Subweevil's Tore Up From the Floor Up log odf DTH/Sunami

[subweevil]

Workout #7
Shoulders/Traps

No DTH/Sunami today

Seated Hammer Strength Military Press (weight is lowered until m upper arms are parallel with the floor, more tension placed on middle delts.) Weight is per side, although this move was not performed unilaterally.
145x6 1 min. rest, 125x8, 1 min rest, 105x10, 1 min. rest, 85x12, 1 min. rest
These felt tough, had a hard time getting up the weight, a definite sign that my job is beginning to affect my lifting, as my shoulders have been getting pounded along with my back, which is sad, because I really want to build my shoulders/traps.
3 minutes moderate cardio.

Standing Barbell Shrugs To The Front
315x6 1 min. rest, 285x8, 1 min. rest, 265x10, 1 min. rest, 245x12 1 min. rest.
These were also tough to get going on, despite being motivated. I want big traps, but it’s gonna be hard getting that goal with my new job apparently. Lots of lifting heavy things way overhead, or bending over to pick up heavy things.
3 minutes moderate cardio.

Military Press Machine (cable) Full range of motion
210x6 1 min. rest, 180x8, 1 min. rest, 150x10, 1 min. rest, 130x12, 1 min. rest
Okay, to clarify, this machine uses a double pulley set-up, so no, I’m not that strong, I wish!!
3 minutes moderate cardio.

Standing Barbell Shrugs To The Back
335x6, 1 min. rest, 315x8, 1 min. rest, 285x10, 1 min. rest, 265x12, 1 min. rest
These were easier, I’m always stronger on these regardless of when I perform them. I get decnt range of motion with them, when my fat butt isn’t getting in the way.
3 minutes moderate cardio.

Looked outside, saw how nuts town is getting (State College, PA., homecoming weekend), talk to a few regulars about how many problems there will be tonight (hopefully none).

10 minutes HIIT cardio.

Workout Notes

Shoulder workouts along with back ones have definitely gotten harder since starting my new job, even though I’ve been there for a little over a month. People there just laugh when I tell them I’ve gotta work out, since the running joke is I’m already getting paid to work out. Especially my front delts, they are getting thrashed, should be a real joy when the second part of my workout hits, which is isolation type moves. Didn’t get quite as good a pump today, took 1.5 scoops of JP8 since I’m not using DTH/Sunami today. Recovery was still good, though.

Other Notes
Not much to report here, feel pretty much the same as when I was on the stack, which is cool. Everything is still a touch bit elevated, no worries there. Goes with the territory. Tomorrow, I will be starting a stack that Chuck recommends, you can check it out here: Invalid Link Removed
Not sure how I will react to it, since 2 each per day definitely did it for me, and 2 DTH had me getting pretty aggressive towards the end there (6 days), wanting to rip faces off. Okay, comparison time, and I’m being totally fair here, and I mean no disrespect to any companies, reps or owners here, just stating the facts. I said I wanted to compare this stack to the Activate Extreme/Lean Extreme stack, so here goes. This stack has had more immediate results than the AX/LX stack, which took about 2 weeks to kick in. Both made me lethargic, the AX/LX did it after the first week, this stack did it in less time around day 4, and both cases felt the same. This stack makes me hungry now, as opposed to the AX/LX stack, which bumped my appetite after week 2 big time. Lost weight on that stack for the first 2 weeks as well, but in all fairness, there are more ingredients geared towards that in the AX/ LX stack than this one, so that’s not a fair comparison, but I just wanted to state results. This stack definitely ahs the mood advantage, although, there are ingredients in this stack which contribute more towards that than the AX/LX stack, so again, that could be viewed as unfair, but I’m just stating results here. DTH/ Sunami also gets the nod in the Alpha Male feeling department, never experienced that on the AX/LX stack. DTH/Sunami also appears to be more cost effective, when you factor in that I don’t think I need more than 3DTH/2Sunami per day, versus 6AX/3LX per day, plus, DTH/Sunami makes all my preworkout and other supps perform way better with a lower dose. Now, I did only take 4AX/2LX per day, but if I had it to do again, I would do the above. I would like to say that this stack is my preferred one, so far, the results speak for themselves. I feel this stack would be even more nuts if I added Lean Extreme to it as well, I feel that honestly nothing would even come close, and that it would offer the best option for lean bulking, but that’s just my opinion. I respond very well to forskolin, which is in Lean Extreme. In no way am I knocking either company, just plainly stating the facts here. Both got/are getting me results, just this stack is getting me there faster in addition to the above mentioned points. I have no problems currently recommending this stack over the AX/LX stack, but I also have no problems recommending the AX/LX stack for someone that doesn’t need the above benefits from the DTH/Sunami stack, so take it for what it’s worth. With the new dosing schedule, not sure how I will respond, worried that I might feel too aggressive, if that’s possible for me. As long as I don’t get asked any stupid questions like “Where is the ANY key” or “Is this service free?” I should be okay. My favorite is when someone turns off the anti-virus because it makes their computer “Slow”, then they catch a virus and it runs slow anyways, if it even runs at all. How’s that workin out for ya chief? Anyways, wish me luck, and the Penn State football team is well, I think we just might take Michigan this time!!

