Superdol 3 0n 2 off repeat cycle

DmitryWI said:
what you people forgetting is SD stays in your system for another 5-6 days after your last dose, so you do almoust 4 weeks on and only one week off, not the best idea. Something to think about...
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Yes but takes 3-4 days to kick in... Maybe 2 weeks off are not enough, but if you are stacking something else as a base going for more than 7 is expensive and could be too suppressive (like 1,4 for me).
 
I was just talking about these guys, who running SD alone, I would take 3 weeks off, after last dose of SD, so tecnically they would get 2 weeks and few days off.
 
DmitryWI said:
I was just talking about these guys, who running SD alone, I would take 3 weeks off, after last dose of SD, so tecnically they would get 2 weeks and few days off.
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After trying that cycle, that is what I came back with. Making it a 3 week on 3 week off. My body didn't feel like it was ready for another cycle after 2 weeks. I wouldn't recommend it. Afterall it is just one extra week.
 
I'm still continuing the cycle, but I'm taking an extra week off.

For those who were wondering.
I've decided to take 3 weeks of pct, this week being the 3rd.
I cut the last 2 weeks and lost about 6 pounds, mostly fat but some muscle.

I'll be starting my second 3 week mini cycle next week, then take a 3 week break then one more mini cycle.

I'm currently sitting at about 231lbs, but feeling fery solid, and definately stronger than before the cycle.

I'm guessing I'm about upper 12% bodyfat at current.

Libido is fine and I really don't think the superdrol shut me down too much.
The next cycle will run as follows:
week 1 30mg ed
week2 30mg ed
week3 20mg ed

I'll be stuffing my face and drinking lots of green tea, plus doing cardio as before.

Any questions are welcome, as always.:)
 
Question, Two bottles will not only cover 3 wks on 3 wks off for two rounds but you'd actually have some left over, correct. No I'm not going to ask where to get it and neither should anyone else.
 
One bottle is 90 caps, and so 3 ED for 14 days and 2 ED for 7 days = 56 caps x 2 = 112 so there should be enough for another cycle in there to save for a later bulking date.
 
That's wat I was thinking 3 cycles of 3 weeks each will use up 2 of my bottles. (Mostly anyway)

Thats 9 weeks on and my stash will last 5 years. Thats only in theory though, since I'll probably need 40mg's when I hit 260lb's or so.

Maybe sooner. Only time will tell.
 
235lbs currently so back up 4 lbs after the 2 week cut.
Bodyfat has not increased.

Sorry for not updating, I've been swamped by studies.

I'm still on cycle about 30mg ed.
I really don't feel like I'm on, except for the extra muscle growth.
I've had no back pumps, no side effects mostly.
My stomach was cramping a bit over the weekend but I doubt it's the superdrol.

All other supps are the same.

Strength has been up even more. Not on all exercises though, my legs are strong as hell though, got 1050lbs on the leg press for 10 reps quite easely, not that thats unusual or anything.

I'll be happy if I end this cycle on 242 solid pounds, as my lagging bodyparts are coming up nicely, namely chest, bi's and shoulders.

I'm going for 315 pound squats for 20 reps tomorrow! wish me luck...

I'll update again soon
 
Does everyone think the 3 on 3 off format is not optimal?

I'm thinking of taking a bit on a longer break after this one, 4 weeks maybe, just so I'll respond better when I go on again.

I'd like to break 253 at under 14% bf before I stop bulking in 3 months or so.
 
I think it can still be used good, but after seeing more results come back 3on 4-5off would be optimal. I'm not saying PCT that whole time, but that would at least get your body back to its normal lipid levels. Before butchering it again :)
 
TheManGuy said:
Does everyone think the 3 on 3 off format is not optimal?

I'm thinking of taking a bit on a longer break after this one, 4 weeks maybe, just so I'll respond better when I go on again.

I'd like to break 253 at under 14% bf before I stop bulking in 3 months or so.
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Let me be the first to say that ;)
 
hey the man guy,

why are you doing
week 1 30mg ed
week2 30mg ed
week3 20mg ed

is that just your way off doing things, or is there scientic research behind doing
week 1 30mg ed
week2 30mg ed
week3 20mg ed ?
 
Magickk said:
I'm adopting the 3on 2(maybe 3) off cycle as well, started today...
Good thread btw!
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I would rethink that, or at least look over cedeoudes59's logs. The way this cycle was run crashed his lipid profiles. I wouldn't recommend less than 4 weeks off to anyone.
 
