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Something to stack with M-Sten

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After something that doesn't convert to estrogen. Going to run M-Sten. Wanting to run something else with it. Unless anyone knows of anything stronger than M-Sten.
 
I'm doing msten, Mithras, and epi andro.....the Mithras and msten is a combo, epi is separate, none of those convert to estro.
 
what do you guys think about pmag at 25-50mg a day plus some msten at 5-10mg a day for 4 weeks?
 
what do you guys think about pmag at 25-50mg a day plus some msten at 5-10mg a day for 4 weeks?

Sounds incredibly low dosed tbh
 
Msten is too low. I think you can run it at 50mg/day (maybe that's DMZ) it's either 30mg or 50 mg a day for the norm from what I've read. If you can DMZ is awesome to stack with, you could use Epi andro but you need on cycle support with Msten
 
20 is usually a good dose for msten. Some go up to 30 with experience. I would just run with epi andro. Maybe 1 andro
 
What about dienedione, dienolone or trendione? Way stronger than epiandro. Epiandro is good for libido and energy though.
 
Never heard of the others. I normally do M-Sten with DMZ. I have also tried M-Sten with 1-Andro but if I can get more strength (size if possible however not as important as strength) then I am up for it. Just nothing that converts, can't handle gyno stuff.
 
Msten is too low. I think you can run it at 50mg/day (maybe that's DMZ) it's either 30mg or 50 mg a day for the norm from what I've read. If you can DMZ is awesome to stack with, you could use Epi andro but you need on cycle support with Msten

I think M-Sten at 30mg is good amount. Typical pills are in 10mg each. And I think DMZ is 50mg if I can remember is good as well. 45-60 or something along those lines.
 
I think M-Sten at 30mg is good amount. Typical pills are in 10mg each. And I think DMZ is 50mg if I can remember is good as well. 45-60 or something along those lines.

If I recall from my cycle earlier this year these were the numbers I had seen
 
Worried about the lethargy, it gets me everytime, bad on msten for me.
Here was my plan...

Pmag 50/50/50/50
Msten 5/10/10/15
Test 100mg throughout
HCG 250iu twice wk

Run the pmag at 75-100mg for 4-6 weeks and the msten at 20mg. Pmag is some good stuff. Very similar to halodrol with a little better size gains IMO. Make sure you've got some good liver support(2 methyls) and a good PCT lined up.
 
Run the pmag at 75-100mg for 4-6 weeks and the msten at 20mg. Pmag is some good stuff. Very similar to halodrol with a little better size gains IMO. Make sure you've got some good liver support(2 methyls) and a good PCT lined up.

75mg of pmag i about all I can handle, any higher and my dick is shot. Tudca and NAC always, and idk if i'll pct, i'm on trt. But i've got hcg, pharma clomid, and nolva on hand so who knows. Maybe I'll go off.. or not lol...
 
Ah was unaware of the TRT. Should've put it together with the low dose of test haha. Good luck with the cycle boss.
 
Run the pmag at 75-100mg for 4-6 weeks and the msten at 20mg. Pmag is some good stuff. Very similar to halodrol with a little better size gains IMO. Make sure you've got some good liver support(2 methyls) and a good PCT lined up.
For liver support and protection while on cycle, CEL TUDCA and CYCLE ASSIST would greatly benefit you OP.
 
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