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Stano-200 solo cycle questions

JohnnyCage

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I've been on EC Stack for about 2 months, took my last dose monday (4/21/14).

Someone said this would be better than EC and very mild compared to other PH. I was reccomended a 600mg per day 6 week cycle.

My Questions:
1.Being that this is non methly I was informed Liver support is not needed DURING the cycle, all I need is to run LGI Rehab for my PCT.
To be safe I ordered some Hawthorne Berry And MRM Liver X which I will dose at 3g per day and 4 caps of MRM Liver X, anything else I should take? and at what dose? I`m ordering everything now and plan to go 1 week with the hawthorne berry and liver x, and what ever you guys reccomend then the follow week start the Stano-200. I was told avoid saw palmetto as this will be counterproductive since it blocks DHT.

2. with this being mild am I good jumping out the gate with 600mg a day or should I do 400mg wk1, 600 wk2-6? I assume this is taken on empty stomach? I see dosages should be spaced about 8 hrs. I workout at night (8pm) and see some people take this preworkout, would I be fine doing 1st Dose 8am (when I wake, 1-2caps), 2nd dose 4pm (1cap)?

3.I hear you shouldnt use any other supps besides Multi,Fish,Whey (along with any liver support you may need), so I assume discontinue use of my Hemavol X Green Mag stack preworkout (these are non stim), and discontinue use of Xtend intra (BCAA)?

4.Diet wise should I continue to eat at a deficit? I want to lean out (drop BF) and keep mass (any muscle gained is fine but not a big deal).
Macros are 3000 Cal :225-250 protein, 100-110 fat, whatever is left on carbs.

I ordered 2 bottles of Stano-200 and LGI Rehab, anything else I need to know?

thank you all for any help you can provide.
 
You really aren't going to see much of anything from just stano.

Maybe some strength and muscle hardness... As well as MPB and prostate problems if you're prone.
 
acethetics said:
You really aren't going to see much of anything from just stano.

Maybe some strength and muscle hardness... As well as MPB and prostate problems if you're prone.
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Baldness and prostate stuff isn't big in my fam, and isn't this the PH with the least sides? Lol I assume that was a joke as to me not seeing much from this besides possible sides.

As mentioned goal is the lean up, I'm not interested in muscle gain because I have a ton of mass already just on the last stretch of leaning out and someone recommended this. If I gain mass that's fine but like I said goal is to lean/tighten up.
 
Those drying/hardening effects will be gone as soon as you stop. That would be kind of annoying if your still dieting beyond that time. You'll look great and then stop Stano and then back to reality.

Might as well take diuretics and Cialis and save the suppression. Kidding. ;)
 
blacklac said:
Those drying/hardening effects will be gone as soon as you stop. That would be kind of annoying if your still dieting beyond that time. You'll look great and then stop Stano and then back to reality.

Might as well take diuretics and Cialis and save the suppression. Kidding. ;)
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lol :(, dang bro, I thought the PCT would help keep some of that at least. I assume by "go away" you're referring to my body holding water like normal again?
 
Stano is used to complement other PH/DS cycles by offsetting sides like lethargy and loss of libido...

It really does nothing in terms of gains, especially in the long term.

Just save the stano until you decide to run a PH, like halo or epi
 
You need to run it 800-1200mg to see anything. It is a dht derivative therefore it is meant for hardening and moderate drying out and strength. You will not see much muscle mass , or any at all, packed on using stano.

Why not just use injectable.... Honestly they're safer than any designer when used properly and when you have a decent source.
 
Main reason I was looking to do stano is that it's non methly and seemed "the lesser evil"

I'm not looking to compete so doing injectibles would be an investment with no real benefit to me when it comes to money put in and stuff. Lol sheesh I assume all the PHs worth a crap are methly and I didn't want to mess with any of that liver toxic stuff honestly. :(

So 600mg of stano is as good as taking bio grow or some crap lol
 
Some 1-DHEA would go well with Stano. Maybe look into that.
 
JohnnyCage said:
Main reason I was looking to do stano is that it's non methly and seemed "the lesser evil"

I'm not looking to compete so doing injectibles would be an investment with no real benefit to me when it comes to money put in and stuff. Lol sheesh I assume all the PHs worth a crap are methly and I didn't want to mess with any of that liver toxic stuff honestly. :(

So 600mg of stano is as good as taking bio grow or some crap lol
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Might as well just stay natty.
 
acethetics said:
Stano is used to complement other PH/DS cycles by offsetting sides like lethargy and loss of libido...

It really does nothing in terms of gains, especially in the long term.

Just save the stano until you decide to run a PH, like halo or epi
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This! Hdrol and stano was great! Libido and lethargy were great on cycle I loved it... That said if you just want the leaning without sides why not run c20 or anabeta elite or just a natty till you're in for a real cycle? Stano is not going to be better than EC
 
blacklac said:
Some 1-DHEA would go well with Stano. Maybe look into that.
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Thanks for the recommendation going to look this up tonight, is this non methal? Excuse the elementary nature of the question, this is all new to me so I look it up as you guys give info.
 
Yeah, its non methyl. Check out Forerunner Labs Alpha Mass. AMS and Finaflex have some DHEA products too.



I have high bilirubin, so I try to avoid liver toxic stuff. Not really sure of any other liver friendly orals that are better for the $. Nutraplanet just had Alpha Mass for like $26/bottle.
 
blacklac said:
Yeah, its non methyl. Check out Forerunner Labs Alpha Mass. AMS and Finaflex have some DHEA products too.