BOHICA said:
I would rethink that, or at least look over cedeoudes59's logs. The way this cycle was run crashed his lipid profiles. I wouldn't recommend less than 4 weeks off to anyone.
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Thanks for the advice! I'll look into that. You say you wouldn't recommend more than 4 wks Off or On to anyone? so a 4wk on cycle, then at least 4 wks off? Those were my initial plans for the cycle...
 
BOHICA said:
I would say 3 weeks on, 4 weeks off (at-least), 3 weeks on, break for 2 months.
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I am with you on this one. After my first cycle of SD (5 weeks) I did not feel recovered nor do I believe I was recovered for over a month. I would say it was actually closer to 5 weeks. I used Nolva and Clomid for PCT, plus Vitrix. I believe SD is more suppresive than people think.
 
MacMan said:
I am with you on this one. After my first cycle of SD (5 weeks) I did not feel recovered nor do I believe I was recovered for over a month. I would say it was actually closer to 5 weeks. I used Nolva and Clomid for PCT, plus Vitrix. I believe SD is more suppresive than people think.
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I would put it partly on the SD and partly on the vitrix. I took that too for my PCT, and it supressed me even more. Once I got off it, everything libido/testicular wise jumped right back up to normal within like 3 days.
 
So you think the trib furthers shutdown? I think I remember reading some discussion of trib possibly being a bad idea b/c even though it stimulates test production it may be giving negative feedback at some earlier point and just ends up delaying the inevitable.

I did my first cycle in Sept of nordiol/4ad [edit: and I used Vitrix in PCT] and I was definitely shut down for a while, more than 4 weeks. I am one week into PCT from a light SD cycle and I don't feel like I was shut down at all. Libido is great, lethargy is non-existent, etc. Maybe trib is a bad idea during pct.
 
I'd like to hear if anyone else has feelings on the idea that trib might be a bad idea for PCT because (as opposed to stimulating test production) it prolongs the shut down. I have never heard that before, in fact, I've always heard the opposite.
 
yah after looking stuff up about trib and what is in vitrix, I found out that one of the products in it (thanks Dr. D) was used to help keep men abstinent, by lowering their test production back in the old days. From Dr. D in a pm "and be careful with the vitix and PCT. It actually promotes suppression. Monks used to take chasted berry to kill there sex drive, so they would not look upon women. So be careful, it suppresses LH and should really just be used for gyno related to cycles with progestins and the like."

So I dunno if its the trib, or something else in the vitrix, but I will never use it again for PCT.
 
BOHICA said:
I would put it partly on the SD and partly on the vitrix. I took that too for my PCT, and it supressed me even more. Once I got off it, everything libido/testicular wise jumped right back up to normal within like 3 days.
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I never really thought about it until just now, but I started to feel recovered when I quit taking the Vitrex. I didn't stop taking it for any reason, I just ran out.

There may be something to this. Good post!
 
smeton_yea said:
hey the man guy,


why are you doing
week 1 30mg ed
week2 30mg ed
week3 20mg ed

is that just your way off doing things, or is there scientic research behind doing
week 1 30mg ed
week2 30mg ed
week3 20mg ed ?
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It's just my way of doing things, because I feel like it!:lol:

No there's a reason offcourse as always.
The superdrol builds up in your system and it takes about a week to clear out completely, that's why you still feel like your
on the first week of pct, cos the compound has built up over time.

By starting out on 30mg the first 2 weeks I aim to saturate my body with superdrol by the end of week 2 and then just keep
levels constant with 20mg each day.

This way the superdrol will aslo clear out of my system faster after I stop, making my recovery easier and quicker.

That's the theory behind my maddness anyway. Make sense??:type:
 
Didn't train today.

I'll weigh in again tomorrow, but things seem to be going well.

I achieved a personal best yesterday and I'm very proud of myself.
I squatted 315lbs for 20 good solid reps.

It's staring to get cold here so I'll probly start eating more.
 
TheManGuy said:
It's just my way of doing things, because I feel like it!:lol:

No there's a reason offcourse as always.
The superdrol builds up in your system and it takes about a week to clear out completely, that's why you still feel like your
on the first week of pct, cos the compound has built up over time.

By starting out on 30mg the first 2 weeks I aim to saturate my body with superdrol by the end of week 2 and then just keep
levels constant with 20mg each day.

This way the superdrol will aslo clear out of my system faster after I stop, making my recovery easier and quicker.