 

[subweevil]

Alrighty, woke up (got to sleep in today!) at 6 A.M. and took my first dose of DTH for the day, now just 2 more to go!! Seems to be kickin in nicely, already motivated for Penn State to crush Michigan today,as I'm sure the rest of the town is too. Cardio day today, then tomorrow it's day 2 of chest with isolation moves and higher reps. Take care guys, update around 8 tonight, all the best 'til then!!

 

[Chuck Diesel]

penn state is good, I remember in the 90's they were destroying the big 10. U of I is good this year.

on the stack jut run it for me a week to see how u respond at rec, dosage. if its 2 strong reduce the dth and/or sunami by one tab/day. I use to be a network admin in a hospital so I know what u mean. "oh my computer is broke come check it out," get there and they can't get on the internet, computer works fine but no internet means broke computer.

 

[subweevil]

on the stack jut run it for me a week to see how u respond at rec, dosage. if its 2 strong reduce the dth and/or sunami by one tab/day.

Alrighty man, we'll do. Schedule looks like I shouldn't start Sunami 'til day 11, correct? Already got my first dose of DTH this morning, only took 1, that's all I really feel I need instead of the 2, based on the the prior days. Will do the 3 per day though, wow, that will be intense. This stuff is damn strong. Thanks as usual Chuck!! Gonna be watching something though with a bit more contact and necessary roughness tonight, UFC 89!! Take care guys, back in a few. Oh., almost forgot. On a side note Chuck, how's the new NOS Ether looking? I would like to grab some when it comes out, keep me posted. It's kinda funny, owning my own business I tend to cherry pick companies 'cuz not everything they make is good, usually they have one claim ot fame and the rest of the stuff is anywhere from okay, to blah. Haveto admit though, everything I've tried so far that you've put out hits a homerun, and then some. Stacking is great when it actually works, not just to sell more stuff, and you deliver on this again, it kinda cracks me up.

 

[Chuck Diesel]

Alrighty man, we'll do. Schedule looks like I shouldn't start Sunami 'til day 11, correct? Already got my first dose of DTH this morning, only took 1, that's all I really feel I need instead of the 2, based on the the prior days. Will do the 3 per day though, wow, that will be intense. This stuff is damn strong. Thanks as usual Chuck!! Gonna be watching something though with a bit more contact and necessary roughness tonight, UFC 89!! Take care guys, back in a few. Oh., almost forgot. On a side note Chuck, how's the new NOS Ether looking? I would like to grab some when it comes out, keep me posted. It's kinda funny, owning my own business I tend to cherry pick companies 'cuz not everything they make is good, usually they have one claim ot fame and the rest of the stuff is anywhere from okay, to blah. Haveto admit though, everything I've tried so far that you've put out hits a homerun, and then some. Stacking is great when it actually works, not just to sell more stuff, and you deliver on this again, it kinda cracks me up.

Imma tell you this staight up. The new NOS ETHER taste sour, not like herbs. It gives me pumps so strong my tri's hurt and get cramps. I actually only take 1 scoop pre and post workout and 1/2 2x a day on non-workout days. Thats 1/2 the rec. dosage for my size. Also last night I benched"

135 10x
225 6x
285 4x
315 4x
385 3x
405 1.5x

and it was the first time I went up to 405 after doing 385 more than 1x. So it can be the DTH also because this new DTH gives some strong pumps also, but Im only on 2 DTH pills a day. NP has the new NOS ETHER. All the new info on the new NOS ETHER is at getdiesel.com. It only uses kre-alk as its creatine and has 50% more beta-alanine and a sht load of cit. malate per serving, over 5g per serving. Im not playing around anymore. A while back there was a thread comparing NOS ETHER to Ragnoarok at bb.com and I didnt like that. I want my stuff light years ahead of everything else, Im not happy with some people liking my stuff better and some neutral.

 

[Inarius]

Imma tell you this staight up. The new NOS ETHER taste sour, not like herbs. It gives me pumps so strong my tri's hurt and get cramps. I actually only take 1 scoop pre and post workout and 1/2 2x a day on non-workout days. Thats 1/2 the rec. dosage for my size. Also last night I benched"

135 10x
225 6x
285 4x
315 4x
385 3x
405 1.5x

and it was the first time I went up to 405 after doing 385 more than 1x. So it can be the DTH also because this new DTH gives some strong pumps also, but Im only on 2 DTH pills a day. NP has the new NOS ETHER. All the new info on the new NOS ETHER is at getdiesel.com. It only uses kre-alk as its creatine and has 50% more beta-alanine and a sht load of cit. malate per serving, over 5g per serving. Im not playing around anymore. A while back there was a thread comparing NOS ETHER to Ragnoarok at bb.com and I didnt like that. I want my stuff light years ahead of everything else, Im not happy with some people liking my stuff better and some neutral.

