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johnnyp said:
I like bromantane better because though I didn't use it every day I never noticed any sort of tolerance like with phenylp. Also the energy isn't a bounce off the walls kind of energy more just generally a lot more engaged and determined to accomplish the task at hand.
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How long is the kick in time?
 
DarthGainer said:
How long is the kick in time?
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I wish I could give you a definitive answer, but I can only share my anecdotal experience. That being that I would just take it with my other pre workout supplements about 30 minutes before hand and after a few good warm up sets I would notice the intensity start to ramp up and it would start taking effect.
 
johnnyp said:
I wish I could give you a definitive answer, but I can only share my anecdotal experience. That being that I would just take it with my other pre workout supplements about 30 minutes before hand and after a few good warm up sets I would notice the intensity start to ramp up and it would start taking effect.
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Nah thats a good answer, Gonna give this a shot. Cheers for bring my attention to it.
 
I like:

Caffeine 300 mg
Phenylpiracetam 150 mg
Alpha gpc (not a stim but should work synergistically whith phenylp) 600 mg
ALCAR 1.5 g

Seriously feel a little high when I have that stack. It's awesome lol
 
Really appreciate the stim in alphamine. But does it do the job? Been thinking about buying some tubs, but never heard anything about its effect. Only the stim:popworm:
 
oyvind said:
Really appreciate the stim in alphamine. But does it do the job? Been thinking about buying some tubs, but never heard anything about its effect. Only the stim:popworm:
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Too early to answer this question for me. We shall see.
 
Ninjo said:
How pronounced are the mood enhancing effects of Alphamine?
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Feeling good. Cut my Conqu3r dose in half with the addition of the Alphamine PWO. So the Amento in Conqu3r is in effect also. First day was a little over-stimmed, but knocking out tasks at work like nobody's business!!
 
Lets spur some conversation.

Arecoline Hydrobromide (from Areca catechu Seed), what are peoples thoughts.

Looks toxic to me, yet a few products which i won't name are using.
 
NoAddedHmones said:
Lets spur some conversation.

Arecoline Hydrobromide (from Areca catechu Seed), what are peoples thoughts.

Looks toxic to me, yet a few products which i won't name are using.
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Chewing betel nuts aren't uncommon in some Asian countries, I know it's bad for oral health and the WHO lists it as a carcinogen.
 
johnnyp said:
I like bromantane better because though I didn't use it every day I never noticed any sort of tolerance like with phenylp. Also the energy isn't a bounce off the walls kind of energy more just generally a lot more engaged and determined to accomplish the task at hand.
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Do you think there's any risk of addiction or dependence with this?
 
NoAddedHmones said:
Can you provide some detail on bromoantanes effects. Do you stack with caff etc?
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Sorry for the late response. I've only taken bromantane a few times. It's hard to explain it but the first few times I took it, I took it with my usual caffeine and theanine stack along with other noot stacks. I didn't feel any stim effects at first but it slowly kicks in along with some other weird feelings and then later the anxyiolitic effects kick in too. I wouldn't recommend this for a pre-workout or anything like that because of the price but then again, I've never taken it before working out.

I found that stacking it along with a SSRE is the best combination because it puts you in a good mellow mood.
 
There is a risk of addiction/dependency because of the good mood that it puts you in. The only other time I've felt like that was for a few minutes with PEA and I feel that bromantane's effects last way longer.

I haven't taken it in over a week and haven't felt any withdraw effects.
 
NoAddedHmones said:
Lets spur some conversation.

Arecoline Hydrobromide (from Areca catechu Seed), what are peoples thoughts.

Looks toxic to me, yet a few products which i won't name are using.
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Wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. there is an arcoline thread from earlier in the year you can read. 50+ studies showing toxicity.
 
oo123 said:
There is a risk of addiction/dependency because of the good mood that it puts you in. The only other time I've felt like that was for a few minutes with PEA and I feel that bromantane's effects last way longer.

I haven't taken it in over a week and haven't felt any withdraw effects.
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Is this considered something we can discuss where to acquire? Or no? It's completely legal correct?
 
NoAddedHmones

New pre from APS here.

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Ingredients

SYNTHENOX-CARNOSINE/NITRIC OXIDE COMPLEX (Beta-alanine, L-citrulline, Arginine, 2-oxo-Pentanedioic acid, MESOSWELL-CELL Volumising ATP MATRIX [DL-creatine malate, L-taurine, Creatine nitrate, Ascorbic acid, Creatinol-O-phosphate, Agmatine sulphate] NEUROMORPH-NEURO ENERGISED STIMULANT MATRIX [Glucoronolactone, Caffeine Anhydrous, Grapefruit Extract, Eria Jarensis Extract (whole plant), Erythropalum Scandens Extract (leaves and fruit), Citrus Aurantium Extract (fruit), Acidity regulator (296), Theobroma Cocoa Extract, Flavours, Sweeteners (950, 955), Anti-caking agent (551), Colour (129) CONTAINS SULPHITES.
Extra Ingredients Caffeine 300mg
Taurine 1500mg
Glucuronolactone 1200mg
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seems like companies are now using Eria Jarensis Extract as a dmma/dmba replacement

Gaspari is using it also in the new SP250

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Auslifter said:
NoAddedHmones

New pre from APS here.