I have high bilirubin, so I try to avoid liver toxic stuff. Not really sure of any other liver friendly orals that are better for the $. Nutraplanet just had Alpha Mass for like $26/bottle.
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What type of dosing would you reccomend with Stano? And with me cutting what can I expect result wise?

Being that this is non methly am I fine running MRM Liver x during the cycle to be safe and LGI Rehab as a PCT? I ask because I already ordered all of this
 
thanks to who ever rec the Alpha Mass from Nutraplanet!


So this is what I`m looking to do.
Even though Stano and Alpha Mass are Non Methly I will be taking MRM Liver X and Hawthorne Berry for 2 weeks.
Plan on doing a 6 week Cycle (will still be taking MRM Liver X and Hawthorne Berry daily)
3 Alpha Mass / 2 Stano-200 in the am (About 8am)
3 Alpha Mass/ 1 Stano-200 in the PM (About 4 or 5 pm)
6 Week PCT using LGI Rehab (will still be taking MRM Liver X and Hawthorne Berry daily)

Will still be using my normal Whey, Orange Triad, and Oximega fish oil (4 caps a day)

Is it necessary to discontinue use of Green Mag (Creatine), hemavol, and BCAAs (Intraworkout, switch between Xtend and amino build) during the cycle and resume use during PCT?
I`m going to be cutting at 3000 calories with about 225-230 protein, 100-110 Fat, Rest Carbs. I assume the Alpha Mass may add some Muscle Mass (about how much can I expect?) and strength and the Stano will lean me out.

I expect to lose some of the muscle when I get off and maybe lose the driness, but realistically what can I expect to stay?

Thank you all for your help.
 
Mystere3 said:
Again think furaza would be a better choice.
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Thanks, I already ordered the stuff though. With this being a mild stack do you guys think I should half dose for the first week? (3alphamass/2stano) in the AM and then the dose I mentioned for the other 5 weeks (3/2, 3/1)?

I know I can't compare this to preworkout stims which have no impact on me, and I`m pretty big so I`m just wondering.
 
JohnnyCage said:
Thanks, I already ordered the stuff though. With this being a mild stack do you guys think I should half dose for the first week? (3alphamass/2stano) in the AM and then the dose I mentioned for the other 5 weeks (3/2, 3/1)?

I know I can't compare this to preworkout stims which have no impact on me, and I`m pretty big so I`m just wondering.
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I'd start stano at 800 mg... It's not going to do anything at 400. You'll probably end up bumping to 1000 after a couple weeks
 
Seems I`m getting some conflicting Info, I guess people can only speak on their own experiences.

What do you guys think of LGI 11-x ( this is a 11-oxo clone correct me if I`m wrong) stacked with Stano 200?

And is a SERM Really needed? Seems this stuff gets more and more complicated and you might as will run AAS which I do not want to do. lol damn I might just return this stuff in general.
 
JohnnyCage said:
Seems I`m getting some conflicting Info, I guess people can only speak on their own experiences. What do you guys think of LGI 11-x ( this is a 11-oxo clone correct me if I`m wrong) stacked with Stano 200? And is a SERM Really needed? Seems this stuff gets more and more complicated and you might as will run AAS which I do not want to do. lol damn I might just return this stuff in general.
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Listen. Hormones are hormones. It's not complicated. Also 11-oxo can be suppressive at doses more than 600mgs. Serms are to be safe, no serm for cycle, that's what I believe in.

Also it's complicated but
You want to cover each side or every possible roadblock that you could encounter. That's why we take all these measures and plan the cycle effectively before doing anything.
 
EatMoar said:
Listen. Hormones are hormones. It's not complicated. Also 11-oxo can be suppressive at doses more than 600mgs. Serms are to be safe, no serm for cycle, that's what I believe in.

Also it's complicated but
You want to cover each side or every possible roadblock that you could encounter. That's why we take all these measures and plan the cycle effectively before doing anything.
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Definitely bro, I thank you all for the help, lol I'm going to return all these items when they come in, honestly I feel like with all the stuff you have to do I might as well jump on real deal AAS. Thank you all for the help I def plan on researching more stuff in general though.
 
Some people are dead set on not using serms because they don't want to find them, or are convinced they don't need them. I'd always have it on hand for ph but lots of people would day otherwise for stano and could fight about it on forums all day. I think you're making the right call if you're going to return though! I just don't think this is going to do what you want and if it does it'll go away as soon as you end the cycle. Stano is a great add on but a 6 or 8 week cycle at the dose to run to make it worth it will add up in cost very quick, now if you were running it with epi(with cycle support) you'd probably get what you wanted out of it but at that point you're going to run quadruple your tab and then some probably lol.
 
bono1132 said:
Some people are dead set on not using serms because they don't want to find them, or are convinced they don't need them. I'd always have it on hand for ph but lots of people would day otherwise for stano and could fight about it on forums all day. I think you're making the right call if you're going to return though! I just don't think this is going to do what you want and if it does it'll go away as soon as you end the cycle. Stano is a great add on but a 6 or 8 week cycle at the dose to run to make it worth it will add up in cost very quick, now if you were running it with epi(with cycle support) you'd probably get what you wanted out of it but at that point you're going to run quadruple your tab and then some probably lol.
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exactly, I thank you all for the help, just at this point I dont think its for me yet.
 
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