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Killed arms and shoulders today
Scale went up 5 lbs and don't know why, pissed ATM and I checked twice
Will recheck Friday and I know could be anything but still pisses me off
 
Bigdumogre said:
Killed arms and shoulders today
Scale went up 5 lbs and don't know why, pissed ATM and I checked twice
Will recheck Friday and I know could be anything but still pisses me off
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Best thing to do is eat at least 4 hours before you go to sleep to get an accurate weight in in the morning, see if that help!
 
Bigdumogre said:
Killed arms and shoulders today
Scale went up 5 lbs and don't know why, pissed ATM and I checked twice
Will recheck Friday and I know could be anything but still pisses me off
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hold on bro- 5 bs lets not forget muscle weighs more than fat- which we know- are your lifts going up?
 
Bigdumogre said:
Lifts are going up and look bigger
But still :(
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yea, i hear ya

but this is the samething i told my parents and ex when they went to WW for the weekly wiegh in. They starve themselves the night before and get on the scale the next morning.

WW does not take into account any increase of wgt that is caused by muscle. Which is a F joking- by the last pic, certainly not fat in any means. let it ride out and dont fixate on it.
 
Dude, I jump up and down 10-12lbs most days depending what time I weigh myself and how I feel... 5lb isnt even a drop in the ocean
 
Just a little breakfast tip for those who are trying to lean out especially. No carbs, fat and protein as you are in fat burn when you wake up and you want to ride that out. Save the carbs for the meals that follow your workout. MCT's in your first meal is great. I used eggs and egg whites if I am eating am but lean meats fried in coconut oil is also highly recommended.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Just a little breakfast tip for those who are trying to lean out especially. No carbs, fat and protein as you are in fat burn when you wake up and you want to ride that out. Save the carbs for the meals that follow your workout. MCT's in your first meal is great. I used eggs and egg whites if I am eating am but lean meats fried in coconut oil is also highly recommended.
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Yes sir. Live by this. I do it all year round, no matter what.
 
jmyers said:
Yes sir. Live by this. I do it all year round, no matter what.
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Yah really helped me. There are vids showing that people on IF are going into Ketosis even with a fairly high card diet. Shows that you are in fat burn early in the day even if you backload carbs. Only makes sense to just try and stay there.
 
I've been carb back-loading since November 2012. Did tons of research and it made absolute sense. Your body is primed to utilize the nutrients correctly
 
DreamWeaver said:
Just a little breakfast tip for those who are trying to lean out especially. No carbs, fat and protein as you are in fat burn when you wake up and you want to ride that out. Save the carbs for the meals that follow your workout. MCT's in your first meal is great. I used eggs and egg whites if I am eating am but lean meats fried in coconut oil is also highly recommended.
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You just killed my oats and protein breakfast lol
 
3 Whole Eggs and 3 Egg whites, is my breakfast every day after following IF 16/8, some times i add 30% reduced fat cheddar, i will keep it running like this when bulking only eat carbs after i workout, how is carb backloading, is it the better option to use to phase out of ketosis to lean bulk.
 
Carb back-loading is pretty much a life style diet. Keeps you lean while making lean gains. It's back-loading your carbs postworkout only. Absolutely no carbs prior to working out.
 
alfeer said:
Subbbd....

One question: what's the protocol your running, any OCT or PCT/SERM?
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I'm going to bridge into epi andro and osta afterwards for a month then pct with clomid
With Sparta lean no pct is needed at 2 caps a day.

Must say the fat on my chest is going down and that is super stubborn. Sparta nutrition you have a winner here so far will get 2 bottles in the future and dose higher

Today in doing chest and back in the am then legs pm
Changing it up a little due too knee pain
 
Bigdumogre said:
I'm going to bridge into epi andro and osta afterwards for a month then pct with clomid
With Sparta lean no pct is needed at 2 caps a day.

Must say the fat on my chest is going down and that is super stubborn. Sparta nutrition you have a winner here so far will get 2 bottles in the future and dose higher

Today in doing chest and back in the am then legs pm
Changing it up a little due too knee pain
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Ma again....

So, all these good things and results. I have to ask, what's the catch? What are the drawbacks of using this?

Also, they said that Ostarine doesn't need a pct (or a light one) but when I went into it I had to do a proper PCT. would like your comments, as I'm really considering this.

Our beach season just started and need help with 5 very stubborn KGs
 
alfeer said:
Ma again....