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seems like companies are now using Eria Jarensis Extract as a dmma/dmba replacement

Gaspari is using it also in the new SP250

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Thanks for posting these dude, looks like we are back to the kitchen spice rack blend energy complexes. I shall review them when i have a chance.
 
NoAddedHmones said:
Thanks for posting these dude, looks like we are back to the kitchen spice rack blend energy complexes. I shall review them when i have a chance.
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sweet. Im not jumping on them just yet lol but caught my attention after i checked it out from stack3d, then saw aps has it in this new pre. so could be decent
 
Synapsin laughed at eria jaransis in 2013 in a craze thread. He said the pea extracts were basically a joke.Coop posted today on another forum echoing the same sentiment. My hopes are not high. I miss dmaa :(
 
Afi140 said:
Synapsin laughed at eria jaransis in 2013 in a craze thread. He said the pea extracts were basically a joke.Coop posted today on another forum echoing the same sentiment. My hopes are not high. I miss dmaa :(
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well there's the bullet in this one. unless it turns out to be an un natty version of it or something.
 
Afi140 said:
Wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. there is an arcoline thread from earlier in the year you can read. 50+ studies showing toxicity.
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Yeah sort of agreeing with you on this one. Just read through the 20 page thread on bb.com, seems only some very well known shady CRAZEy characters were pimping it as safe.
 
johnnyp said:
I like bromantane better because though I didn't use it every day I never noticed any sort of tolerance like with phenylp. Also the energy isn't a bounce off the walls kind of energy more just generally a lot more engaged and determined to accomplish the task at hand.
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Are you buying this in bulk? I don't see products any where. What's avg price per serving?
 
kck said:
Are you buying this in bulk? I don't see products any where. What's avg price per serving?
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Yes but it isn't on sites that sell common bodybuilding/fitness related supplements it isn't the most cost effective compound, though doses can vary by individual.
 
Wow! Just noticed this stim stack: ADRAFINIL + LADASTEN + PHENOTROPIL

I don't know that much about phenotropil. Any anecdotal experiences?
 
kck said:
Wow! Just noticed this stim stack: ADRAFINIL + LADASTEN + PHENOTROPIL

I don't know that much about phenotropil. Any anecdotal experiences?
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I've taken 50mg of Phenylpiracetam (Phenotropil) alone and it gave me similar effects like caffeine without the jittery feelings. The anxyiolitic effects weren't as good as the bromantane effects. I've only taken it a few times though.

It's highly not recommended to take Phenyl with any other stimulants so that stack sounds kind of dangerous...
 
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DarthGainer said:
Whats bromantane like sleep wise, does it effect it.
I would be taking it first thing then sleeping like 14 hours later.
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I'm still able to sleep when I take it first thing in the morning. I take it along with my noot stack and 200mg of caffeine.
 
I only notice lowered anxiety with Bromantane / Ladasten...and not being able to go to sleep at all (but staying awake in a most relaxed, non-irritable way).

BUT...just Google Bromantane & AMYLOID (you know, the plaques that are found in Alzheimer's - the connection may be casual, but enough to not make this stuff a habit).

If you want a noticeable step up from Bromantane, look into *** METAPROT. *** (aka Metaprote, Bemitil, I only tried it once so far, and it was pretty amazing. )
 
ladini said:
I only notice lowered anxiety with Bromantane / Ladasten...and not being able to go to sleep at all (but staying awake in a most relaxed, non-irritable way).

BUT...just Google Bromantane & AMYLOID (you know, the plaques that are found in Alzheimer's - the connection may be casual, but enough to not make this stuff a habit).

If you want a noticeable step up from Bromantane, look into *** METAPROT. *** (I only tried it once so far, and it was pretty amazing. )
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Dam that stuff looks really interesting but theres not very much feedback on it anywhere
 
All the reviewers I read preferred it to Bromantane. From my (strictly middle-aged, nootropic couch-potato) perspective, I'd say Metaprot has at least 10x the passive stimulant effect (that is to say, stimulation while not exercising or exerting oneself). Not so sure about the anxiolytic value compared to Bromantane, but didn't miss it so much on Metaprot.

For me Bromantane is the "real Modifinil" - you genuinely stay awake, but with no other great effects on motivation, energy, etc. like you'd expect from a normal stimulant. And it seems people don't notice Bromantante much unless they are exerting themselves somehow.

With Metaprot, you'll feel it sitting down!
 
bigmills01 said:
I am looking for the best thing for blood flow for the pump to get the blood flowing through the muscle to stretch out the fasciae.does anyone know of any good products I can but make my own? I would appreciate any help...seems like all good NO products don't exist anymore. .
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Hulk why would you post this in a stim discussion thread?
 
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