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Strongest non-Phenibut sleep aid?

Might not be your thing, but I found Alpha Lions sleep formula to be very effective & still use it after heavy training sessions. Cbd & Hemp, Ashwagandha combos work for me too. Gaba is an interesting one. Lots of info on it, how it struggles to cross the Blood Brain Barrier, but for me it has very profound effects. Ah Phenibut. I absolutely LOVE it. I know for you it's not an option, but I've used it consistently for over a year at 3g twice a week and it still does it's magic as well now as it did back then. Just goes to show how everyone is different as I appear to have no tolerance/ withdrawals at all like many seem to have.
 
James496 said:
Might not be your thing, but I found Alpha Lions sleep formula to be very effective & still use it after heavy training sessions. Cbd & Hemp, Ashwagandha combos work for me too. Gaba is an interesting one. Lots of info on it, how it struggles to cross the Blood Brain Barrier, but for me it has very profound effects. Ah Phenibut. I absolutely LOVE it. I know for you it's not an option, but I've used it consistently for over a year at 3g twice a week and it still does it's magic as well now as it did back then. Just goes to show how everyone is different as I appear to have no tolerance/ withdrawals at all like many seem to have.
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Just for awareness on gaba, it doesn’t need to cross the BBB because it works in the gut.
 
MA labs sleep product is solid -www.masupps.com

Dream N Grow by Iron Mag Labs is decent too - www.ironmaglabs.com

Discount code "WES15" works at checkout for discount on both sites.

I use both of these products and I alternate with Prescription Trazadone.

I find also prepping for bed makes a huge difference. No TV or cell phone 1-2 hour before bed. Darken your room as much as you can, zero ilghts. Take a contrast shower 30mins before bed (super hot, then turn to super cold, back to super hot...do this for a few minutes)

Sleep in a cool room, either with a fan lightly on, but make sure the temp is COOL, not hot.

No food or drinks prior to bed.

Good luck.
 
kisaj said:
Just for awareness on gaba, it doesn’t need to cross the BBB because it works in the gut.
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Yup absolutely.

When I first tried it I wondered what was happening as I got the cold rush/ and lightness but it passes & to be honest it's actually quite relaxing. Could always buy a quality sleep supplement and add in more gaba to it
 
robbieboy672 said:
Hey all, I need some sleep aid suggestions. Is there anything out there with knockout power that doesn’t have Phenibut or Kratom in it?

I currently take 2 scoops of Dream chaser or 2 scoops of Tranquility along with 4 scoops of MA Labs Stage 3z and 2 capsules of somatozine.

this usually gets me to sleep for maybe 3 or 4 hours, then when I wake up I have to take either Benadryl or trazadone to get back to sleep. I’ve tried Sleep Support by SNS, and Sleep by Chemix Lifestyles and didn’t notice too much.

I’m 3 months sober as of yesterday, and before that I probably haven’t slept without the aid of gabapentin, benzos, baclofen, Phenibut, soma, or other abusable downers in a decade. So, im struggling. Im in AA and im doing great with my recovery, but I want to be able to get a full night’s sleep once in a while. Is there anything that is non-abusable/recreational that will knock me the **** out?
Thank you!
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Do you have links to the dream chaser and tranquility products? I think I found the dream chaser... and I was worried about interactions with trazodone but it looks like you got me beat with everything your taking with trazodone.
 
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