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Condition1 said:
Man i've always thought I should try front squats but I could not bring myself to do it. I think i'd fall back on my ass.
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yea dude they definetly suck balls. but its another exercise i could prolly go up in weight in, since i train DC style, and i didnt feel like i got all that much out of them, i feel like my shoulders got hit more from how i was holding it lol, i used leg extentions after juss to burn them out before i strechted.

Tomorrow is an off day. so most likely nothing to report.
 
futurepilot said:
They're alot more stable that you would think, you might even find them easier than back squats.
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they are much hard in the sense that they could be done wrong more easily. have the bar slip to far fowar or back,.

i didnt like them compared to back squats, more strain on my lower back (i dont know why) and much harder to hold in a confortable position
 
crazyfool405 said:
they are much hard in the sense that they could be done wrong more easily. have the bar slip to far fowar or back,.

i didnt like them compared to back squats, more strain on my lower back (i dont know why) and much harder to hold in a confortable position
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If your doing them wrong you'll know for sure...usually as you fall forward/backward and hit the ground.

True, it may take a while to get the right form down, but once you get them right they're addicting, its like any other lift, you just want to pile more an more weight on.
 
i find it hard to keep it in that groove well enough that im not using my shoulders / arms to hold it up,.

i never felt like i was gunna fall though.
 
ok week 3 day 4

PR on Deadlift, 345 for 2 sets of one,

felt good, i think i coulda squeezed another rep or too, my hands were slipping hardcore, the gym i workout in is surrounded by windows, its like a sauna in there, i was sweating balls, any way i took a quick pic,

it really goes to show how lighting effects the picture lol

ill send it to myself then post it.

oh yea i also got an extra 2 reps on dumbell curls, 50 for 8-4-2 rest pause, last time was 50x 6-3-1
 
not the best quality, my girl left for school, and has the camera .... and there was no space on her comp for the pix anyway, i need to see if my bro can take a few, but hell say im gay and not take them haha, what a tool, this is for a good cause,

this pic was relaxed no flex, after 1 set of deadlifts i believe.
 

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Agreed! Front Squats done properly are so awesome..Your Tear drops bulge...So motivating..U doing a widowmaker front squat? Now they are fun..Last 3 reps are agony.
 
Necromancer said:
Agreed! Front Squats done properly are so awesome..Your Tear drops bulge...So motivating..U doing a widowmaker front squat? Now they are fun..Last 3 reps are agony.
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ytes i will be, this last workout was a test, and i couldnt get more then 12 reps, i feel like a puss, but whatever, ill work up to it


NOTE: cardio has been shitty, i feel like i cant go higher then 10 reps, on most lifts,
 
crazyfool405 said:
ok week 3 day 4

PR on Deadlift, 345 for 2 sets of one,

felt good, i think i coulda squeezed another rep or too, my hands were slipping hardcore, the gym i workout in is surrounded by windows, its like a sauna in there, i was sweating balls, any way i took a quick pic,

it really goes to show how lighting effects the picture lol

ill send it to myself then post it.

oh yea i also got an extra 2 reps on dumbell curls, 50 for 8-4-2 rest pause, last time was 50x 6-3-1
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I got some lifting straps from nutraplanet for like 5-10 bucks. They are cotton, made by Valeo. I had some fancier ones that sucked balls, these are godsent. I absolutely LOVE them for deadlifts, dumbell raises (lats), hell even rows. Just about any back workout, they add a dimension.

Specifically in your case, they make sweating no sweat... I sweat like the little pig that made his house out of straw and I always have a great grip on the bar. Highly recommend them, they also work great for shrugs and other shoulder exercises.
 
crazyfool405 said:
ok guys.... im contenplating this, feedback if you wanna give it

i may want to run the phera for 5 weeks
so the new cycle will be like this (MAYBE)

P Plex 38.4/57.6/57.6/38.4/19.2
Mdrol ______________ /10/20mg/20(or 30)/same as previous week


just becuase i think that pplex will continue its gains into week 5. and the mdrol will then keep it up.
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bump on this q
 
the question was/is what do u think about that bridge instead of the first one i was gunna do?

original was
PPLEX 38.4/57.6/57.6/19.2
MDROL ____________/10/20/20/20

New is
PPLEX 38.4/57.6/57.6/38.4/19.2
MDROL_____________/10/20mg/20 or 30/20 or 30

i changed it to possibly this one because going from 57.6 to 19.2 seems like a huge decrease,

i also extended it becuase i feel that i could possibly gain into the 5th week with PPLEX and by the tim ethat diminishes the Mdrol will pick up the slack.

i want feed back on that new bridge, becqause ill start it tomorrow lol
 
crazyfool405 said:
i also extended it becuase i feel that i could possibly gain into the 5th week with PPLEX and by the tim ethat diminishes the Mdrol will pick up the slack.
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Dude honestly you need to evaluate what your workouts. If you had posted that pic and asked for critiques, outside of this log, i think most people would tell you to get a gym membership. You cant have done all these cycles and still look like that without something being way off.