So, all these good things and results. I have to ask, what's the catch? What are the drawbacks of using this?

Also, they said that Ostarine doesn't need a pct (or a light one) but when I went into it I had to do a proper PCT. would like your comments, as I'm really considering this.

Our beach season just started and need help with 5 very stubborn KGs
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Well there are side effects for these products that vary per individual and Ostarine varies per individual too, some get very little suppression while some totally loose their libido and get supressed hard. There is a thread on SARMs with layouts included, I know you asked him but I'm just dropping my 2 cents :D.
 
alfeer said:
Ma again....

So, all these good things and results. I have to ask, what's the catch? What are the drawbacks of using this?

Also, they said that Ostarine doesn't need a pct (or a light one) but when I went into it I had to do a proper PCT. would like your comments, as I'm really considering this.

Our beach season just started and need help with 5 very stubborn KGs
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Personally, I always do a proper PCT (maybe a little shorter depending on the compound). If I am using stuff that is going to take my body out of homeostasis hormonally, I want to get back there as quickly and efficiently (and safely) as possible.
That being said, Ostarine was very gentle for me, and though I didn't feel any adverse side effects I still PCT'd to be on the safe side. Ostarine and Dermacrine was a great cycle for me, with respect to what you are looking for.
Sparta Lean seems to be helping people do exactly what you are looking to do, so that may very well be an avenue to pursue. I say "seem" only because I haven't had the opportunity to run it yet, so I am going by the information provided in the logs thus far. I am logging Cerberus and am really enjoying it, and seeing definite body composition changes.
Another important consideration is that diet will determine what a compound or series of compounds will do for you. If you are looking to lean out, then your diet needs to reflect that. No product will fix a broken diet.
 
Bigdumogre I woke up 3lbs. heavier today as well. Ate 500 cals under maint last 3 days, sodium within 200mg of daily goal, carbs around 200. So don't be discouraged. Screw the scale, the mirror tells me good things.
 
clown007 said:
Personally, I always do a proper PCT (maybe a little shorter depending on the compound). If I am using stuff that is going to take my body out of homeostasis hormonally, I want to get back there as quickly and efficiently (and safely) as possible.
That being said, Ostarine was very gentle for me, and though I didn't feel any adverse side effects I still PCT'd to be on the safe side. Ostarine and Dermacrine was a great cycle for me, with respect to what you are looking for.
Sparta Lean seems to be helping people do exactly what you are looking to do, so that may very well be an avenue to pursue. I say "seem" only because I haven't had the opportunity to run it yet, so I am going by the information provided in the logs thus far. I am logging Cerberus and am really enjoying it, and seeing definite body composition changes.
Another important consideration is that diet will determine what a compound or series of compounds will do for you. If you are looking to lean out, then your diet needs to reflect that. No product will fix a broken diet.
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Mentioned ostarin just as an example. Wanted to know what type of PCt OCt us needed and if there are any negative sides.

Diet has been very clean for a while now 5-6 weeks. As they 6 pack is made in the kitchen!

Also how would this interact with occasional alcohol consumption. Red wine and bourbon are kinda my favorite.

Thanks guys for all the help
 
alfeer said:
Mentioned ostarin just as an example. Wanted to know what type of PCt OCt us needed and if there are any negative sides.

Diet has been very clean for a while now 5-6 weeks. As they 6 pack is made in the kitchen!

Also how would this interact with occasional alcohol consumption. Red wine and bourbon are kinda my favorite.

Thanks guys for all the help
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Totally. I referred to ostarine only to show how we each respond differently to different compounds.

I think you will find the consensus is no alcohol on cycle. If you would like to partake in the alcohol don't go on cycle. Just taxing your body even more.

As for PCT there is a thread by Yates that has all the information you could ever want. It is a pretty active thread so should be easy to search for.

Hope this helps.
 
smith_69 said:
hold on bro- 5 bs lets not forget muscle weighs more than fat- which we know- are your lifts going up?
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You are very wrong... A kilo of fat is equal in weight to a kilo og muscles.. But a kilo of fat is greater in size.
 
DennisTheDane said:
You are very wrong... A kilo of fat is equal in weight to a kilo og muscles.. But a kilo of fat is greater in size.
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muscle is about 18% more dense than fat and one pound of muscle occupies less space (volume) than one pound of fat. fine a pound is a pound- but your only mentioning this because your trying to justify your swollen-mess -
 
smith_69 said:
muscle is about 18% more dense than fat and one pound of muscle occupies less space (volume) than one pound of fat. fine a pound is a pound- but your only mentioning this because your trying to justify your swollen-mess -
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Swollen mess?

or

Swollen ness?