Nice lifts bud!:box::box:

 

[subweevil]

WOW, yeah, solid lifts bud!! I'm going to have to get the new NOS Ether, but after I log this stuff, as I do want to take it, but can't because I feel it will affect the stack, otherwise, I'd be getting card burn from chargin it so fast!! Thanks Chuck, and everyone else for your ongoing support, cardio update coming.

 

[subweevil]

Workout #8
DTH 1,1,1
Cardio

Did 10 minutes HIIT, then 10 minutes steady state cardio after stretching and warming up. Felt good, but I didn’t have time to get in another 20 minutes. Was sweating like a sweat hog though.

Notes

Day back on, after yesterday off both DTH/Sunami. Went with the schedule posted earlier in my log of 3DTH today, and man…. Let me tell ya, full on aggression. I really want to rip faces off, and have very little tolerance for crap,period. Great energy, still want to dig a ditch around the world, with aggression to spare. It’s gonna be fun in town tonight, homecoming at Penn State and the football team could beat Michigan, lots of idiots will be running around, can’t wait when I have to go into town to pick up the little lady. Got a good pump form the cardio to!! Well, that’s it for tonight, nothing too exciting about cardio, take care guys, and thanks for watching!!

 

[1HP]

Workout #8
DTH 1,1,1
Notes

Day back on, after yesterday off both DTH/Sunami. Went with the schedule posted earlier in my log of 3DTH today, and man…. Let me tell ya, full on aggression. I really want to rip faces off, and have very little tolerance for crap,period. Great energy, still want to dig a ditch around the world, with aggression to spare. It’s gonna be fun in town tonight,

Funny isn't it. Seems you sort off respond the same way as I do mood wise. The DTHC makes you aggressive, the Sunami puts you in a happy relaxed, "it's a beautiful day" mood.

I'm gonna take some time figuring out what combination of these I like best.. Might even order some DT2010 to expand my options :fool2:

 

[Chuck Diesel]

Funny isn't it. Seems you sort off respond the same way as I do mood wise. The DTHC makes you aggressive, the Sunami puts you in a happy relaxed, "it's a beautiful day" mood.

I'm gonna take some time figuring out what combination of these I like best.. Might even order some DT2010 to expand my options :fool2:

Try 2DTH am/1 sumami am, 1 DTH mid-day/1 sunami mid-day and 1 DTH early PM going off what you posted in your log.

 

[1HP]

Try 2DTH am/1 sumami am, 1 DTH mid-day/1 sunami mid-day and 1 DTH early PM going off what you posted in your log.

Thanks! Will try that! I do really look a lot leaner and bigger. Down 4 lbs in 10 days (I guess water) and got good strength gains so far. I do have to shave every friggin day now which kinda sucks

 

[Chuck Diesel]

Thanks! Will try that! I do really look a lot leaner and bigger. Down 4 lbs in 10 days (I guess water) and got good strength gains so far. I do have to shave every friggin day now which kinda sucks

yeah dth makes ur beard grow like weeds.

 

[subweevil]

Try 2DTH am/1 sumami am, 1 DTH mid-day/1 sunami mid-day and 1 DTH early PM going off what you posted in your log.

Cool, will do, thanks Chuck for the input, and you too 1HP!! Great support here on these forums!!

Funny isn't it. Seems you sort off respond the same way as I do mood wise. The DTHC makes you aggressive, the Sunami puts you in a happy relaxed, "it's a beautiful day" mood.

Yeah, it is!! Makes sense though. This stack is awesome, and is really worth the tinkering to get it zeroed in, and even when it's not zeroed in, the gains and mood still come right along, simply awesome.

 

[subweevil]

Workout #9

DTH1/1/1

2nd Chest Workout, semi-isolation, isolation, higher reps

Incline Dumbell Bench Press (45 degrees)
70x10, 1 min. rest, 60x10, 1 min. rest, 50x10, 1 min. rest, 40x10.
3 minutes moderate cardio

Flat Bench Dumbell Press (Flat)
70x10, 1min. rest, 60x10, 1 min. rest, 50x10, 1 min. rest, 40x10.
3 minutes cardio

Incline Cable Flyes (2 sets 45 degrees, 2 sets 30 degrees)
25x10, 1 min rest, 20x10, 1 min. rest, 25x10, 1 min. rest, 20x10.
3 minutes moderate cardio

Flat Cable Flyes
30x10, 1 min. rest, 25x10, 1 min. rest, 25x10, 1 min. rest, 20x10
3 minutes moderate cardio

Workout Notes

Everything felt well, got a great pump from the above workout. When I do this workout phase of a body part 2 times in a week, the first time is usually a compound workout and the next is usually semi-isolation, and isolation. When I do the second workout, I like to go slower and really squeeze and feel the muscles working above all else, and try to get a good pump and muscle flush. Got that all today, so, guess that makes it a good workout. Felt pretty effortless.