No offense shoulde be taken, but your taking methyl steroids, which is a common phrase thrown around, but what it means is that your poisoning your liver, now you liver can bounce back, but this is like you 7th cycle right? At some point your eyes will probabaly just turn yellow and we'll never hear from you again.

Just trying to give out some friendly advice, nobody wants this to be your epitaph.
 
futurepilot said:
Dude honestly you need to evaluate what your workouts. If you had posted that pic and asked for critiques, outside of this log, i think most people would tell you to get a gym membership. You cant have done all these cycles and still look like that without something being way off.

No offense shoulde be taken, but your taking methyl steroids, which is a common phrase thrown around, but what it means is that your poisoning your liver, now you liver can bounce back, but this is like you 7th cycle right? At some point your eyes will probabaly just turn yellow and we'll never hear from you again.

Just trying to give out some friendly advice, nobody wants this to be your epitaph.
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not my 7th, and dont take me for a fool, i know what im taking i know how it works, and i know what im doing to my body, im not an idiot, so dont take me as one, and with that said...

maybe 5th (4th if u dont include methyl 1 D)

as far as the way i look, there are definetly things that need work,

i did lose 30 pounds (205 to 177 in 4 weeks) AFTER MY APPENDIX WAS REMOVED, was a big set back,

genetix are a big problem with me, not blaming it all on that, but being in nutrition (getting an RD) and studying bodybuilding and supplements in general, i do know my ****, and i train hard, i eat well, but i literally had to force my body to get over 185...

i understand where your coming from becuase i have said this before and i will say it again, I dont feel like i look like i work out, People i know say i do, but it dont come out in my pix, maybe they are just being nice lol.

as far as a gym member ship, i goto school that hs a gym, i work at a gym, and the gym i belong to the kickboxing gym has most of what i need. i would like that second leg press but thats all, which is why i was indecicive on my 3rd compound leg movement.

Either Way,

today strength went up

flat bb bench got an extra rep on 225 and i did one rep with 245.

went up to 90s on DBs for 5 after that on incline, it felt nice maybe coulda squeezed out another,

Seated machine military press went up from 150 for 8 to 160 for 8-4-2 Rest pause.

Reverse grip tri extention went up by 10 pounds but only got 4 good reps.

Good workout today....:thumbsup:

Pictures on monday
 
crazyfool405 said:
not my 7th, and dont take me for a fool, i know what im taking i know how it works, and i know what im doing to my body, im not an idiot, so dont take me as one, and with that said...

maybe 5th (4th if u dont include methyl 1 D)
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Either way, get blood done. And good luck man. Im not trying to rag on you, just trying to throw out some ideas.
 
futurepilot said:
Either way, get blood done. And good luck man. Im not trying to rag on you, just trying to throw out some ideas.
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i got blood Pre Cycle, liver enzymes were high, but i worked out the Day before, n it takes about a week to get to normal, if you dont work out.

next blood test, will be the 2nd week of mdrol

then the next blood test will be a week or 2 after PCT

i got it covered bro, im not some retard lol
 
ok week 4 day 1 38.4mg PPLex 10mg Mdrol
im most likely gunna slowly lower the dose of PPLEX while i rais the dose of MDROL prolly as we get later in the week

WT today literally 3 min after a shake maybe a lil less becuase i didnt realize i was supposed to weight myself lol
206.2. so thats almost 8 pounds... no apparent fat gain that i can see or feel, maybe a little water but my diet is clean, i did have a cheat meal yesterday though.

Squats went up 295 for 3 (still afraid to go too low, but it seems my back is much much better)

Leg curl was at 170 for 6-3-1 (last time was like 2.5 weeks ago at 150 for 8.)

calf Raise was tuff, i seem to always struggle on those and curls. either way that was at 8 lbs just super slow reps, not basic DC structure. im drinking my waxymaize, i feel GOOOD, **** taste like candy cant wait to get my IDS brand Fruit punch waxy , that **** taste much better the TP waxy.

well thats the update. i think im supposed to give pictures today,... so ill see what i can do. oh yea, and ill make an appt for blood work for next week when i know ill be shut down from the super.
 
ok i suck at pictures and my phone is insufficent, but im getting better at photo shop
 

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Muscles look a lot fuller than the most recent pics. It could be that you're flexing and they're closer shots, but it also looks like solid progress.