Big difference lol
 
Last few pages made me laugh
Must say I am looking bigger now then I have ever in my life. Can't wait to see what next week brings
Still dosing 1 Sparta lean am and with lunch
What would be the top daily dose?
 
Bigdumogre said:
Last few pages made me laugh
Must say I am looking bigger now then I have ever in my life. Can't wait to see what next week brings
Still dosing 1 Sparta lean am and with lunch
What would be the top daily dose?
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yes my stupidity tends to make others laugh, why got a problem with that cause im stupid sometimes huh

lmao lol
 
Pretty good write up on 7-DHEA

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Seems 400 is about the top of the (recommended ) dosing spectrum

11-oxo can be ran higher like 7-900mg/day

So for Lean I would say 4 caps/day max.
 
Dma378 said:
Pretty good write up on 7-DHEA

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Seems 400 is about the top of the (recommended ) dosing spectrum

11-oxo can be ran higher like 7-900mg/day

So for Lean I would say 4 caps/day max.
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Seeing a improvement with 2 a day. At 4 I can't wait to see what that will bring
 
smith_69 said:
muscle is about 18% more dense than fat and one pound of muscle occupies less space (volume) than one pound of fat. fine a pound is a pound- but your only mentioning this because your trying to justify your swollen-mess -
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No im just fat... :D No working around that... But ill still f**k you up hahahahaha :D <3 ;P
 
DennisTheDane said:
No im just fat... :D No working around that... But ill still f**k you up hahahahaha :D <3 ;P
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yes dear

its that time of the month we all know how you get- all that estrogen building up inside you isn't good. now go sit down, finish your knitting and don't forget to drink your pamprin shake.
 
smith_69 said:
yes dear

its that time of the month we all know how you get- all that estrogen building up inside you isn't good. now go sit down, finish your knitting and don't forget to drink your pamprin shake.
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Im gonna lay all kinds of hurt on ya boy!
 
Today was arms day
Was chasing the pump the whole time and could not achieve it.

Seating overhead
85x15
105x12
125x8
145x4
85x30

Barbell curls
85x10 4 sets

Dumbbell curls
Progressive weights from 30-60 with 30 second rest

Incline curls
50x10 4 sets

Side Lat raises super settled with front
25x10 X8 4 sets

Tri overhead
80x10 4 sets

In line skull crushers
70x10 4 sets

Felt horrible today just no energy even with 400mg of caffeine
Sparta lean still dosed one pill twice a day
 
Bigdumogre said:
Today was arms day
Was chasing the pump the whole time and could not achieve it.

Seating overhead
85x15
105x12
125x8
145x4
85x30

Barbell curls
85x10 4 sets

Dumbbell curls
Progressive weights from 30-60 with 30 second rest

Incline curls
50x10 4 sets

Side Lat raises super settled with front
25x10 X8 4 sets

Tri overhead
80x10 4 sets

In line skull crushers
70x10 4 sets

Felt horrible today just no energy even with 400mg of caffeine
Sparta lean still dosed one pill twice a day
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Ever take a cortisol blocker? Some people get energy from it but I don't, it actually puts me to sleep. Maybe it is the same way with the 11oxo possibly?
 
Good looking log.
 
CJNator said:
Ever take a cortisol blocker? Some people get energy from it but I don't, it actually puts me to sleep. Maybe it is the same way with the 11oxo possibly?
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Yep and I love cortisol blockers
Really makes me feel good and great sleep
Have a bottle of ergobolic that I will start soon
 
Yesterday was leg day
Taking it easy on legs due to knee still and don't want to chance it.

Leg extensions
100x12,110x10,120x10,130x9,140x8,150x5

Leg curls
115x8,130x6,130x6,130x6,100x12

Seated calf raises
225x10 4 sets

Leg press
225x15 5 sets

Cable crunches
Rack x failure 4 sets

Ab slide
50xfailure for 4 sets

Cardio
Treadmill for a mile

Still feeling good and zero sides at all so far so very impressed
Muscles feel extremely full
 
You can still get a lot done with lighter leg work and save those knees. More concentration on contraction, isometric holds and exercise variety with some high volume can be just as effective if not more in a lot of cases.
 
Density work seems awesome for me for building muscle while saving joints. Gironda style 8x8 is fun for that.
 
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