Other notes

Going to go with the schedule Chuck was kind enough to send my way today, of: Try 2DTH am/1 sumami am, 1 DTH mid-day/1 sunami mid-day and 1 DTH early PM going off what you posted in your log. We’ll see how this works, 4 might be kinda rough, as 3 has me ready to bust heads, this stuff is for real. If you work a retail job, or a customer service job, DTH might not be the best choice for longevity in the workplace, lol, just kidding. My fuse is definitely way shorter now, but it just takes self control. Later guys!!

 

[1HP]

Cool, will do, thanks Chuck for the input, and you too 1HP!! Great support here on these forums!!



Yeah, it is!! Makes sense though. This stack is awesome, and is really worth the tinkering to get it zeroed in, and even when it's not zeroed in, the gains and mood still come right along, simply awesome.

Hmm I'm not sure now if Chuck recommended dosing like that for you, me or both of us haha, he quoted my post

 

[subweevil]

Sorry man, gave it a whirl anyways, more aggression this time around, still awesome recovery from any kinda work.

 

[Chuck Diesel]

Other notes

Going to go with the schedule Chuck was kind enough to send my way today, of: Try 2DTH am/1 sumami am, 1 DTH mid-day/1 sunami mid-day and 1 DTH early PM going off what you posted in your log. We’ll see how this works, 4 might be kinda rough, as 3 has me ready to bust heads, this stuff is for real. If you work a retail job, or a customer service job, DTH might not be the best choice for longevity in the workplace, lol, just kidding. My fuse is definitely way shorter now, but it just takes self control. Later guys!!

U can try that or stay at ur current dosing it depends on the person. If u run 4 DTH/day for a few days and the aggression side is 2 much and libido goes down, then go back down to 3/day. Esp with 2/3 Sunami most people dont need over 3/4 DTH day. Im scared of DTH right now. It intimidates me. Im on 2/day....because for me, when the aggression and libido kicks into over drive, it doesnt come down for any reason at least for 2 days, even if Im off both products for 2 days.

 

[subweevil]

Yessir, this stuff is wicked potent. I'd like to try and stick with just 3DTH per day, I was getting amazing results with just 2 DTH per day, and 2 Sunami per day. I might only go with 3 DTH per day, and 1 Sunami mid-day, time will tell. Just gotta keep trying it and see what works best. Crazy thing is, everything works well right now, and it's not even zeroes in yet. Thanks for all the help man!!

 

[subweevil]

Workout #10
DTH=2/1/1, morning, mid-day, evening.
Sunami=1/1, morning, mid-day.

Back, semi-isolation, isolation, higher reps.

Lat Wide Grip Pull Down (alternate front and behind head)
180x10, 1 min. rest, 180x10, 1 min. rest, 170x10, 1 min. rest, 170x10.
3 minutes moderate cardio.

Close Hammer Grip Cable Lat Pull Down
170x10, 1 min. rest, 170x10, 1 min. rest, 150x10, 1 min. rest, 150x10.
3 minutes moderate cardio.

Straight Arm Cable Lat Press Down
80x10, 1 min. rest, 80x10, 1 min. rest, 70x10, 1 min rest, 65x10
3 minutes cardio

Don’t-know- what-to-call –these ( I grasp a double-ended rope, attached to a cable machine for seated rows, extend my arms all the way forward, grasp the rope, and only retract/flex my lats to move the weight a few inches, feels great whatever you guys call it.
80x10, 1 min. rest, 80x10, 1 min. rest, 80x10, 1 min. rest, 60x10
3 minutes moderate cardio

Workout notes

This was easy today, recovery was great!! Not that it was easy, but this stack really helps me drive through the workouts, and the 2nd workouts in this phase are much easier to me than the1st workout of this phase. Got a good pump, felt really in charge, quite nice. I can do the same amount of weight longer, before I have to drop the weight, and that’s a good thing.

Other Notes

Changed my dosing today, man, I tore through my morning, just couldn’t seem to get tired or brought done by anything!! Second dose of both DTH/Sunami found me a bit lethargic, and third dose of DTH found me back up to ready to take on the world. With everyone’s input, I’m sure I’ll get this zeroes in real soon. Looks like 3 DTH and perhaps1 or 2 sunami, with the mid day dose being just DTH. This stuff has definitely got my libido into overdrive, and my workouts. I don’t wantto leave the gym, or the bedroom, or whatever room my chick happens to be in!! Skin is definitely more oily on my nose, not so much my forehead. Scale says I’ve now officially gained a pound, but where it is, I can’t tell (Diesel Balls?). Recovery continues to be excellent, breathing is still easier, though it tapers off gradually as the dose wears off, it’s more pronounced when I take both DTH/Sunami. This stuff continues to amplify the effects of JP8 and I’m still drinking more water than usual. Not much else to report. Take care!!

