SUP3R DHEA Q&A

can oral vs td make difference as far as stomach issues?

For sure, but obviously symptoms like lightheadedness and nausea can be irrespective of route of admininistration. Sounds like drop in BP, which could occur regardless of how the offending compound got into circulation (oral, dermal, IM, etc).
 
For sure, but obviously symptoms like lightheadedness and nausea can be irrespective of route of admininistration. Sounds like drop in BP, which could occur regardless of how the offending compound got into circulation (oral, dermal, IM, etc).
ahhh thank u bro.
 
Thanks for all the feedback and insight. I just wanted to ask before I made the purchase. When I lowered the dose of wb2 the osthole worked great. I'm excited to try this out. I love OL products and this will be first venture into OL UK
 
Thanks for all the feedback and insight. I just wanted to ask before I made the purchase. When I lowered the dose of wb2 the osthole worked great. I'm excited to try this out. I love OL products and this will be first venture into OL UK

Yeah fair enough man, your caution is understandable.

Maybe our extract has less of the extra "fluff" from the plant, so our reccd dose is absolutely smaller than the the WB2 dose, whilst still being effectively potent. If you give it a shot obviously start conservatively.
 
For sure, but obviously symptoms like lightheadedness and nausea can be irrespective of route of admininistration. Sounds like drop in BP, which could occur regardless of how the offending compound got into circulation (oral, dermal, IM, etc).

Great insight here. Regarding lightheadedness, I would add that, beyond the potential differences in the purity of osthole extracts, white blood 2 contained L-Norvaline, Icariin, and Allicin, all of which can reduce blood pressure. As such, I'd be willing to bet that Sup3r DHEA is going to be far less likely to elicit hypotensive symptoms.
 
Well, day 12 of my Super DHEA, 1-andro, DermaFury, Origin, and Follidrone run. I'm now up 8 Lbs.! The Super DHEA has worked extremely well. At my age (55), DHEA and Pregnenolone are especially effective.

I have to say that I've never done either DHEA or Pregnenolone--too bad! The energy and mood enhancement are out of this world. I'm definitely getting testosterone conversion, and some estrogen conversion. In fact, I've added an OTC AI in order to control some of the estrogen conversion, as I suspect that some of my 8 Lb. weight gain is due to holding water from estrogen. This makes sense that I might get greater aromatization of the testosterone produced from the pregnenolone and DHEA, as I would naturally have higher aromatase enzyme levels than a younger person.

This feels very much like Test. It has completely taken care of the lethargy that I normally get from 1-andro; so much so, that I won't be using Epiandro anymore (as it bothers my prostate and raises my blood pressure, with little in the way of positive results). In fact, I have better energy now on DHEA/Pregnenolone and 1-andro, than I do off cycle!

The more I research Pregnenone, the more fascinating this hormone is: so many effects. One property of Pregnenolone is that it increases the quality of sleep IF TAKEN IN THE MORNING. It can be overlystimulating to some people if taken in too high a dose, or too late in the evening. I can definitely attest to a drastic improvement in sleep! Go research this stuff, you'll be amazed.

It will be especially effective for us older guys.

Crowbar
 
I'm thinking of running this along with EpiAndro and Sup3r-1. I weigh 200 now, but I want to try and cut down to 185. How many pumps will I need per day?
 
Well, day 12 of my Super DHEA, 1-andro, DermaFury, Origin, and Follidrone run. I'm now up 8 Lbs.! The Super DHEA has worked extremely well. At my age (55), DHEA and Pregnenolone are especially effective.

I have to say that I've never done either DHEA or Pregnenolone--too bad! The energy and mood enhancement are out of this world. I'm definitely getting testosterone conversion, and some estrogen conversion. In fact, I've added an OTC AI in order to control some of the estrogen conversion, as I suspect that some of my 8 Lb. weight gain is due to holding water from estrogen. This makes sense that I might get greater aromatization of the testosterone produced from the pregnenolone and DHEA, as I would naturally have higher aromatase enzyme levels than a younger person.

This feels very much like Test. It has completely taken care of the lethargy that I normally get from 1-andro; so much so, that I won't be using Epiandro anymore (as it bothers my prostate and raises my blood pressure, with little in the way of positive results). In fact, I have better energy now on DHEA/Pregnenolone and 1-andro, than I do off cycle!

