Steroid Myths - Fact or Fiction

Answer to #5 - Arnold was on juice?

  • Without a doubt!!

    Votes: 1,150 96.4%

  • Definitely no!!

    Votes: 15 1.3%

  • dunno...

    Votes: 28 2.3%
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wait wait, people actually doubt that Arnold juiced? If you cant look at old pics of Arnold and tell he juiced then you shouldnt be allowed on this board. I would go so far to say that he started juicing again for Terminator 3.
 
UNDERTAKER said:
wait wait, people actually doubt that Arnold juiced? If you cant look at old pics of Arnold and tell he juiced then you shouldnt be allowed on this board. I would go so far to say that he started juicing again for Terminator 3.
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or was it a body double? in any case the guy looks great for his age.
 
I wonder what the dosages were for Arnie?
As some say he had "dbol for breakfast"...
something tells me that dbol or not (or any other) that dosing back then was NO where near what it is now...and in my opinion, no one has come close to the aesthetic appeal and proportions as Arnold. Not trying to get a debate started on that one but with all the modern BB's bloated guts, big wide hips...the older guys whatever they did...looked better....just my opinion.
 
How can you even pose a question like number 5 when Arnold on several occasions actually came out and said he juiced?
 
baham99 said:
Once and for all, I just want to find out if certain things are preferences from board to board, state to state, gym to gym, or if there is a right way, and a wrong way. Differences in style, or differences in intelligience:

1. Pyramid up on D-bol dose to ease into it??

2. Separating enanthate and deca injections because they "overload" the androgenic receptors if taken together??

3. Site injections for winny more effective for that muscle??

4. Overwork every muscle while on a cycle - virtually impossible to overtrain??

5. Arnold juiced??

To me, these are all fiction...any truth in them?
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Haven't read the responses, so forgive me if mine are redundant.

1: Pyramiding up or down alwasy seemed wasteful to me. Never a need to ease into anything.

2: hogwash. Same receptor.

3: YES! Site injections on actives (not esterifieds) work well.

4: Always possible to overtrain. Steroid reduce liklihood, but can happen.

5: Arnold admitted to using steroids.
 
I would go so far to say that he started juicing again for Terminator 3
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Saw a picture of Arnold walking next to his pool or someone's pool in a magazine not very long before Term. 3 came out. Dude his stomach looked like an old fat lady's ass, and can't say he really even looked muscular anymore. To look the way he did in T3 I think would be impossible w/o help from anabolics especially at his age.
 
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here is an article about turning fat into muscle and most steroids dont help that process. idk read it
 
You can't turn fat into muscle we all know that.. AAS helps to hold on to the muscle you have while you are cutting..
 
coofoostu said:
Does any documentation exist on how bodybuilders of the seventies used steroids? I remember reading an article that said arnold admitted to using steroids when he came to america at age 20 but other bodybuilers said he told them he had been on dbol for years. I really would like to know how none of them had gyno.
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i doubt bodybuilders back in the day were using nolva, arimidex or proviron. I cant recall where but i remember hearing they used chrysin at one point. They used something else i cant remember what it was though.
 
Provi has been around for a long time.

But that's the thing, they didn't use any anti-e's ! Late 70's, early 80's every-body started getting uptight about and exaggerating side-effects that rarely if ever occured with normal doses. These days every kid with an itchy nipple thinks he has gyno.
 
Big Cat said:
Provi has been around for a long time.

But that's the thing, they didn't use any anti-e's ! Late 70's, early 80's every-body started getting uptight about and exaggerating side-effects that rarely if ever occured with normal doses. These days every kid with an itchy nipple thinks he has gyno.
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Well, it is nice to see the infamous Big Cat is lurking around AM. Your expertise is always welcome and appreciated.:bow28:





Was that enough of an ass-kiss?? for Big Cat to come around more often?
 
Haven't been finding enough time to get around to my own boards much these last few months :p But if you have interesting threads I should take a look at, I'd be much obliged if you would mail the link to me at

[email protected]
 
Big Cat said:
Provi has been around for a long time.