 

[ari4216]

Imma tell you this staight up. The new NOS ETHER taste sour, not like herbs. It gives me pumps so strong my tri's hurt and get cramps. I actually only take 1 scoop pre and post workout and 1/2 2x a day on non-workout days. Thats 1/2 the rec. dosage for my size. Also last night I benched"

135 10x
225 6x
285 4x
315 4x
385 3x
405 1.5x

and it was the first time I went up to 405 after doing 385 more than 1x. So it can be the DTH also because this new DTH gives some strong pumps also, but Im only on 2 DTH pills a day. NP has the new NOS ETHER. All the new info on the new NOS ETHER is at getdiesel.com. It only uses kre-alk as its creatine and has 50% more beta-alanine and a sht load of cit. malate per serving, over 5g per serving. Im not playing around anymore. A while back there was a thread comparing NOS ETHER to Ragnoarok at bb.com and I didnt like that. I want my stuff light years ahead of everything else, Im not happy with some people liking my stuff better and some neutral.

good to hear i order the new NOS ether on sunday

 

[1HP]

good to hear i order the new NOS ether on sunday

Hmm also tempting, considering adding JP8 & Ether myself..

How does the JP-8 taste subweevil?

 

[Kristofer68SS]

Hmm also tempting, considering adding JP8 & Ether myself..

How does the JP-8 taste subweevil?

We dont buy it for the taste.......lol

2 tubs of Ether in transit........

 

[subweevil]

good to hear i order the new NOS ether on sunday

Cool!! You'll have to let me kindly know how it works out for you, since I can't take it while logging this stack, but man, I wish!! It looks and sounds sick. Everything I've tried from Get Diesel has performed above my expectations, once I got it zeroed in. Even when it wasn't zeroed in, it was still working better than most, but once you figure out exactly how much to dose, how, and when, BAM!! it's on. I think this is a mistake a lot of people make, not just with this product, but most. With Chuck's and Tripdog's support though, it's a lot easier to get where you need to be faster than just trial and error. A company can make great products, but have horrible support, not so here with Get Diesel, which for me, cinches where my money goes. I'm one of the few people who service matters to, and am very loyal to those who work with me to get what I want/need in a timely, friendly and knowledgeable manner. I'm just pleasantly surprised that I haven't found a bad product yet from Get Diesel, usually every line has a few stinkers, but it's very refreshing to not have to worry about it, kinda a throwback. I have my own business, and I frequently have to "Cherry Pick" items form companies because although they may make a great motherboard, their monitors blow goat balls.

Hmm also tempting, considering adding JP8 & Ether myself..

How does the JP-8 taste subweevil?

Hmmm, taste that's a good one. Let's be honest, we aren't buying it for the taste. I will say that I have gotten used to it, which was greatly helped by the results of using it. Now, it doesn't even bother me, in fact, in an odd way, I look forward to the taste. The taste lets you know there isn't any crap in there, and that's simply awesome in my book. I try to avoid as much artificial crap as I can, and this is a no brainer. I would describe it as an herbal taste, I can taste a bit of ginger(which I love, especially with sushi!!) and the rosemary, among other things. Lol, I honestly can't taste the lemon. the rsults for this happened when I upped my dose by 1/2 scoop, then wow, you wanna talk about focused!! It's not a stimmed-out-I-can't- do-anything-too twtichy kinda thing, it just really puts me in the zone, then after about 15 minutes of working out, the endurance part of it kicks in for me. I take my dose on an empty stomach about between 10-20 pre-workout. As an added bonus, since starting this stack, I have been able to use just 1 scoop and get the same results!! Good, luck, and keep me posted bud!!

 

[subweevil]

I'm so damn stoked for the NOS Ether. Let's see, DTH, Sunami, JP8 and NOS Ether. Dear God, that would be straight up nuts, or perfect for the rest of us,lol.

 

[1HP]

LOL what is it with you and goats hahaha

 

[Chuck Diesel]

We dont buy it for the taste.......lol

2 tubs of Ether in transit........

good to hear i order the new NOS ether on sunday

Ok for sure let me know how you guys like the new NOS ETHER. Its sick (not the the other versions werent sick...look at the feedback at NP) but this one is sick....er.

 

[subweevil]

Cool, can't wait to add it to my arsenal of workout goodies, but guess I will have to. Once I'm done with this log though, it's on.

LOL what is it with you and goats hahaha

You got a problem with goats, goats have feelings to ya know,lol!!