Also, it doesn't look like you're holding too much water weight/bloating nor putting on too much fat.
 
Condition1 said:
Muscles look a lot fuller than the most recent pics. It could be that you're flexing and they're closer shots, but it also looks like solid progress.

Also, it doesn't look like you're holding too much water weight/bloating nor putting on too much fat.
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im telling you the light makes a difference lol

i wasnt like flexing hardcore bc when i would try to i was shaking lol and i made a retarted face, granted i blur it out but i juss couldnt do it lol, also the pic with the blured out face (not with the hat) a lil blurry bc i moved a lil.

i definetly feel better, and thanks for the positive words, i never not work hard. im always working hard and taking my rest days, eating right, hell im wakin up at 7 am to drive to school 3 hours early so i can lift shower and get my 2 post work out shakes and 1 post workout meal lol.

this way i dont live off weight gainer shakes for 5 out of 7 meals.

tomorrows diet will look pretty much like this....

cytogainer 7:30am (19.2mg phera,10mg super)
workout around 8-8:15
Waxymaize (with my other goodies) 9:15 or so
Whey Isolate 930-945
Meal (depending on what the school has i may juss get 6 inch subay sandwich with 2-3 sliced of their grilled chicken and olive oil) 10:45 or ill eat it during 11 oclock class
cytogainer 1pm (19.2mg phera)
then ill be home by around 4 PM

then ill eat,

work 5-9
eat a SMALL whey protein and peanutbutter shake at 7

Small meal at 9 30

Shake at 1230.


thats gunna be my tuesday thursday sched, not like you guys care, but some people question diet, but im a ****in freak, i plan things the day before ALWAYS everything i do works around when i need to eat!
 
good day today week 4 day 2 38.4 pp and 10mg sd

Rack chins, 40 lbs for 8-4-2 then 20 with body weight, felt good

underhand bent over row, 175 for 6-7 dont remember i gotta look in my book.

Obar curl 105 for 6 then 65 for 15

real good day today felt strong, i got some cool looking veins coming out, if only they would pop out and look like they are coming out of my skin! lol.

thanks for keeeping up with my ****! im excited!

Bday is in 2 weeks. so hopefully, ill get more PROTEINNNNNNNNNNNNNNN yumm lol
 
Huzzah! now we know why u are not putting on muscle..U need to stop snacking and start eating

Subway after a workout? U serious...

Where is the 4000+calories and complex carbs?

I eat as much as u do now..and I am 4 weeks out from competing..

Even worse u are on cycle and not eating bulk food..Just foolish to be taking all this and not eating.
 
Necromancer said:
Huzzah! now we know why u are not putting on muscle..U need to stop snacking and start eating

Subway after a workout? U serious...

Where is the 4000+calories and complex carbs?

I eat as much as u do now..and I am 4 weeks out from competing..

Even worse u are on cycle and not eating bulk food..Just foolish to be taking all this and not eating.
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subway not after a workout,

waxy maize with BCAAs after a workout, then 30 min later a pure whey isolate shake, an hour after that was a whole weat 6 inch with a little olive oil and 2 peices grilled chicken,

now how is that not good?

you confuse me
 
Necromancer said:
Huzzah! now we know why u are not putting on muscle..U need to stop snacking and start eating

Subway after a workout? U serious...

Where is the 4000+calories and complex carbs?

I eat as much as u do now..and I am 4 weeks out from competing..

Even worse u are on cycle and not eating bulk food..Just foolish to be taking all this and not eating.
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dude do you goto sleep or just wake up unbelievably early?
 
You really do need more cals for what you are taking 4000 would be about right, unless you are cutting and that isn't the best stack for that imo
 
crazyfool405 said:
subway not after a workout,

waxy maize with BCAAs after a workout, then 30 min later a pure whey isolate shake, an hour after that was a whole weat 6 inch with a little olive oil and 2 peices grilled chicken,

now how is that not good?

you confuse me
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I think this is what i asked you multiple times about, what in your diet/ training regiment is lacking.

Try a cup of whole wheat pasta/ brown rice and 2 chicken breast. Subway...you might as well be eating at mcdonalds.

Plus you eat what, 2 meals and 6 shakes a day? Wheres the beef? wheres the chicken? wheres the FOOD?!?!?!
 
crazyfool405 said:
dude do you goto sleep or just wake up unbelievably early?
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Haha! I don't know what made u ask such a question

But yes I do...4.30am I wake up..Stimulant X and Xtend before 45 -50 mins of cardio..Leave for work at 6am.