But that's the thing, they didn't use any anti-e's ! Late 70's, early 80's every-body started getting uptight about and exaggerating side-effects that rarely if ever occured with normal doses. These days every kid with an itchy nipple thinks he has gyno.
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That, and 500mg/wk of test was a HUGE dose. They were much more relaxed with their dosing.
 
20 years ago one of the BB rags did a big spread on Arnold. They put in a bunch of never seen before pics from the 70's. There were several of him on a boat and he looked to be around 190- 200 lbs. I looked at them and thought man he is small. Those pics were taken in his competitive years. I never saw them published again. Those guys only cycled before contests. They had long off seasons were they would get very small. If you look at the old pics of them training when they look huge, they are all from the same photo shoots. Basically there are a lot of pics from the same shoot. but not a lot of photo shoots were done. just look at what they are wearing and where they are..
I like the bodies of the old BB's better then the gh enhanced ones of today. The guts these guys are sporting are ridiculous. Look at Lee Haney his stomach is tiny and his back is huge.He looks a lot better than the guys of today.
 
oldskoolbb said:
20 years ago one of the BB rags did a big spread on Arnold. They put in a bunch of never seen before pics from the 70's. There were several of him on a boat and he looked to be around 190- 200 lbs. I looked at them and thought man he is small. Those pics were taken in his competitive years. I never saw them published again. Those guys only cycled before contests. They had long off seasons were they would get very small. If you look at the old pics of them training when they look huge, they are all from the same photo shoots. Basically there are a lot of pics from the same shoot. but not a lot of photo shoots were done. just look at what they are wearing and where they are..
I like the bodies of the old BB's better then the gh enhanced ones of today. The guts these guys are sporting are ridiculous. Look at Lee Haney his stomach is tiny and his back is huge.He looks a lot better than the guys of today.
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A lot healthier also.
 
arnold said hes taken steroids


iv heard he took 8 dbol a day at the age of 13...i dont know if thats true but if it was, damn
 
arnie jucied for sure, i go to a gym with a former back to back mr america and mr universe who used to work out with arnie in the 70,s and 80,s.
 
baham99 said:
Once and for all, I just want to find out if certain things are preferences from board to board, state to state, gym to gym, or if there is a right way, and a wrong way. Differences in style, or differences in intelligience:

1. Pyramid up on D-bol dose to ease into it?? never heard of that, nor do I believe it

2. Separating enanthate and deca injections because they "overload" the androgenic receptors if taken together?? theory.. Just take. The half lifes cause the compound to be in your system for weeks. So unless you switched every 3-4 weeks.... stupid

3. Site injections for winny more effective for that muscle?? more theory stuff that has ever been proven

4. Overwork every muscle while on a cycle - virtually impossible to overtrain?? totally bogus. you can overtrain, undereat, under sleep at any point of your training.. cycle or not

5. Arnold juiced?? he admited it,, when it was legal

To me, these are all fiction...any truth in them?
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CrazyNut said:
you know what i always funny, arnold took enormous amounts of gear, so much deca and dbol, yet he is still able to have kids etc.
I mean, there is no way they knew as much about PCT etc back in the 70's yet he seems to have recovered fine. Now there is so much scare using deca due its shut down of HPTA.
Maybe it has something to do with the dosages etc. ? Not sure
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Kids yes, but Arnold has those heart problems - serious heart surgery at age 49 with recurring problems since then.
 
yeahright said:
Kids yes, but Arnold has those heart problems - serious heart surgery at age 49 with recurring problems since then.
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True, but there aren't any DEFINITIVE studies to show that aas cause heart problems. There are even studies that show that some (such as test) are even beneficial to heart health.
 
someone needs to read the board rules don'tknowabout me.. first post and you are breaking the rules.. not a very good start... that's your warning
 
Matthew D said:
someone needs to read the board rules don'tknowabout me.. first post and you are breaking the rules.. not a very good start... that's your warning
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hows he breaking the rules
 
yanke10 said:
hows he breaking the rules
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Well I was not 21 at the time. However, the rules do not actually state that you cannot post in the steroid board, only that you can not post in the steroid board in regard to your use of steroids. They do this so that people under 21 using steroids cannot get advice or guidance for something they should not be doing. However, I did not post about using steroids since I do not use them, only joined in the conversation about Arnold.
 