 

[subweevil]

Acne is on the increase, but on a good note, whatever takes the eyes off the nose works for me,lol. Back to being a bit fidgety today, glad I keep a punching bag near my computer, not so much for this, but for those computer games that "Cheat". Beats busting a keyboard, mouse, or monitor, especially now, unless they're a friends keyboard,mouse or monitor, then it's okay.

 

[1HP]

Acne is on the increase, but on a good note, whatever takes the eyes off the nose works for me,lol. Back to being a bit fidgety today, glad I keep a punching bag near my computer, not so much for this, but for those computer games that "Cheat". Beats busting a keyboard, mouse, or monitor, especially now, unless they're a friends keyboard,mouse or monitor, then it's okay.

Next up: How to lose your friends in 10 days, sponsored by Get Diesel :hammer:

 

[subweevil]

Next up: How to lose your friends in 10 days, sponsored by Get Diesel

Haha, nice!! My one buddy has a shirt he wears when sparring, it reads: "F*** you, I have enough friends." The fact that the shirt is neon pink only adds to the amusement. He's actually a nice guy, when he's not beating on me.

 

[1HP]

Haha, nice!! My one buddy has a shirt he wears when sparring, it reads: "F*** you, I have enough friends." The fact that the shirt is neon pink only adds to the amusement. He's actually a nice guy, when he's not beating on me.

Well I understand why he would be beating on you after you wrecking his keyboard lol

 

[ari4216]

I'm so damn stoked for the NOS Ether. Let's see, DTH, Sunami, JP8 and NOS Ether. Dear God, that would be straight up nuts, or perfect for the rest of us,lol.

hell yeah, ill probally do that next time arounds, but for now im taking a break from stims, so no Jp8

 

[subweevil]

Well I understand why he would be beating on you after you wrecking his keyboard lol

Haha.

hell yeah, ill probally do that next time arounds, but for now im taking a break from stims, so no Jp8

Hey man, you try JP8 yet? That stuff rocks!! It took me a few goes to get it right, but man, the focus!! This stack makes it super awesome, I only need 1 scoop now, instead of 1.5. It is a good idea to take a break from stims, or other things for that matter. I can't wait to try the new NOS Ether!!

 

[1HP]

Haha.

hell yeah, ill probally do that next time arounds, but for now im taking a break from stims, so no Jp8

Hey man, you try JP8 yet? That stuff rocks!! It took me a few goes to get it right, but man, the focus!! This stack makes it super awesome, I only need 1 scoop now, instead of 1.5. It is a good idea to take a break from stims, or other things for that matter. I can't wait to try the new NOS Ether!!

It's sitting in my cart

 

[subweevil]

Man, you'r gonna love it!! With this stack, it's really nuts!

 

[Kristofer68SS]

Ok for sure let me know how you guys like the new NOS ETHER. Its sick (not the the other versions werent sick...look at the feedback at NP) but this one is sick....er.

Will do chuck.

Like i have stated many times. I am starting 3 kings friday, Now, Ether as soon as it gets here.....I doubt it gets here by then, we shall see.

I cant wait...... :woohoo::dance:

So.........it will be
3 kings
JP8 and
NOS ETHER

flippin sweet.........

 

[subweevil]

That will be a most awesome stack!! Pretty sure that's my new baby come end of this workout cycle.

 

[subweevil]

Workout #11
DTH 1/1/1, morning, mid-day, evening.
Sunami 1/0/1, morning, evening.

Shoulders/traps, semi-isolation, isolation, higher reps

Dumbell Shoulder Presses
70x10, 1 min. rest, 60x10, 1 min. rest, 50x10, 1 min. rest, 50x10, 1 min. rest
3 minutes moderate cardio.

Cable side Laterals (2 in front, 2 behind)single pulley, done very slowly.
20x10, 1 min. rest, 10x10, 1 min. rest, 20x10, 1 min. rest, 10x10
3 minutes moderate cardio.

Reverse Pec Deck (Double pulley, drop sets since I was feeling it).
160x10,135x8,115x8,90x10,70x10, 1 min. rest, 135x10,115x10,90x10,70x10,50x10
3 minutes moderate cardio.

Dumbell shrugs ( I was feeling this one as well, so I rolled with it, during drop sets, peak/static hold on last sets).
140x8,120x6,100x6,80x6,60x8, 1 min. rest, 120x8,100x8,80x8,60x8
3 minutes moderate cardio

Upright Cable Rows (2 Wide grip/2Narrow grip, very slow, drop sets).
100x10,80x8,60x8,40x8(Wide), 1 min. rest, 110x10,90x7,70x6,50x8, 1 min. rest
100x9,80x9,60x8,40x8 (Wide), 1 min. rest, 110x9,90x7,70x7,50x8,
3 minutes moderate cardio

Workout Notes

Definitely was feeling some exercises today, so I went with it. The pumps have definitely hit the mark now. I just wanted to make sure that I wasn’t imagining it, but they have been getting more prevalent and easier each workout since starting this stack, and today, wow!! I had to push through my trap workouts, they got so pumped it was nuts!! Same for my rear delts. Recovery continues to be off the hook, and I’m sure I can move more weight, but I’m saving it all for next workout phase, when I do straight sets, I smell several personal records being smashed!! Being on this is like whenever I first picked up a weight back when I was 21. Good stuff!!