And I still never goto bed before 10pm.

Now U need a cup and half of oats 1st up..

Followed by every 3 hours..150 gram of cooked pasta/rice/sweet potato..

150-200 grams of chicken/turkey/steak/fish every 3 hours...Throw in alot of vegetables...and
Now
guess what

U will gain size

Shakes are just convenient protein btw meals or when dieting.
 
futurepilot said:
I think this is what i asked you multiple times about, what in your diet/ training regiment is lacking.

Try a cup of whole wheat pasta/ brown rice and 2 chicken breast. Subway...you might as well be eating at mcdonalds.

Plus you eat what, 2 meals and 6 shakes a day? Wheres the beef? wheres the chicken? wheres the FOOD?!?!?!
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i agree whole foods are better,

but when nothing else is open at my school at that time, its the only option i have and its the healthiest option .

but i dont think you can really compare subway and mcdonalds

heres my diet as of yesterday

715 cyctogainer 75g carbs 54 g protein 7 grams fat
9 72g waxymaize 15g BCAAs 400mg cissus 2g CEE
10 30g whey protein isolate
10:50 6 inch whole wheat sub olive oil and grilled chicken 40g carb (6oz chicken) ~40g protein 10-15 g fat
2pm cytogainer 75g carbs 54 g protein 7 g fat small bag of almonds prolly around 10g fat .

5pm 8oz chicken salad with 70g avacado ~40g protein 10g fat
715 PM 3 scoop up your mass 35g protein 42g carb 8g fat.

9 pm small pork chop 35 g protein
12 am shake and PB 47g protein and 16 g fat.

304 carbs (not including incidental carbs) 335g protein (not including incidental) around 70g Fat total calories will be.....
2556 from protein and carbs + 630 from fat.

3186 calories + about 200 from incidental calories. about ~3400 calories, Keep in mind im an endo, and very carb sensitive. i can add more fat in without a problem....

but i really get soft if i eat too many carbs.
 
Necromancer said:
Haha! I don't know what made u ask such a question

But yes I do...4.30am I wake up..Stimulant X and Xtend before 45 -50 mins of cardio..Leave for work at 6am.

And I still never goto bed before 10pm.

Now U need a cup and half of oats 1st up..

Followed by every 3 hours..150 gram of cooked pasta/rice/sweet potato..

150-200 grams of chicken/turkey/steak/fish every 3 hours...Throw in alot of vegetables...and
Now
guess what

U will gain size

Shakes are just convenient protein btw meals or when dieting.
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i know how to eat, but its whats available to me at specific times. i kno nutrition, i know pre contest, im not a veggie eater man, the thought of anything green makes me fart. i mean im up like 8 pounds lol and they arent wet, and theres no apparent bodyfat gain.

id rather eat real food when dieting rather then bulking, you get sick of stuffing your face when you bulk but dieting it gives you that satifying feeling of actually eating lol.

being an endo i shoot for 50g protein 35g carbs and 15g fat every meal, if i eat more carbs, ill drop the fat a little. but i try and keep it a clean lean bulk.
 
crazyfool405 said:
715 cyctogainer 75g carbs 54 g protein 7 grams fat
9 72g waxymaize 15g BCAAs 400mg cissus 2g CEE
10 30g whey protein isolate
10:50 6 inch whole wheat sub olive oil and grilled chicken 40g carb (6oz chicken) ~40g protein 10-15 g fat
2pm cytogainer 75g carbs 54 g protein 7 g fat small bag of almonds prolly around 10g fat .

5pm 8oz chicken salad with 70g avacado ~40g protein 10g fat
715 PM 3 scoop up your mass 35g protein 42g carb 8g fat.

9 pm small pork chop 35 g protein
12 am shake and PB 47g protein and 16 g fat.
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thats still 6 shakes a day man, i dont know, all im saying is you apparently need to eat more too gain, or do something different.

And subway chicken breast is compressed chicken parts, just like McDonalds, if it was slice meat that would be slightly different.
 
Why don't you cook food and carry it with you? I get 1/3 sirloin burgers from Costco and grill them up in batches then carry them with me wherever I go in my hooge soft cooler lunch bag thing. I love my lunch bag....that thing is bada55.
 