The more I research Pregnenone, the more fascinating this hormone is: so many effects. One property of Pregnenolone is that it increases the quality of sleep IF TAKEN IN THE MORNING. It can be overlystimulating to some people if taken in too high a dose, or too late in the evening. I can definitely attest to a drastic improvement in sleep! Go research this stuff, you'll be amazed.

It will be especially effective for us older guys.

Crowbar

Just dosed my first. It's amazing. 2 pumps and I can feel the difference 10 minutes after.

I'm 257 and 1.5ml has been treating me well

Thanks for the feedback! You guys are making me want to start my run early. Planned to wait another 2 weeks, but the bottle is just sitting there, tempting me...we'll see how long I can hold out.
 
Thanks for the feedback! You guys are making me want to start my run early. Planned to wait another 2 weeks, but the bottle is just sitting there, tempting me...we'll see how long I can hold out.

Imagine watching it for four!?
It was murder. Murder I tell ya!

Now. It's just love. True. Love.
Until the next bottle comes. :)
 
Ok, my experience with Super DHEA so far:

1) This is day 11 on DHEA, day 15 of my cycle (Super DHEA, I-andro, DermaFury, Origin, Follidrone).

2) I started out at 2 ml. split into a morning and and evening dose--mistake! DHEA should be administered a single dose in the morning. DHEA, but more specifically pregnenolone, can be overly stimulating to some people if taken in the evening: it was for me.
Secondly, 2 ml. was too high of a dose for me at 205 Lbs.

3) at 2 ml. I got A LOT of estrogen from the aromatization of the testosterone being produced from the DHEA and pregnenolone. This makes sense, as I'm 55 yo and therefore have higher aromatase enzyme levels than someone younger than me. I also carry some abdominal fat, elevating aromatase levels further.

4) as an illustration of the estrogen conversion I was getting, I gained 8 Lbs. in 8 days after starting the DHEA and I was getting bad blood pressure spikes and hot flashes ! Within 4 days of starting an AI (Letrone @ 1 cap/day), I was back down 6 Lbs. !

5) DHEA and pregnenolone are FAR more powerful hormones that I had ever realized.

6) One side effect I don't care for, but is tolerable, are the headaches. These come on in the evening, and have been very consistent. It's a neck/base of the skull tightness and pain. Like I said though, tolerable. However, at 2 Ml. they were pretty bad. This is a common side effect of both DHEA, but more commonly pregnenolone.

Crowbar
 
Ok, my experience with Super DHEA so far:

1) This is day 11 on DHEA, day 15 of my cycle (Super DHEA, I-andro, DermaFury, Origin, Follidrone).

2) I started out at 2 ml. split into a morning and and evening dose--mistake! DHEA should be administered a single dose in the morning. DHEA, but more specifically pregnenolone, can be overly stimulating to some people if taken in the evening: it was for me.
Secondly, 2 ml. was too high of a dose for me at 205 Lbs.

3) at 2 ml. I got A LOT of estrogen from the aromatization of the testosterone being produced from the DHEA and pregnenolone. This makes sense, as I'm 55 yo and therefore have higher aromatase enzyme levels than someone younger than me. I also carry some abdominal fat, elevating aromatase levels further.

4) as an illustration of the estrogen conversion I was getting, I gained 8 Lbs. in 8 days after starting the DHEA and I was getting bad blood pressure spikes and hot flashes ! Within 4 days of starting an AI (Letrone @ 1 cap/day), I was back down 6 Lbs. !

5) DHEA and pregnenolone are FAR more powerful hormones that I had ever realized.

6) One side effect I don't care for, but is tolerable, are the headaches. These come on in the evening, and have been very consistent. It's a neck/base of the skull tightness and pain. Like I said though, tolerable. However, at 2 Ml. they were pretty bad. This is a common side effect of both DHEA, but more commonly pregnenolone.

Crowbar

All that after my accident with the syringe-gate. Lol.

Going to be trying 1 ml in the am.
Only!
 
I have to add the positives:

1) Incredable energy! The 1-andro isn't producing ANY of the lethargy it normally does. I wake up energized and ready to go; so much so, that I now skip morning coffee.

2) Sleep has been unbelievable: deep and refreshing! I slept 9 hours last night!

