suggested supplement stack for gains

rodthebod

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just wondering if any experienced guys can suggest some products to look into that work! would these pro anabolic supplements have any effect on me? please don't tell me to eat more as i know that's what some of you are thinking! but any help at all is appreciated!
 
rodthebod said:
...please don't tell me to eat more as i know that's what some of you are thinking! but any help at all is appreciated!
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LOL, that's exactly what I was thinking (don't feel bad though I'm only 5'8/170, but was 150 about two years ago).

If you're dead set on using supplements then it really doesn't matter what we tell you. I would suggest researching some of the non-hormonal products like Powerfull, MassFX, Activate, Jungle Warfare, BAM, etc etc.

If you're still dead set on A A S/PS/PHs then have a look around and do some research on the products that are out...then come back and ask some more specific questions other than "what are some supps that work?"

I promise that I'm not trying to be an ass and I'll help you with what I can.
 
Actually I believe they all are in way or another...BUT, they use your body's natural production as opposed to adding horomones externally. Right? :thumbsup:
 
thank you for your reply stxnas! i actually have looked into a few of the ones you mentioned. i am interested in the non hormonal products and i was just looking at Jungle Warfare when i came across a disturbing thread about it on BB.com's forum. The actual thread was deleted but what i got from it was that a "specific" ingredient in it was not listed on the label or something like that. i don't want to get a big discussion started or anything but do you know anything about it? anyway i'm not really sure about the A A S/PS/PHs, i'll have to do some more research. thanks
 
I read something about that today. From what I gathered it's not that an ingredient isn't listed; apparently the ingredients in JW have changed a couple of times. It sounds like the websites and writeups have not been updated to reflect these changes...the end!

ALRI has two great reps here at AM that are always available when needed. Fit/Viper, you want to field this for us? <PM Sent>

EDIT: Here, check out this thread: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/l-r-i/63651-jungle-warfare-what.html
 
ok thank you. hey is taking creatine recommended when taking these non hormonal products you mentioned?
 
I honestly never thought about it. I know when using A.A.S./PHs it's not necessary, but I would say use it with these supps.
 
stxnas said:
I read something about that today. From what I gathered it's not that an ingredient isn't listed; apparently the ingredients in JW have changed a couple of times. It sounds like the websites and writeups have not been updated to reflect these changes...the end!

ALRI has two great reps here at AM that are always available when needed. Fit/Viper, you want to field this for us? <PM Sent>

EDIT: Here, check out this thread: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/l-r-i/63651-jungle-warfare-what.html
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Exactly, the website has not been updated, and is in the process. Our art work guy is not available right now but I have put in a request. The ingredients on the bottle are whats in that bottle. The area of issue is people want to know why they cannot find any info on ADED, ALR created that compound and has a patent pending, ALR IND does not want to give out specifics because people copy our products every chance they get :( So that is why there is an issue. The ingredients changed back in july 2006 because of headache related issues and nothing else. There may still be some bottles floating around with the changed compound from stores who did not sell as much volume though. The product is safe, and not liver toxic.
 
FitnFirm said:
Exactly, the website has not been updated, and is in the process. Our art work guy is not available right now but I have put in a request. The ingredients on the bottle are whats in that bottle. The area of issue is people want to know why they cannot find any info on ADED, ALR created that compound and has a patent pending, ALR IND does not want to give out specifics because people copy our products every chance they get :( So that is why there is an issue. The ingredients changed back in july 2006 because of headache related issues and nothing else. There may still be some bottles floating around with the changed compound from stores who did not sell as much volume though. The product is safe, and not liver toxic.
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...so what you are saying is that JW is NEW & IMPROVED, but all of the media is a little behind in reflecting this...thanks for the clarification Fit!
Good Night,
STX
 
right now I'm trying thermolife e-bol...i'll keep you posted on the results, so far It's gotten mixed reviews on most boards...

I'd recommend a good Creatine, like Gaspari Size On (is my favorite) OR Designer Supps Xceed (i think that's the name)

or I heard JW/BAM is a good stack...
 
yeah i'm looking into Gaspari Size On right now. i've been taking cell mass for the past couple of weeks and so far i've been disappointed but we'll see after i finish the bottle. thanks
 
sorry to double post but i want to try a new protein as well. i'm thinking about AST's VP2, Beverly's Muscle Provider, or Ergopharm's GF Pro. what do you guys think?
 
of your choices listed i like the gf pro, i use the blueberry and find it replaces my immune stimulating supps cause it pretty much has those ingredients contained within
 
I urge you to check out the evolution stack by ALRI. I'm somewhat "experienced" in the running of cycles (Hormonal and Non), and am currently getting killer results from the stack. But whatever you do make sure you eat more food LOL.
 
thanks emiliozapata, blueberry sounds super tasty. and Beige i'm very interested in the evo stack although i've never tried cycling anything before really. i've just used whey, creatine, and food (which i will eat more of!) i might just have to try that stack, i don't think it's a bad price either.
 
AX Mass Fx, Hyperdrol 2, and Retain 2... BADASS STACK!!!! Good, clean, lean gains. THe awsome part of the more natural stacks is the no PCT, estrogen problems. Check it out man!!
 
Well what supplements are you currently taking? What's your goals?


Assuming you don't have the basics just to be safe I would suggest a multi-vitamin, a bulk whey (Optimum or Dymatize), and a basic creatine monohydrate (micronized preferably). With these you can see some good gains. The creatine will obviously help with water saturation in your muscles helping with some size and strength, although you will see peak results relatively quickly. Once that occurs you may want to look into some of these other non-hormonal stacks people are mentioning. You will be better off adding one new supplement at a time so you can easily determine how much you benefit from each. When you add a whole arsenal of supplements is when your results are easily skewed and mistaken.
 
currently taking multivitamin, CLA, fish oil, cellmass, and Optimum Whey. i just wanna gain 10-15 pounds (or more) of lean muscle. i've been hovering around 150 since i can remember. thanks for the advice DaveGabe.
 
rodthebod said:
currently taking multivitamin, CLA, fish oil, cellmass, and Optimum Whey. i just wanna gain 10-15 pounds (or more) of lean muscle. i've been hovering around 150 since i can remember. thanks for the advice DaveGabe.
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Yeah I was around 163 the first week of January. Weighed in at 179 this month, just sticking to the basics. Once in a while I do get bored with a creatine mono. I also did two bottles of E-BOl which I loved. Not so much for mass gains but more strength / lean muscle gains. I think you know enough to realize what it's going to come down to when you need to put on weight. However when you do reach a tougher plateau...you are 22 years old, so the non-hormonals (even possibly some hormonal if you're into that, I personally don't find them necessary) would be great additions for you.
 
rodthebod said:
sorry to double post but i want to try a new protein as well. i'm thinking about AST's VP2, Beverly's Muscle Provider, or Ergopharm's GF Pro. what do you guys think?
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BSN Syntha-6, Dymatize Elite Whey, and XF Ultra Peptide are my favorites...
 
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