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Guts

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I am combining M1,4AD and M1T, I know this stuff isn't the real deal but what kind of real steroid dosage does it compare to?
Both seem to be precursors to Dianabol so I assume the mass gains should be decent. Any input appreciated.
 
M1T is very very harsh on your liver and very toxic in general i really don't think its a good idea/safe to combine it with another methylated compound M1t on its own or stacked with 4ad to combat the sides is very potent on its own
 
M1-t is a steroid, it requires no conversion, and stacking it with another methyl is asking for serious health risks. Pick one of them, and run it solo or with other non-mehtylated ph's.
 
From a post here that I can't be bothered to find for you, Supersoldier ran M1T and M14ADD at the same time and discovered that this is pretty much the worst combination you can possibly run in terms of screwing up your liver and lipid profile. Maybe try 1-test in a transdermal or 1-test cyp, but do not run M1T + M14ADD. Period.
 
Strateg0s said:
From a post here that I can't be bothered to find for you, Supersoldier ran M1T and M14ADD at the same time and discovered that this is pretty much the worst combination you can possibly run in terms of screwing up your liver and lipid profile. Maybe try 1-test in a transdermal or 1-test cyp, but do not run M1T + M14ADD. Period.
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I didn't realize (legal) supplements such as these could be that toxic.
 
Well, they can be. But it is good that you are smart enough to ask for good advice before plowing ahead. These things work very well, but you have to be sensible about them. This is pretty much the best forum on the internet for discussion of prohormones. Before you finalize your decision on what you plan to take, run it by the people here, we'll give you good advice.
 
what's your goals? concerned about safety, hair...? there are some sites that outline what each ph does and you can pick which one fits your goals.
 
Also what are your basic stats, what is your training and diet like?

ManBeast
 
I take in about 200 to 250 grams of protein and train hardcore as hell. I weigh around 180 with maybe 9 to 11% body fat,guessing, I want to put on as much mass as possible, not so worried about the cuts right now and as long as it don't kill me im fine with the cycle. If what the anabolic freak takes dosen't kill him(muscular development) then a few stacks of prohormones sure ain't gonna kill me.:rofl:
 
Guts said:
If what the anabolic freak takes dosen't kill him(muscular development) then a few stacks of prohormones sure ain't gonna kill me.:rofl:
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Sounds a little ignorant to me. Do you have any AAS experience? M1T is AAS, it will probably be the only PH that will continue to be used illegally after the ban hits. It also greatly affects lipid profiles, while I will admit I don't entirely understand the exact effects, it lowers HDL (cholestorol) to scary levels, which, if continued, can/will result in serious heart complications i.e. shortend life.

Don't take this **** lightly, it ksn't creatine.

cm5
 
I guess ill try the 1test and 4AD transdermal and see what happens, everybody seems to think that is the ticket.
thanks
 
Are the prohoromones really that dangers??? seems like yall are way over cautios, but maybe thats because iv never taken any of these new ones but from what i remember of taking 600mg 19nor diol and 600mg classic andro was that i only got pissy and didnt gain much. Like how would you compare the sides to real juice like say 75mg ed of tren? Im running 500test and 75 tren ed and the only sides i have right now are sweats and lowered HDL. my blood preasure is ok and everything else is in check. Oh yeah i forgot like every other day i have a few hairs fall out. Now is this the kind of sides you speak of or are they much milder because everything i have read about this new M1 and M1t seems like they have the sides of anadrol and tren at high dosages? Let me know
 
Im getting my M1T at Underground labs and my 4AD transdermal at Legal gear.
Do you know if these are good companies?

Im with you man, I never thought prohormones were that serious of a deal but Ill guess we'll see after this cycle.
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I think the majority of the time prohormones/prosteroids are fine if you use them properly, but just because it has potential to seriously screw you up, its way more dangerous than some creatine or any other supplement like that, cause you can't screw up with creatine. Plus nobody knows long term effects of prohormones cause they were created pretty recently. I plan on just doing a few cycles to get to where I wanna be at, and just maintain it. I think you start running into problems and start wearing the internals if you do multiple cycles a year for many years.
 
yeah im with you darius, im starting to get worried about my heart getting to big from the sauce. Iv ran more cycles than i can count and i just got off a ten month cycle and im only 22. My Education is all about health to so i know what im doing to my body and i know i only have a few more years of cycles before i cause long term damage. Im gona try to be completely off the juice by age 25, hopefully ill reach my goas before then though.
 
rippednick said:
Are the prohoromones really that dangers??? seems like yall are way over cautios, but maybe thats because iv never taken any of these new ones but from what i remember of taking 600mg 19nor diol and 600mg classic andro was that i only got pissy and didnt gain much. Like how would you compare the sides to real juice like say 75mg ed of tren? Im running 500test and 75 tren ed and the only sides i have right now are sweats and lowered HDL. my blood preasure is ok and everything else is in check. Oh yeah i forgot like every other day i have a few hairs fall out. Now is this the kind of sides you speak of or are they much milder because everything i have read about this new M1 and M1t seems like they have the sides of anadrol and tren at high dosages? Let me know
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Again as stated by myself and others M1T IS NOT A PROHORMONE!! It is a STEROID, it just happens to be legal. All of these new methylated prohormones can and will cause damage if not used properly. M1t is one of the harshest of all steroids, and needs to be taken seriously. Blood work should always be taken when using any of these androgenic substances for safety purposes.
 
ryansm said:
Again as stated by myself and others M1T IS NOT A PROHORMONE!! It is a STEROID, it just happens to be legal. All of these new methylated prohormones can and will cause damage if not used properly. M1t is one of the harshest of all steroids, and needs to be taken seriously. Blood work should always be taken when using any of these androgenic substances for safety purposes.
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