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Starting H Drol Cycle today

mstupar60 said:
what's the negative's of upping the dose another 25 mgs?
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It's different person to person. Watch your side effects, and maybe take some extra liver support. Have your PCT ready in case there's an adverse effect at 100 and you need to stop early, but I doubt youll have an issue. I took 100 for my 6th week and didnt have an issue.
 
Chevyz28 said:
It's different person to person. Watch your side effects, and maybe take some extra liver support. Have your PCT ready in case there's an adverse effect at 100 and you need to stop early, but I doubt youll have an issue. I took 100 for my 6th week and didnt have an issue.
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I remember people taking 150 mg../ end thread ....100 shouldn't hurt ya but the side effect to gains ratio may change. Just go back to 75 if you encounter any problems
 
Hello Anabolicminds forum friends. I bumped my H drol up to 100 mgs about a week or so ago so I had to purchase one more bottle to finish the 6 week cycle. I have some pills left over to go about 6 weeks and 3 days how do you guys feel about that? Is it okay to do that for a first time cycle?
I will be dosing nolvadex liquid 20/20/10/10, taking cycle assist twice daily still and pct assist once a day? I dont exactly know how to space this all out and not sure if i can take a lot of this together or not. I will be dosing erase 0,0,3,3,2,2,1,1. How should I dose the DAA and should that be started 2 weeks into pct or the first day of pct? Thanks in advance, I just want to make sure I am doing PCT the proper way because I am loving my results and def want to keep the gains!!
 
mstupar60 said:
Hello Anabolicminds forum friends. I bumped my H drol up to 100 mgs about a week or so ago so I had to purchase one more bottle to finish the 6 week cycle. I have some pills left over to go about 6 weeks and 3 days how do you guys feel about that? Is it okay to do that for a first time cycle?
I will be dosing nolvadex liquid 20/20/10/10, taking cycle assist twice daily still and pct assist once a day? I dont exactly know how to space this all out and not sure if i can take a lot of this together or not. I will be dosing erase 0,0,3,3,2,2,1,1. How should I dose the DAA and should that be started 2 weeks into pct or the first day of pct? Thanks in advance, I just want to make sure I am doing PCT the proper way because I am loving my results and def want to keep the gains!!
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Watch the color of your eyes and pee. If your eyes are yellow and your pee is more brown then your liver has had it.otherwise should be "okay" your liver is an amazing organ
 
pyrobatt said:
Watch the color of your eyes and pee. If your eyes are yellow and your pee is more brown then your liver has had it.otherwise should be "okay" your liver is an amazing organ
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I hope he doesn't mean 6 MORE weeks... if so then NO, don't do it, your liver will melt and you will die
 
rayjay said:
I hope he doesn't mean 6 MORE weeks... if so then NO, don't do it, your liver will melt and you will die
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I believe he's talking about 3 days extra.
 
mstupar60 said:
Yes I am talking about just a few more days
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It'll.be fine just don't get greedy with the gains.
 
Sounds good! I actually just want to continue with the cycle because i slacked off for a little bit with food .. ate really bad and put some weight back on the midsection after it was looking really good. I just had a question on when to take all the supports during PCT I have read a lot of threads and a lot of people say different things its given me a headache lol
 
mstupar60 said:
Sounds good! I actually just want to continue with the cycle because i slacked off for a little bit with food .. ate really bad and put some weight back on the midsection after it was looking really good. I just had a question on when to take all the supports during PCT I have read a lot of threads and a lot of people say different things its given me a headache lol
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Supports like daa and erase?
 
Yes DAA, erase, cycle assit, pct assist, nolva .. I want to take the nolva first thing when I wake up in the morning 20 mg first 2 weeks. Can I take my cycle assist and pct assist along with the nolva? and then when would it be best to take the erase and DAA?
 
mstupar60 said:
Yes DAA, erase, cycle assit, pct assist, nolva .. I want to take the nolva first thing when I wake up in the morning 20 mg first 2 weeks. Can I take my cycle assist and pct assist along with the nolva? and then when would it be best to take the erase and DAA?
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Take nolva and daa with something like juice or something sour because of the taste.. They can be taken at the same time . Erase should be spread out. Dosing should be like this or similar