That's the theory behind my maddness anyway. Make sense??:type:
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I think this is very good plan, it's what I've been doing too. 30/30/20 :)
 
TheManGuy said:
It's just my way of doing things, because I feel like it!:lol:

No there's a reason offcourse as always.
The superdrol builds up in your system and it takes about a week to clear out completely, that's why you still feel like your
on the first week of pct, cos the compound has built up over time.

By starting out on 30mg the first 2 weeks I aim to saturate my body with superdrol by the end of week 2 and then just keep
levels constant with 20mg each day.

This way the superdrol will aslo clear out of my system faster after I stop, making my recovery easier and quicker.

That's the theory behind my maddness anyway. Make sense??:type:
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yes. and it makes sense to start pct the day after the last superdrol dose was given.

therefore, if the superdrol stays in the system; then, shutdown will barely occur.
 
smeton_yea said:
yes. and it makes sense to start pct the day after the last superdrol dose was given.

therefore, if the superdrol stays in the system; then, shutdown will barely occur.
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Wouldn't it make sense to take a full week off after the SD cycle before starting PCT, so the SD can finish its job before wiping it out? That is what Dr. D suggested, that I run a buffer cycle with SD and DHEA. I ran the DHEA with my SD cycle of 3 weeks at 50mg a day to help the libido stay up and keep supression down. Then the 4th week ran 100mg of DHEA daily to help bring test levels back up while not pushing out SD. Then 5th week I started with Nolva and 250mg of DHEA. Then 6th week I ran DHEA at 100mg and 6-oxo. Worked wonders, when I compare my first SD cycle PCT wtih my second. Sides on cycle were minimal, and PCT off cycle swung back faster than imagined.
 
BOHICA said:
Wouldn't it make sense to take a full week off after the SD cycle before starting PCT, so the SD can finish its job before wiping it out? That is what Dr. D suggested, that I run a buffer cycle with SD and DHEA. I ran the DHEA with my SD cycle of 3 weeks at 50mg a day to help the libido stay up and keep supression down. Then the 4th week ran 100mg of DHEA daily to help bring test levels back up while not pushing out SD. Then 5th week I started with Nolva and 250mg of DHEA. Then 6th week I ran DHEA at 100mg and 6-oxo. Worked wonders, when I compare my first SD cycle PCT wtih my second. Sides on cycle were minimal, and PCT off cycle swung back faster than imagined.
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who else has run pct similar or exactly like this?

form all the reviews sides ive read i understand superdrol sdies are mild(much like a dose of mohn, which are mild or no have sides at all.)

btw how do i post an atavar?
 
re read the people who have run SD and gotten blood work done after. Their lipid profiles, went to the crapper. Also their libido went in the crapper. I'm trying to prevent mainly the second one by keeping my test levels elevated through the old man's way.. DHEA.
 
So you ran 50mg DHEA throughout your entire SD cycle? Then 100mg the week after, and all throughout your PCT as well?
 
50mg throughout my cycle, 100mg the week after my cycle to jumpstart my test levels again, then 250 mg while taking nolva and then 100mg again with 6-oxo.
 
BOHICA said:
50mg throughout my cycle, 100mg the week after my cycle to jumpstart my test levels again, then 250 mg while taking nolva and then 100mg again with 6-oxo.
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And you said that proved to be a great PCT protocol, right. I didn't do it like that. I did a simple 200mg daily starting the day after my last SD dose, and I have felt absolutely great. Only thing is I don't know if I should attribute the ease of PCT to the SD or the DHEA?

Based on something you posted before I got the sense that you had a bit of a tough time your first time coming off SD.
 
Beowulf said:
And you said that proved to be a great PCT protocol, right. I didn't do it like that. I did a simple 200mg daily starting the day after my last SD dose, and I have felt absolutely great. Only thing is I don't know if I should attribute the ease of PCT to the SD or the DHEA?

Based on something you posted before I got the sense that you had a bit of a tough time your first time coming off SD.
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Thats a tough one, I have run 2 cycles of SD. The first cycle I ran vitrix, DHEA, fenugreek and I did have a tough time coming off. Second cycle I ran nolva with my DHEA and just a weeks worth of 6-oxo and bounced back amazingly. I attribute most of the suppression from the first PCT though to vitrix and how any ph I take has always killed my libido.
 
My libido has never even been slightly down on superdrol.

Infact it's increases (substansially the last week).