Other Notes

Lethargy is there, but not so bad since I have eliminated the Sunami mid-day, and switched it to evening. Anything with caffeine in it is more intense now, so I’m having to be careful as to what I drink and when. Overall mood is more geared towards that of a porcupine in nature, meaning “Look, but do not touch”. Definitely gets toned down when I take the Sunami, but more so in the evening. I may just take one Sunami mid-day tomorrow, we’ll see, but this stuff definitely works!! I’ve never had this kinda results from anything, and this fast too!! Haha, log at this point is pretty much moot, since I wanted to see how this stack works, and I’ve proven it does, and does so very well, but,I’m going to continue it for my workout cycle. Also, can’t seem to get enough to eat, but at least I’m eating the good stuff. Still downing more water, and I’ve now gained an official pound. Heart rate is down a bit, seems to have mellowed out, only about 3-4 beats above normal, but temp is still up a few tenths of a degree, but I have no worries what-so-ever. Quick question for Chuck or Tripdog. You guys think the lethargy could be caused form an increase in GH? Perhaps from the Mucuna Pruriens? Just was wondering guys. Thanks as always!

 

[Chuck Diesel]

Quick question for Chuck or Tripdog. You guys think the lethargy could be caused form an increase in GH? Perhaps from the Mucuna Pruriens? Just was wondering guys. Thanks as always!

Could be an increase in GH or the zinc.

 

[subweevil]

Could be an increase in GH or the zinc.

Thanks Chuck, that's what I was thinking. Seems more pronounced when I take a Sunami wiht the DTH, but if I do 2 pills of DTH, then not so much like I did the one day. I'm leaning more towards the GH, as I think this feels like how I felt after getting woken up when taking Mucuna Pruriens before hitting the hay, or from not getting enough sleep after taking it. The great recovery and minimal DOMS help to confirm this and the test boost though. It's funny, I feel tired, down some JP8, and then tear through all my past plateaus on the gym.

 

[subweevil]

Workout #12

Cardio

10 minutes HIIT, followed by 10 minutes 10 minutes steady pace cardio. Got some heavy bag work in a as well, then sparred for like 30 minutes (not non-stop), so I got a good workout in.

Workout notes

Well, it’s cardio, not too much to report here. Felt as easy it did the first day I did it on this stack. Recovery was great, that seems to be one of the main benefits of this stack. My buddy commented that my cardio was really good as we rolled for like 15 minutes straight. Granted, I was in control, so my energy expenditure was very little, while he was wasting a ton of energy trying to better his position, lots of fun. We switched positions and it was still fun, despite him outweighing me by nearly 90lbs. Had to work real hard to keep my aggression under control. Left he gym with a good feeling of accomplishment from the cardio.

Other notes

Still loving this stack, the results speak for themselves. I have been upping my carbs in an attempt to help thwart some of this lethargy, but, I feel the lethargy is positive in the form of GH release, as my recovery is through the roof and I’m sleeping real well. Granted, that can be from some increased test, but, I feel GH is also playing a role here, given some of ingredients. I can do a crazy workout and be barely sore the next few days, when normally, I would have some major DOM’s. I can’t wait until I get into my straight sets phase, I’m sure some PR’s will fall easily. Additionally, not sore anymore from my new job, and, haven’t been sore pretty much 2 days after starting this stack. The carbs being increased has helped a tad, curious to see how much weight I will gain on this stack, since I can’t seem to stop eating. So far, I’m up about a pound, but like I said previously, I can’t see where. Take care until next time!!

 

[subweevil]

Whoops. forgot my dosing for the day:

DTH = 1/1/1, morning, mid-day, evening.
Sunami = 0/1/0 mid-day.

Definitely getting more oily skin from this stack, mainly my nose and starting on my forehead now. Also, some acne popping up on my nose. Update again tomorrow, take care!!

 

[Chuck Diesel]

Whoops. forgot my dosing for the day:

DTH = 1/1/1, morning, mid-day, evening.
Sunami = 0/1/0 mid-day.

Definitely getting more oily skin from this stack, mainly my nose and starting on my forehead now. Also, some acne popping up on my nose. Update again tomorrow, take care!!

thats good ur over 200lbs and responding to only 3 DTH and 1 sunami Tab/day.