Nolva 20mg first 2 weeks and 10 for 2 more.daa should be at 3g throughout the 4 weeks and you can continue taking it after. Erase should be at 3 when you start pct. Then 2 then 2 then 1 weeks1-4
 
Thanks alot! Why do some people start erase week 3 of pct? and the cycle assist/pct assist can be taken 4 hours after SERM?
 
mstupar60 said:
Thanks alot! Why do some people start erase week 3 of pct? and the cycle assist/pct assist can be taken 4 hours after SERM?
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That I have no idea.Maybe to tapper off of erase on weeks 5 and 6 just to make sure estrogen rebound doesn't happen.You can take the serm and the assist at the same time in my opinion.Do NOT take them with a ph.Wait 4 hours after to assure absorbsion.
 
okay thanks, yea I have been taking the h drol 2 pills 4 hours later i take my cycle assist, then h drol another 4 hours later then cycle assist again. I also take my fish oil with my h drol
 
Not sure if it's still relevant, but my cycle was 75/75/75/100/100/100/100... I threw in the extra week because I still had half a bottle left so with no sides apart from back pumps and sore joints, I would just use it up. My cycle was mainly a recomp, gained roughly 7-8lbs and lost roughly 2-4% body fat bringing me down to roughly 9% from 12-13ish..

The only thing I started to notice at 100mg which was different to 75 in relation to sides, my joints were a little more stiff than usual. I dosed taurine at roughly 20g a day (starting at 5g a day, but found it was waaaay too low) and split it into 2-3 doses depending on when my back felt bad. I'm taking 9g of fish oil a day, but as I said, it was nothing that would stop me doing it again, just made putting my gym socks on kinda awkward lol!!

Edit: Oh yeah, and I'm not an enormous guy, I'm roughly 78kg or 175lbs? (i think). So some would argue that my dose was high!!
 
Damorgs said:
Not sure if it's still relevant, but my cycle was 75/75/75/100/100/100/100... I threw in the extra week because I still had half a bottle left so with no sides apart from back pumps and sore joints, I would just use it up. My cycle was mainly a recomp, gained roughly 7-8lbs and lost roughly 2-4% body fat bringing me down to roughly 9% from 12-13ish..

The only thing I started to notice at 100mg which was different to 75 in relation to sides, my joints were a little more stiff than usual. I dosed taurine at roughly 20g a day (starting at 5g a day, but found it was waaaay too low) and split it into 2-3 doses depending on when my back felt bad. I'm taking 9g of fish oil a day, but as I said, it was nothing that would stop me doing it again, just made putting my gym socks on kinda awkward lol!!

Edit: Oh yeah, and I'm not an enormous guy, I'm roughly 78kg or 175lbs? (i think). So some would argue that my dose was high!!
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The only reason I'm a huge Guy is cause I'm 6'5. I have to put on a lot more muscle than smaller guys to look big :) 175 is pretty good for the average person
 
I have put on 8 pounds so far and thanks for all the advice. My cycle starting like this 50/75/75/75/100/100/ and half of week 7 at 100!
 
mstupar60 said:
Thanks alot! Why do some people start erase week 3 of pct? and the cycle assist/pct assist can be taken 4 hours after SERM?
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Depending on ur cycle. If u are shutdown u dont produce any hormones, test or estro. So about 2 weeks or so into pct, hopfully u start back up, and then need to protect from rebound
 
How is it on the hair, how managable r hdrol gains after pct. Is that 8lb including a bit of retention? Can hdrol sta k with sd?
Just wondering,
 
well I am running h drol for about 6 and a half weeks.PCT starts up Sunday. I will be dosing my liquid tomaxifen spelling? in the morning at 20/20/10/10 along with my cycle assist 4 caps, and then 4 hours later i will be dosing 3 caps daa w/ cycle assist and pct assist. Week 3 I should throw in some erase ? 0/0/3/3/2/2/1/1? Or do I do the erase right off the bat 3/3/2/2/1/1?
 
murk01 said:
How is it on the hair, how managable r hdrol gains after pct. Is that 8lb including a bit of retention? Can hdrol sta k with sd?
Just wondering,
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I have not experienced any hair loss if that is what you are asking? The gains are all rock hard lean mass! I posted pre h drol photos and will be posting new photos in a week or so! My goal at the beginning was to gain a lot of mass but about a week in I changed my mind and just wanted to put on a little mass and lose some bf.
 
