Stims and on cycle support

TheBigBrodie

TheBigBrodie

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My amino acid supplement is full of stims. Would it be smart to take a on cycle support to minimize the blood pressure spikes and the heart palpitations
 
Not necessary in my oppinion. If you are getting severe jitters, anxiety attacks and heart palpatations you just shouldn't use stims period otherwise I wouldn't bother.
 
What?

Wouldnt it just be better to put the money for the cycle support supplement on another amino product without stims if thats your concern?

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HAMinTheTrap said:
What?

Wouldnt it just be better to put the money for the cycle support supplement on another amino product without stims if thats your concern?

problem solved
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I thought of that actually. But I love the results that im getting from it so im looking for a way to minimize the side effects.
 
If you love the effects of being fired up on stims then there is little point in trying to negate the effects. That's a bit like loving a sleep supplement but drinking a coffee at the same time so it doesn't make you drowsy.
 
a cycle support wont have the effect you're looking for as your bp is being spiked acutely from the stim bomb while the cycle support would work to manage overall bp... unless your bp is high all the time, theres no use for the cycle support because it wont help the acute effect.

Using less stim (maybe half dose with 1/2 dose plain bcaas) or taking some type of vasodilator would really be the only potential options.
 
TheBigBrodie said:
My amino acid supplement is full of stims. Would it be smart to take a on cycle support to minimize the blood pressure spikes and the heart palpitations
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look into cycle assist by cel....contains both hawthorn berries and celery seed extract, plus other healthy goodies!!!
 
Wobmarvel said:
To be honest if you need a cycle support for your BCAA supplement I think your in trouble.
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most cycle support supps contain a variety of healthy ingredients...I know guys who use them as staples.
 
Wobmarvel said:
That's true. Ambrosia nectar is a good example of a cycle support that isn't marketed as a cycle support.
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with environmental contaminants, food additives and so forth never hurts to have a little extra protection...I am a recovering alcoholic and run cycle assist+tudca every now and then to help prevent against fatty liver.
 
thebigt said:
with environmental contaminants, food additives and so forth never hurts to have a little extra protection...I am a recovering alcoholic and run cycle assist+tudca every now and then to help prevent against fatty liver.
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Makes sense. I think in the case of the OP though being worried about elevated blood pressure is one thing but actual heart palpatations are something more serious that a cycle support probably isn't the solution for.

Realise my last comment may be misinterpreted. A lot of people who don't run cycles use ambrosia nectar because it's marketed as a general health supplement but actually contains a lot of the same ingredients as a cycle support so I see what you mean.
 
Wobmarvel said:
Makes sense. I think in the case of the OP though being worried about elevated blood pressure is one thing but actual heart palpatations are something more serious that a cycle support probably isn't the solution for.

Realise my last comment may be misinterpreted. A lot of people who don't run cycles use ambrosia nectar because it's marketed as a general health supplement but actually contains a lot of the same ingredients as a cycle support so I see what you mean.
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I think we are on the same page!!!
 
Wobmarvel said:
To be honest if you need a cycle support for your BCAA supplement I think your in trouble.
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This. Cycle support supplements are great, but if the OP is getting blood pressure spikes and heart palpitations from a BCAA supplement with caffeine, there is probably an underlying issue. Keep in mind, BCAA supplements that have added caffeine do not contain that much caffeine. 200 mg max, maybe. Unless the OP is stacking this with a bunch of coffee, PWO, and other stimulants throughout the day.
 
AntM1564 said:
This. Cycle support supplements are great, but if the OP is getting blood pressure spikes and heart palpitations from a BCAA supplement with caffeine, there is probably an underlying issue. Keep in mind, BCAA supplements that have added caffeine do not contain that much caffeine. 200 mg max, maybe. Unless the OP is stacking this with a bunch of coffee, PWO, and other stimulants throughout the day.
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They have bcaas with dmaa tho so he could be using one of these stupid ones ha
 
I would say to solve your problem you should find the right amino acid dosage that's just right for you so you won't need to take anything to calm the side effects from the stims in your amino acid product.. I'm not sure how much stims are in the product you're using but maybe do half scoop instead of full scoop.. If you want to try and add in an on cycle to see if it helps or not I would recommend cel cycle assist.
 
Wobmarvel said:
Maybe. If anyone out there can pm me the source of the bcaa supplement with dmaa that would be great. I wanna stock up.
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off the top of my head the one I remember was "off the chain"... by now tho there's prob very little dmaa on the market in any form tho
 
booneman77 said:
They have bcaas with dmaa tho so he could be using one of these stupid ones ha
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Really? What the hell is going on. I thought adding caffeine to aminos, spreads, protein, bars, etc. was not needed. Now, we have DMAA and other exotic stims in amino acids. I really hope this is a trend that ends; adding stimulants to everything.
 
AntM1564 said:
I have a bottle, I will check and report back.
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report back with what? its not a question of it they did or not haha. Hi-tech was putting dmaa in everything they made for awhile there
 
LeanEngineer said:
I would say to solve your problem you should find the right amino acid dosage that's just right for you so you won't need to take anything to calm the side effects from the stims in your amino acid product.. I'm not sure how much stims are in the product you're using but maybe do half scoop instead of full scoop.. If you want to try and add in an on cycle to see if it helps or not I would recommend cel cycle assist.
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good choice, i'm a fan of cycle assist.
 
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