 

[subweevil]

I could get by with only 2DTH, but I like the extra aggression from 3, and I enjoy (as does the little lady) the benefits from Sunami. It really stacks well with the DTH. I'm planning on trying DTH 2010 as well, though not til' I'm done with this. My muscles have been looking quite a bit fuller as of late. Quick question for you Chuck/Tripdog. Would it be okay if I added some DHEA (1-2 doses of 25mg.) to this to help with the lethargy, or should I just let it run it's course? I guess what I'm asking is, do you think it will interfere with the GH release I'm experiencing? The lethargy is worse when I use Sunami. I understand why I'm lethargic, and it's a good thing, unless I have to be active. Thanks again!! guys!!

 

[Chuck Diesel]

I could get by with only 2DTH, but I like the extra aggression from 3, and I enjoy (as does the little lady) the benefits from Sunami. It really stacks well with the DTH. I'm planning on trying DTH 2010 as well, though not til' I'm done with this. My muscles have been looking quite a bit fuller as of late. Quick question for you Chuck/Tripdog. Would it be okay if I added some DHEA (1-2 doses of 25mg.) to this to help with the lethargy, or should I just let it run it's course? I guess what I'm asking is, do you think it will interfere with the GH release I'm experiencing? The lethargy is worse when I use Sunami. I understand why I'm lethargic, and it's a good thing, unless I have to be active. Thanks again!! guys!!

adding dhea wont get rid of the lethargy. Its common with DTH, it will go away soon. DHEA will just make u more aggressive and may drop ur libido because more DHEA = less LH.

 

[1HP]

thats good ur over 200lbs and responding to only 3 DTH and 1 sunami Tab/day.

3 DTH is actually a dose I'm already happy with @~190lbs, leaning out and gaining muscle. The mood elevation alone would be worth it, better quality of life literally, you get more done each day. And libido is up. $40 for a 46 day supply is a steal for what you get..

The Sunami at 1 or 2 tabs a day makes a nice addition to feeling even better, and thats $20 for a 70 or 35 day supply.

You got some winner products here Chuck..

How much would you spend to just feel this much better each day of your life? Not even talking bout the increased gains from your work in the gym..

 

[subweevil]

adding dhea wont get rid of the lethargy. Its common with DTH, it will go away soon. DHEA will just make u more aggressive and may drop ur libido because more DHEA = less LH.

Outstanding, thanks man!! I was kinda leaning towards that thought, just wanted a pro in the know to help clue me in. It's funny how lethargic I feel now, but then go tear it up in the gym, definite signs this stack is working on both counts, just the lethargy is hard to deal with at times, as all I want to do is sleep for a day, but I'm sure that won't be for much longer, besides, it's worth it for what I'm gaining from it!! Everyone around me laughs that "I do more work when tired than someone who is wide awake.", but it's just my body adjusting.

3 DTH is actually a dose I'm already happy with @~190lbs, leaning out and gaining muscle. The mood elevation alone would be worth it, better quality of life literally, you get more done each day. And libido is up. $40 for a 46 day supply is a steal for what you get..

The Sunami at 1 or 2 tabs a day makes a nice addition to feeling even better, and thats $20 for a 70 or 35 day supply.

You got some winner products here Chuck..

How much would you spend to just feel this much better each day of your life? Not even talking bout the increased gains from your work in the gym.

Good call 1HP, already brought this up, nice to see a united front on such a solid group of products. One thing you forgotto mention, but that's because you haven't tried it yet, is how well it adds to the performance of JP8, and other NO products like the label says for DTH. When you figure out how well everything stacks together, the prices become way better for all you get. I started out with 1.5 scoops of JP8, and now I can get by with 1!! Just goes to show how well all the products are thought out, everything plays well with others!!

 

[ari4216]

i just start taking DTH yesterday and im already starting the feel the effects, but i know if im crazy but my balls actually seem smaller.

 

[subweevil]

Workout #13

Cardio

DTH= 1/1/1, morning, mid-day, evening.
Sunami = 0/1/0, mid-day.

10 minutes HIIT, 10 minutes steady state. Was kinda crunched for time today, so I didn’t get to do the other 20 minutes, I’m totally bummed about that…not!!

Workout Notes

Not really much to add to the above, vascularity keeps going up though, calves looked pumped afterwards. Felt lethargic going into it, but was still hitting my times, so no worries there.

Other Notes

Vascularity has been going up some, got more definition to my forearms (wonder wonder why?,lol), and calves as well. Harder to tire out, although I am feeling lethargic now, like I could go to bed for a few. This will pass, I’m sure, so again, I’m not worried. It’s just something my body will adjust too, then it’s all good. Once again, great support on the forums!! Take care. Tomorrow is just Sunami, which is good, ‘cause gonna be rolling with the guys for few, and don’t need any extra aggression.

 

[subweevil]

i just start taking DTH yesterday and im already starting the feel the effects, but i know if im crazy but my balls actually seem smaller.

Really? Give it time and they'll be Ginormous in now time, trust me , and everyone else.