mstupar60 said:
well I am running h drol for about 6 and a half weeks.PCT starts up Sunday. I will be dosing my liquid tomaxifen spelling? in the morning at 20/20/10/10 along with my cycle assist 4 caps, and then 4 hours later i will be dosing 3 caps daa w/ cycassist and pct assist. Week 3 I should throw in some erase ? 0/0/3/3/2/2/1/1? Or do I do the erase right off the bat 3/3/2/2/1/1?
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Nah, no erase if u got tomaxfin on hand. Erase is just a nother ai, doubling up might be painfull. U can use erase if u want to countinue ur pct into a natty cycle. I think what u have lined up for pct is good.

Hdrol doesnt require clomid?
 
Alright, since I dont need the erase because I am using a SERM, can I still start using it when I taper down on the SERM? so week three in pct when i go down to 10mg SERM, since I am doing 20/20/10/10. I can start it at 3 caps a day then? so week 1 and 2 ... 0 caps then 3/3/2/2/1/1/?
 
mstupar60 said:
Alright, since I dont need the erase because I am using a SERM, can I still start using it when I taper down on the SERM? so week three in pct when i go down to 10mg SERM, since I am doing 20/20/10/10. I can start it at 3 caps a day then? so week 1 and 2 ... 0 caps then 3/3/2/2/1/1/?
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Cant be 100%on this. If u continue with daa or another natty booster, yes. But u dont want to get carried away.
So if stop with the nolva and keep runin thdaa for another 3-4 weeks u can do erase, 3/3/2/2.I think erase is suicidal so dont really need to taper off.

Are u prone to estro problems? If not dont worry to much, low to no estro is bad, joint pain, no erection, libido.
 
ponysteak said:
My hair was thinner running hdrol at 75mg, but it thickened right back up after the cycle was over.
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Experience the same. Almost came back even better than it was for me lol

Sent from my super duper VS920 4G using Am.com app!
 
pyrobatt said:
The only reason I'm a huge Guy is cause I'm 6'5. I have to put on a lot more muscle than smaller guys to look big :) 175 is pretty good for the average person
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I think the trick is, once you get some decent muscle mass, the lower your body fat the bigger you look. You need to build that muscle first and then shred out to look bigger. I know mates who are 90kg and clearly bigger and lifting more than me, but because they are higher body fat they don't look as buff as they should get credit for.. curious and curiouser :D
 
Damorgs said:
I think the trick is, once you get some decent muscle mass, the lower your body fat the bigger you look. You need to build that muscle first and then shred out to look bigger. I know mates who are 90kg and clearly bigger and lifting more than me, but because they are higher body fat they don't look as buff as they should get credit for.. curious and curiouser :D
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I'm at 8 % in my AV picture so this is true. The pic in my cjc log is me at around 11 or 12
 
pyrobatt said:
I'm at 8 % in my AV picture so this is true. The pic in my cjc log is me at around 11 or 12
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Yeah, you have the physique that I'm chasing in that pic..(or everyone on this forum for that matter lol)

I'm going to stick around 10-11% and try to lean bulk over summer. I'll do some serious bulking next year ready for next summer... I don't want to put on too much bodyfat, maybe 12-13% at most. I would prefer to look a little cut and take it a little slower than have my weight up and down like a yo-yo.

When I start pinning next year **** will get reeaaalll interesting lol :D
 
Damorgs said:
Yeah, you have the physique that I'm chasing in that pic..(or everyone on this forum for that matter lol)

I'm going to stick around 10-11% and try to lean bulk over summer. I'll do some serious bulking next year ready for next summer... I don't want to put on too much bodyfat, maybe 12-13% at most. I would prefer to look a little cut and take it a little slower than have my weight up and down like a yo-yo.