I think after this cycle, I'm gonna take a 6 week break with pct the first 3 weeks, I'll try that dhea idea too. 250mg the first week then 200 the 2nd and 150 the third along with nolva, and maybe rebound and kala, if I can get them from our stupit customs!!

Then take 3 weeks off, then I'l do another 3 weeker then pct and then I'm gonna cut for 6 weeks.
 
Weight 238lbs up 7 pounds in 12 days

I'm staying lean, haven't gained any fat at all the last 2 weeks. Very happy with progress, hopefully I'll be 244 solid by the end of next week.

I'll have a body comp done and measurement taken next friday. Then we'll know the finer details.

I'll also compare my stats directly from before I started the first mini cycle 8 weeks ago.

Quite frankly though the strenth increases havn't been that amazing this cycle, nothing I couldn't have achieved naturally.
 
I have posted this in another SD log, can u see the gains in the size of ur muscle or is it something else. i would be worried after the cycle even after PCT that the muscle will disappear and ull keep the weight but with more fat. I have searched every log and nothing. By the way can't wait to start my SD
 
You will keep the size in your muscles... at least with my SD experiences. They seem to kinda flatten out though once on PCT. Still measure the same though they just dont look as full, at least to me they didnt.
 
BOHICA said:
You will keep the size in your muscles... at least with my SD experiences. They seem to kinda flatten out though once on PCT. Still measure the same though they just dont look as full, at least to me they didnt.
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Same for me, Bendoverhereitcomesagain. I did have libido problems on it at 10 mg for a 3 week cycle. Strength went through the roof while on, and I felt like I was still on nearly three weeks after coming off! Lifts kept going up. Anyone had an experience like that...I think I have a tendency to be a super responder to PHs...I noticed that using mdien, mohn, m1t, 1ad, 4ad, I was able to put on nice gains, but PCT never was on point and I lost a lot. I never did a lot on the dosages...I'm a firm believer of sticking to what works at its lowest levels and not trying to much above and beyond.
 
Bumbaclaat said:
Same for me, Bendoverhereitcomesagain. I did have libido problems on it at 10 mg for a 3 week cycle. Strength went through the roof while on, and I felt like I was still on nearly three weeks after coming off! Lifts kept going up. Anyone had an experience like that...I think I have a tendency to be a super responder to PHs...I noticed that using mdien, mohn, m1t, 1ad, 4ad, I was able to put on nice gains, but PCT never was on point and I lost a lot. I never did a lot on the dosages...I'm a firm believer of sticking to what works at its lowest levels and not trying to much above and beyond.
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You basically described my SD cycle lol, I actually did good on the PCt and my libido went to crap but strength went through the roof. It all caught back up, about 3 weeks after my cycle when I switched up my PCT.
 
Update.

Day 18 239lbs up 8 pounds.

I've leaned up a bit, so I might have gained more lbs than it looks like.
I'll have another body comp and bodyfat test done next friday.

Strenth is still climbing, but nothing out of the ordianry. I have been eating badly/little tha last few days and it seems to have leaned me out slightly, while keeping my weight constant.

I've modified the plan a bit.
I will make this cycle a 4 week one. So I will continue into next week at 20mg. Then that will be it for the moment.

After that I'll pct and take 2-3months totally off.

I prefer to gain consistently over 4 weeks. I didn't stop gaining last time, I simply stopped the cycle. So this time we'll see If I keep gaining in week 4.

I hope to break 242 by the end of next week, so I'll be eating alot the next 10 days or so.
 
Beowulf said:
And you said that proved to be a great PCT protocol, right. I didn't do it like that. I did a simple 200mg daily starting the day after my last SD dose, and I have felt absolutely great. Only thing is I don't know if I should attribute the ease of PCT to the SD or the DHEA?

Based on something you posted before I got the sense that you had a bit of a tough time your first time coming off SD.
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hey , did you do pct the day after, or did you wait a week after your last dose of superdrol?
 
Hi guys,

I've been following and learning alot from this thread.....thank you all.
I'd just like to ask about time preference of taking SD. When is best (better)?
I'm waiting for my shipment to arrive any moment and will be doing a 3-4-3-4 cycle then a good couple of months off. The PCT would be started the day after the last SD but at less than required dosage so the SD has some room to taper off (last week of SD will be at a lower dose also). The last week of PCT (heading back into SD) may either be quite low or none at all but am not sure yet.
Any criticism or help would be much appreciated.

Thanks
 
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