3) Incredible mood elevation

4) Likely other effects, but It's hard to sort those out as I'm using multiple compounds. So, the DHEA/pregenolone has, I'm sure, contributed to improved recovery, strength, etc.

5) Test. levels are definitely up, as my skin becomes very oily at times and I'm feeling a bit more aggresive and slightly irritable at times.

6) My sweet spot seems to be 1.5 Ml. @ 205 Lbs.

Crowbar
 
I have to add the positives:

1) Incredable energy! The 1-andro isn't producing ANY of the lethargy it normally does. I wake up energized and ready to go; so much so, that I now skip morning coffee.

2) Sleep has been unbelievable: deep and refreshing! I slept 9 hours last night!

3) Incredible mood elevation

4) Likely other effects, but It's hard to sort those out as I'm using multiple compounds. So, the DHEA/pregenolone has, I'm sure, contributed to improved recovery, strength, etc.

5) Test. levels are definitely up, as my skin becomes very oily at times and I'm feeling a bit more aggresive and slightly irritable at times.

6) My sweet spot seems to be 1.5 Ml. @ 205 Lbs.

Crowbar
great reviews
how about libido etc?
 
I am glad I spent the time and am glad you guys shared your post. I have been on LGD for the last 3 weeks at 8mg per day and just a week ago, added Sup3r DHEA. I was following the directions on the bottle and I have been applying 1 pump, twice daily for the last week. I have had minor headaches come and go, but blamed it on tension headaches. (possibly still could be).
I am going to taper it down to 1 application per day, in the morning, at 1.5ml being I am 195lbs and 46 year old.
 
Libido is up. Random wood. Early morning tent pitching and as long as I don't think about sex all glass doors and windows are safe. So are passers by.



This after three days.
 
I am glad I spent the time and am glad you guys shared your post. I have been on LGD for the last 3 weeks at 8mg per day and just a week ago, added Sup3r DHEA. I was following the directions on the bottle and I have been applying 1 pump, twice daily for the last week. I have had minor headaches come and go, but blamed it on tension headaches. (possibly still could be).
I am going to taper it down to 1 application per day, in the morning, at 1.5ml being I am 195lbs and 46 year old.
Aside from the headache, what else have you noticed from adding the dhea?
 
Energy levels are up in the gym. I have notice that I have more aggression.
My sleep lately, the best!!! Funny, I have noticed also that I would get the odd hot flash. But again, I was doing 1 full pump in the morning and 1 full pump after showering in the evening. Basically 4 ml in a 24 hour period. Again, I will be dropping it down to one 1.5-2ml application per day.
I am wanting to be careful with things. I still have minor gyno behind my left nipple. It is something that has come and gone since I was a kid. We also have history of enlarge prostate in our family. I have been taking 2 servings of OL Ar1macare Pro, 3 capsules a.m. and 3 capsules p.m..
I have at hand OL Dermatrest, OL DMZ and OL Transform. I have yet to used them and have decided against it. I always respond very well to SARMS and always keep my gains with them. I know OL Legend is not the mildest, but at my age, I don't think it would be as harsh. That is why I went that route, along with using Sup3r DHEA.
 
I am glad I spent the time and am glad you guys shared your post. I have been on LGD for the last 3 weeks at 8mg per day and just a week ago, added Sup3r DHEA. I was following the directions on the bottle and I have been applying 1 pump, twice daily for the last week. I have had minor headaches come and go, but blamed it on tension headaches. (possibly still could be).
I am going to taper it down to 1 application per day, in the morning, at 1.5ml being I am 195lbs and 46 year old.

Yes, it would be prudent to lower your dose. I won't rehash the details I've already posted, except to say that I got a lot of estrogen conversion from increased test levels. Us older guys do have naturally higher aromatase enzyme levels.

So, I decided to up my dose from 1.5 ml. to 2 ml. applied as a single morning dose, as I just started to notice a little what might be lethargy from the 1-andro kick in.
Headaches seem to have gone away.
Overall, energy is great as is my sleep! In fact, the improvement in sleep quality is stunning! libido has now started to increase, with random spontaneous wood.
Mood is through the roof!

P.S. for what it's worth, side effects do seem to happen when the dose is split and partly applied in the evening.

Crowbar
 
Is this product supposed to be kinda runny? Been using mine for a few days and it's nothing like the Super-11 and is very liquid like. It seems like it has the same issue with the carrier breaking up because it sort of has chunks in it like the Super-11 flakes or whatever. Also the plunger jammed this morning, had to take it apart and blow something out of the tube, guess a lot of the actives got stuck. Anyone know what the deal is?
 