When I start pinning next year **** will get reeaaalll interesting lol :D
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You and me both brother. I'm going to pin soon too
 
Damorgs said:
What are you thinking for your first pin cycle? Test e and dbol/sd or deca for a kicker? Or going straight to something a little stronger?
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Test cyp and winny.Cut cycle.I'll continue to pin cjc and igf1 like i'm currently doing.
 
mstupar60 said:
Hey everyone,

I was on here about 6 month's ago and everyone told me that I am not ready to run a cycle yet and I should
go do some more research. Well I feel like I have done enough research and I am ready for it. However,
I would still really appreciate your inputs because this is my first time using a PH

I am 5'10 and weigh 180 lbs, I am looking to gain about 10 to 15 pounds and lean out.
I am shooting for 180 to 200 grams of protein, 3000 to 4000 calories, and not too sure about carbs.

I did a week of pre laoding with milk thistle, hawthorn berry, and omega 3 complex.

H drol cycle 50/75/75/75/75/75 or depending on sides I might end at 5 weeks or run 100 mg week 6.
Protex cycle assist & liver support ( 4 hours after each H Drol dose)
Omega Complex Fish oil ( 3 pills every time with H Drol dose)
extra Milk Thistle
Multi Vitamin
Glucosamine

Post cycle:
Nolvadex 20/20/10/10
Protex cycle assist
Erase Pro
Omega Complex Fish oil
multi
glucosamine
milk thistle

I dont really have a complete routine in the gym since I just finished my college soccer season. I was thinking M biceps, triceps, T(back, chest, shoulders) W(legs and cardio) Thur (biceps, triceps) F (back, chest, shoulders), Sat (legs) Sun(day off)

Input is great appreciated! Let me know what you guys think
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you only need 40 to 50 mg a day for h drol dude
 
bgmike20 said:
you only need 40 to 50 mg a day for h drol dude
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Say what? I think most would agree hdrol doesn't really fire up until 75mg.. For me it was great at 100mg ed for 4 weeks....
 
I start PCT tomorrow, here is my schedule.

Week 1 and 2
am Serm: Liquid Tamox 20 mg's
DAA 4 caps?
pct assist
cycle assist

Should I dose all of this at the same time in the morning or should I space out the cycle assist/pct assist/DAA?
I also want to take a Creatine "Cell mass", but I will take that post work out.

Week 3 and 4
upon waking up Serm 10 mg's
cycle assist
pct assist
DAA
Erase 3 caps

I will be doing erase week 3-8 3/3/2/2/1/1

Can I take all of these supports at once? and should I be taking PCT assist, cycle assist, and DAA twice?
 
mstupar60 said:
I start PCT tomorrow, here is my schedule.

Week 1 and 2
am Serm: Liquid Tamox 20 mg's
DAA 4 caps?
pct assist
cycle assist

Should I dose all of this at the same time in the morning or should I space out the cycle assist/pct assist/DAA?
I also want to take a Creatine "Cell mass", but I will take that post work out.

Week 3 and 4
upon waking up Serm 10 mg's
cycle assist
pct assist
DAA
Erase 3 caps

I will be doing erase week 3-8 3/3/2/2/1/1

Can I take all of these supports at once? and should I be taking PCT assist, cycle assist, and DAA twice?
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Daa is once a day and the cycle support is 2x generaly. There are also better options for pct assist than pct assist. Like the active extreme and forma stack ill be trying eventually
 
Thanks! Should I take the serm alone in the am ? and then 4 hours later take my cycle assist/ pct assist, and fish oil. then 4 hours after that take daa. Then 4 hours later take the fish oil, cycle assist, and pct assist.. Is it alright if i am dosing my serm at 20/20/10/10 if I am going to start up erase at week 3? I heard people say that if you are doing serm 40/40/20/20 erase is not needed.
 
mstupar60 said:
activate xtreme, can I do that t boost right after PCT?
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Serms raise shgb. More benefits if used during pct because it binds to shbg.
 
mstupar60 said:
Could I order it now? And then start it and discontinue pct assist when I get it?
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You can take them both but yeah if that floats your boat
 
kateean2 said:
what about for the libido?
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Get some cialis on hand for when the moments right*water fall in back ground*...if your having mechanical issues that is. I'm on trenazone andro hard and stano. My libido is still shot even with those 2 dhts in there haha. My gf is not complaining so....its all good
 
would bulgarian tribulus help with that? My libido is not shot, I can still get it up but its still not back to full length so to speak lol. I heard the DAA helps with that, and wont the activate xtreme help with this ?
 
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