SoCo4Fun said:
Why don't you cook food and carry it with you? I get 1/3 sirloin burgers from Costco and grill them up in batches then carry them with me wherever I go in my hooge soft cooler lunch bag thing. I love my lunch bag....that thing is bada55.
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i have 3 straight science classes in a row lol and barely any time in between, ive thought of that,

i dont know why everone has something against shakes, its got the macros you would eat, without all the bulk,.... its easier to drink a shake and take notes then to eat something and take notes.
 
Get some nuts an nibble on them during your classes. They are a very easy,cheap and convenient way of getting in some healthy fats and a bit of protein.
 
Australian made said:
Get some nuts an nibble on them during your classes. They are a very easy,cheap and convenient way of getting in some healthy fats and a bit of protein.
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yea but i cant just have that for 5 hours lol, ill have them with my cytogainer. i can easily add another 300 calories.... i try to give my self a carb cut off, im an endo carb sensitve and get fat reall fast, as adam sandler says "i have a milk shake and my ass juggles for a week" lol
 
U must've done the research...But why would u go on cycle/take steroids..without having the money and the food plan to back it up?...U know the deal..read it on multiple threads on many forums...3 years of hard training and proper nutrition...and preferably no where near 21...Then when u stop gaining u can think about chemicals to help..

I do not see why u are on cycle at this stage..
 
Necromancer said:
U must've done the research...But why would u go on cycle/take steroids..without having the money and the food plan to back it up?...U know the deal..read it on multiple threads on many forums...3 years of hard training and proper nutrition...and preferably no where near 21...Then when u stop gaining u can think about chemicals to help..

I do not see why u are on cycle at this stage..
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i gained what i was able to achieve natrually. i had a hard time goin much over 176 no matter what i ate and getting to 185 was like a miricle to me, but it didnt hold (except for fat that i gained)

you dont have to preach to the choir about age/training/gaining naturally. i know how it all works. when i thought i was ready, i did just that.

as far as the diet, the shakes are there like that on tuesday , not wednesday or friday or the weekends,

Monday im not sure about yet, because i havent had my monday labs yet,

up until this point it was 2-3 shakes and 4-5 meals. only certain days will be certain ways depending on schedualing, i will however keep my morning and post workout shake. and my bedtime shake.

ill have my post workout meal as i drive to school. and i dont have a cooler, sooooooo i think i can blend up food? but keeping it out of the fridge/cold environment till im ready to eat is a little iffy.

i decided not to drive to school 3 hours before my first class just so i can get my pre and post work out shake then eat before class as it seemed to me that i had enough time to workout at my gym. this may make things easier.
O yea yesterday was an opff day soo nothing to really report.

Today is C/S/T

and tomorrow is legs.

ill report back soonish

bc i do not work today, diet wil be different.
 
leg day was gooooooooooooooooooooooood

900 for 3 on leg press, but only 600 for 15 for the WM.

120 on leg curl for 5 (last time was 115 for 5.)

good workout today, im in DC with wifey so i wont be posting too much

feeling good though
 
crazyfool405 said:
subway not after a workout,

waxy maize with BCAAs after a workout, then 30 min later a pure whey isolate shake, an hour after that was a whole weat 6 inch with a little olive oil and 2 peices grilled chicken,

now how is that not good?

you confuse me
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Crazy,
Been reading over your thread. Not to pile on here but you have to eat. I'm 185# and at 4k+ during this bulk. Granted I just competed 6 weeks ago and my metabolism is on fire but still. A subway sub is not bad but you can do better than that. Also, for an endomorph, which you appear to be, the post workout shake is not the best idea. I would just follow your workout with a good solid meal. Here's mine as an example (I train in the AM and I also have a good wholesome meal before training):

3 oz. Ground Beef browned with onion and pepper
6 eggs (2y/6w)
10 oz. Yam/sweet potato (like 1 very large yam or two smaller ones)
30 grams Peanut Butter.

I sip a mega dose of BCAA during my workout with about 1/2 gallon of water.

Just my two cents man...take it if you like.
 
crazyfool405 said:
ive also asked other people not on this thread (ie Jumbo Palumbo) he said the shakes looked ok. but whatever.
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Carry a little cooler with you to class. Pack it with Chicken, lean cuts of beef, almonds and veggies that you can eat with your hands. People may look at you funny but F them!

I work in a professional environment and get stuck in meetings most of the day and I still find a way to scoff down a quick 6 oz. of meat, handfull of nuts and a few spears of brocholi. I have no problem grazing during a meeting.

The Shakes should be a last resort ESSPECIALLY when you're taking an anabolic.

Good thread though Crazy. Keep hitting it hard young bro! I'll just say what my Nona used to say, "Manga, Manga!!!!"
 
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