Is this product supposed to be kinda runny? Been using mine for a few days and it's nothing like the Super-11 and is very liquid like. It seems like it has the same issue with the carrier breaking up because it sort of has chunks in it like the Super-11 flakes or whatever. Also the plunger jammed this morning, had to take it apart and blow something out of the tube, guess a lot of the actives got stuck. Anyone know what the deal is?
Yes, this is common of the consistency of the first production back. Feedback has been noted and sent in regarding improving the carrier. I've used it as well as many others with great feedback so it works regardless of the inconvenience but, we are still looking to improve upon it in the future.
 
Kind of: Not really a problem going, just like someone put a constrictor in the fuel line :D I've been "Natty" since Mid-May (end of PCT).

I have this problem on Yohimbine also. Pee is slow and weak and my sack can even become a bit drawn up/constricted. I always thought this is what others called "stim dic".
 
Just so we're clear, 1 full pump = 2mL, so this actually has ~200mg DHEA per pump, right? I'm planning on trying this out in the long future.
 
SUP3R DHEA Q&A

I picked up 3 bottles to run solo. Well actually I'll continue taking my FD2 also but I'm thinking a bottle should last me around 40 days so I'll have a good feel for this. I picked up a bottle of Letrone and will take one a day also.
 
I couldn't help myself so I decided to start on this product yesterday. I noticed as others mentioned how extremely thin the carrier is, but I've had no problems in application. I use nitrile gloves, as I have a 3 year old daughter and wife attempting to get pregnant, so getting this on anyone else in the house is an absolute no go. I've found a medicine dropper has worked great for measuring out the desired 1.0 ml in 2 divided doses, in order to avoid the product running off of my hands onto the floor. I'm a little older being 40 years old, so this should provide me a nice boost standalone for the next few weeks, until I start up a super 1/super 4 dhea cycle which I'll be running for 6 weeks. From the first 2 doses I've noticed a nice energy boost after each application thus far.
 
I couldn't help myself so I decided to start on this product yesterday. I noticed as others mentioned how extremely thin the carrier is, but I've had no problems in application. I use nitrile gloves, as I have a 3 year old daughter and wife attempting to get pregnant, so getting this on anyone else in the house is an absolute no go. I've found a medicine dropper has worked great for measuring out the desired 1.0 ml in 2 divided doses, in order to avoid the product running off of my hands onto the floor. I'm a little older being 40 years old, so this should provide me a nice boost standalone for the next few weeks, until I start up a super 1/super 4 dhea cycle which I'll be running for 6 weeks. From the first 2 doses I've noticed a nice energy boost after each application thus far.

Thanks for the feedback; I also noticed the immediate energy/stimulation boost upon application.

Looking forward to your thoughts as you get into it!
 
max silver

Do you have a log or could you keep us posted on how this goes? I just turned 40 myself and would like to follow as I am trying to decide between this or dermacrine for a test base during an upcoming cycle.
 
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Do you have a log or could you keep us posted on how this goes? I just turned 40 myself and would like to follow as I am trying to decide between this or dermacrine for a test base during an upcoming cycle.

I have no log going or plans to create one, but I can certainly post some updates from time to time in this thread to show how things are working out. I don't have much to report from the last time I posted here, I still get a nice energy bump in the morning. Now that I've had a chance to catch up on some much needed sleep over the weekend, I hope to be able to reduce my stimulant consumption, as it had been creeping up quite a bit over the last few weeks due to fatigue.

I do have some bad news to report, this has aggravated the area behind my left nipple, but this is not surprising to me in the slightest, as anything remotely anabolic, whether herbal or synthetic seems to have this effect for me. I had gyno surgery years ago, but there must be a bit of gland left behind, and for myself it's pretty easy to aggravate this area. I had already been using BLR Letrone at a low dose before starting up Sup3r-dhea, so I have upped the dose of it to 2 caps a day, as well as jumping on some low dose nolvadex. I'll almost certainly need to run the nolvadex at a low dose throughout the cycle to keep the nipple pain/sensitivity in check.
 
Anyone actually using this as a test base? Say for something like 1-DHEA or any other oral with known lethargy?
 
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