Arnold has admitted to steriod usage more than once. Even in the interview with Barbara Walters. Also on pumping iron. Now I definitely believe that he didnt over indulge or over use of AAS. Definitely has the best genetics and wish he would have really pushed his quads a lot harder.
 
IN regards to the site injecting I believe it is true I remember reading an article from I believe John Romano wrote an article on the conversation that he had with Ducchaine. Romano was Duccahines cellmate in the Penn if i remember correctly. But in any case if Ducchaine said there is some validity to site injections I'm going to roll with that. I can't be sure but I believe since winny had no esther that the muscle it was injected into got first crack at the steroid or something to that effect.
 
yeah arnie did in fact do dbol. i remeber years ago back in the 90's a bio came out about arnold admittin he used dbol at a very young age, 14-15 i think and admitted taking like 5x the amount the guy told him to daily in order to get bigger faster. he supp. did this till he came over from austria. After the bio came out, from what i hear i guess he thought his rep would look bad so the remainin copies were pulled and the bio had any 'usage' information edited out. i ve had plenty of people tell me this but havent seen the bio itself(or the fist ones). I do remeber seeing an article explaing the issue way back when i was in high school though like 5-6 yrs ago lol.
 
in the special edition of pumping iron he admitts to using dbol and says everyone else in his gym were doing the same thing.
 
What about hairloss,aside from Katz....not really that bad for them....,and the NO gyno thing makes no sence to me ??? No Serms,Ai's...No post?? 5 alpha blockers??Anyway they are the Legends !!!!:bow28:
 
baham99 said:
Once and for all, I just want to find out if certain things are preferences from board to board, state to state, gym to gym, or if there is a right way, and a wrong way. Differences in style, or differences in intelligience:

1. Pyramid up on D-bol dose to ease into it??

2. Separating enanthate and deca injections because they "overload" the androgenic receptors if taken together??

3. Site injections for winny more effective for that muscle??

4. Overwork every muscle while on a cycle - virtually impossible to overtrain??

5. Arnold juiced??

To me, these are all fiction...any truth in them?
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1. Good idea, that's what I'll be doing

2. Would'nt know

3. I very much doubt it

4. Sooner or later, you will overtrain if you continue

5. Does a bear **** in the woods?
 
lol well he nvr really admitted to the use in pumping iron lol, just that nothing was wrong and everybody around him took D without fear of getting into any trouble. lol gotta love the way he worded it; u know and i know he did, but evidently he didnt want t goin on record that he offivaill y admitted it. to bad i dont have a print of that bio he had taken off the shelves..
 
TripDog said:
What about hairloss,aside from Katz....not really that bad for them....,and the NO gyno thing makes no sence to me ??? No Serms,Ai's...No post?? 5 alpha blockers??Anyway they are the Legends !!!!:bow28:
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hairloss while jucing? you are either prone or your not.
 
All false including 5.

Arnold only took liver tabs and wheat grass.
 
oldskoolbb said:
20 years ago one of the BB rags did a big spread on Arnold. They put in a bunch of never seen before pics from the 70's. There were several of him on a boat and he looked to be around 190- 200 lbs. I looked at them and thought man he is small. Those pics were taken in his competitive years. I never saw them published again. Those guys only cycled before contests. They had long off seasons were they would get very small. If you look at the old pics of them training when they look huge, they are all from the same photo shoots. Basically there are a lot of pics from the same shoot. but not a lot of photo shoots were done. just look at what they are wearing and where they are..
I like the bodies of the old BB's better then the gh enhanced ones of today. The guts these guys are sporting are ridiculous. Look at Lee Haney his stomach is tiny and his back is huge.He looks a lot better than the guys of today.
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I see Lee Haney training some guys at world gym in F town and he still looks badass! Its sad to see Arnold in such bad shape.
 
Winny is not the best choice. There's a lot better. But oral winny is cheaper anyways. And Arnold admitted to having taken steroids pretty much all the way up until they were made completely illegal in 1990 or whenever it happened.
 
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