose conversion to TG's(fat) is more likely since only select tissues have fructokinase to convert fructose. I think I see what you are saying/your point. In the case of low blood sugars what would the reasoning for adding fructose to make liver glycogen to make glucose to increase BS levels. Sounds like consistent low to mod GI CHO intake would solve the entire issue. Unless of course it intentional to Cardio in an unfed state to increase fatty acid metabolism. Would only do that if "ON" or taking some other anti-catabolic aid.ss01 said:
I think acetyl coA is the intermediary, not glucose.ss01 said:
There we go. Chasec has so graciously volunteered to test the liver glycogen idea. 
but following broology is stupid. the point stands: people stack anadrol and dbol at higher doses for longer periods of time. not saying it is good for the health like pure test might be, but its not really much worse than either of the compounds on their own.same_old said:
people stack dbol and drol? probably - stupid people who ignore the admonitions of broologists who know better. ask a responsible juicer about that wonderful cycle and he'll probably laugh at you (i would, anyway)SilentScream27 said:
i won't argue; but i will state that i don't fall into that category. i've run enough cycles and had enough bloodwork drawn post cycle to know how my body responds and what line NOT to cross. 28 days of 50mg/QD methylated substance is NOT a huge deal. a weeklong drinking binge which is quite normal for some people will put your enzymes way above what this cycle will do to me.ss01 said:
i didn't compare what i'm doing to stacking drol, dbol, var, etc. i simply said that the average daily dose of each of those compounds is ~50mg and higher for the drol. bottom line is my liver is processing 50mg of methylated substance a day, and that's not gonna kill it. in 2 weeks my liver enzymes will be back to normal and i'll be on the way to HPTA recoverySilentScream27 said:
ss01 said:Yes it is "up to 200g" obviously there are variations. That's a LOT of sugar, BTW. That's why I keep on going about fructose, because it is true that in LARGE doses it can be detrimental, but otherwise it is simply glycemia-insurance. Well, I must admit to being prone to rebound hypoglycemia... In retrospect I think it shows in my posts on this thread...
So I guess now we wait for the verdict? :yawn:
Hey Bro,chasec said:
Bro, that is DEEP. You're having someone else take carbs before running so you can find out if you're a lunatic? Science will never cease to amaze me!!jonny21 said:Wow, I am reading this back and realized what a lunatic I am.
:dance:godbless man, that's a big fucking question. as far as calibration, no i've not calibrated it in recent memory. as far as sides, when i dip below 60 i start experiencing dizziness. when i go to k-mart to pick up new test strips i'll get a new kit, they are only like 45 bucks now. i've been wanting one with the built in memory so i don't have to write this **** down.jonny21 said:Hey Bro,
Just looking for some info and I want to get the timeline down. You woke up with BS 61mg/dl. You ingested 200g of CHO? Too much at one time IMO, if so. Waited ~2hrs tested 84mg/dl then went running. How long & how far? BS after running was 69mg/dl.
Prior to SD did you ever test your am BS? To be honest a BS around the neighbor hood of 70 is pretty good, as long as there are no negative sides i.e. dizziness, nausea and such. Do you have a test kit for your Glucometer? Have you run it recently to check its calibration?
Wow, I am reading this back and realized what a lunatic I am.
To be honest, I wouldn't recommend consuming 100 grams of fructose. Maybe 20 to 30 grams of fructose (orange juice comes to mind) with an additional 20 to 30 from a low GI source. That's cause I am a 60 gram max CHO per meal type of guy.chasec said:
i wasnt even going to go over 20mg, i was planning on thisDR.D said:
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texas said:
Nevertheless, I will not give advise that I feel would put you at unnecessary risk. Orals are not as bad as they say, but do deserve extra respect. I'll check out your thread.
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diminuendo said:
See ya in a month!
I'm talking about the vast majority who would never even think of finding out about what they are doing to their bodies otherwise than asking "This is good, right?" to the guy who is SELLING them their illegal gear. :sad: