Some questions about stacking Viron

regomello

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Hello everyone. First post here.

Sorry if the questions are pretty dumb, I'm a complete outsider from bodybuilding. So I appreciate your patience.

Below is the e-mail I sent to the BLR customer service. Posting it here for more opinions and bc they haven't answered yet (not that I'm complaining, it's been just a few days).

So thanks in advance :).

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Hi;

I'm a soon-to-repeat-customer from Spain (Barcelona), so excuse my English in advance :).

I have some doubts about a stack of your products and my research doesn't seem to solve it, so here I go.

First of all, to put in some context: I'm 30, male. I was in fairly bad shape (smoker, sedentarism) so about a year ago I started doing cardio and eating better. I quit smoking not long after.

Truth is, my main motivation for getting fit (besides overall health, of course) is the sexual improvement. To be more specific, harder, quicker/easier to achieve and longer lasting erections. Increased libido is a plus aswell.

I never used any supps except for a multi, then like 6 months ago I started taking citrulline and two weeks ago I just finished a 6 weeks run of OL LJ100 and Prolactrone.

Now, I am looking for a test boost that improves my erections and increases my libido.


I am going with Viron this time (stoked to try this!), and I have a few questions...

- Should I add Letrone for estrogen control? I heard/read/whatever that low estrogen can lead to a loss of libido and affect erection quality.
I have never ran a "cycle" (don't even know what it is), only supps i've used so far are OL LJ100 and Prolactrone.

- Or stack it with Prolactrone?

My point is, I'm not a bodybuilder at all, I've just started lifting like four months ago and I'm more a cardio guy. I have a tendency to slight low T (as shown in my last bloodworks from maybe 3 years ago) and actually I am here for the boners 8).

That's why I'm not even considering Follidrone. I am of the wiry and sinewy type, not hitting the irons that hard.

- That said, should I run the Viron alone? If not, stacked with what?

- I know is your competitor, but I'm guessing... Will Viron + Alphamax XT be a good stack or an overkill?
(Don't worry, buying Viron is my only certainty at this moment LOL).

Thanks a lot, and sorry for the looooooooong e-mail.


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And thank you for the responses, I hope :).
 
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If you need to increase your testersone naturally then easy on the cardio and lift some heavy weights...
 
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Don't stack Alphamax XT and viron. Run them at seperate times. You also do not need estrogen control when taking viron.
A cycle means a cycle of anabolic steroids
 
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Why don't you just ask those 2-3 questions in the BLR forum. Probably get a good answer in there friend.
 
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Viron plus Alphamax XT could be overkill.

What you may want to try is running Viron at 2 cap per day, 5 days a week, then 2 days off.

If you wanted to give Letrone a try. You could add in only 1 cap per day, only taken in the morning.

If your joints gets too dry, and start to ache, then your estrogen is starting to get low, and you may
want to cut back on the Letrone to 1 cap every other day.

Lowering estrogen, does has a positive effect on raising test levels. You just don't want estrogen to
get too low, or if can effect your libido, just the way too low of test can.

If you have any other questions feel free to send me a personal message.
 
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if you do decide to add Alphamax XT, I would run Viron for 1 month solo first to see the effects
before adding in a 2nd test booster.

Once you add in Alphamax, I would lower my Viron dosage to 1 cap a day instead of 2, seeing
Alphamax also has some Longjack in it like Viron.
 

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Many thanks for the answers!

I will order Viron and Letrone.
Viron 2 caps daily 5 on 2 off.
Letrone 1 cap, day on day off.

Sounds good?

BLR says Letrone does not cause dry joints. So, what other symptoms should I watch for regarding E getting too low?

You guys think adding Prolactrone is a good choice for libido and erection quality?

Thank you all.
Also, I'm reducing my cardio time. More like increasing its intensity, in fact.
I'm lifting heavier, too.

Thx!
 
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I'm here for the boners too.
 
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Many thanks for the answers!

I will order Viron and Letrone.
Viron 2 caps daily 5 on 2 off.
Letrone 1 cap, day on day off.

Sounds good?

BLR says Letrone does not cause dry joints. So, what other symptoms should I watch for regarding E getting too low?

You guys think adding Prolactrone is a good choice for libido and erection quality?

Thank you all.
Also, I'm reducing my cardio time. More like increasing its intensity, in fact.
I'm lifting heavier, too.

Thx!
Sounds good to me.

Only other signs of low estrogen is the same as low T. Libido issues.

Prolactrone will definitely help with improving down time.
 
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Alphmax XT already contains 300mg TA 200:1(=600mg of a 100:1) + Boron citrate.

Also contains Ash + DHAA for estrogen and cortisol.

Additionally it contains 98% L-Dopa + b6 to lower prolactin.

Amoung other great compounds like 3,4-divanill, 95% Forskolin and Ferulic Acid. Point being stacking it with Viron, Letrone or Prolactrone would be overkill across the board.

I would just run Viron solo or with the two others for now n leave alphamax for another time.
 

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Alphmax XT already contains 300mg TA 200:1(=600mg of a 100:1) + Boron citrate.

Also contains Ash + DHAA for estrogen and cortisol.

Additionally it contains 98% L-Dopa + b6 to lower prolactin.

Amoung other great compounds like 3,4-divanill, 95% Forskolin and Ferulic Acid. Point being stacking it with Viron, Letrone or Prolactrone would be overkill across the board.

I would just run Viron solo or with the two others for now n leave alphamax for another time.
Thank you!

A question about Alphamax... Probably I got ir wrong, but... Does not b6 interferes with L-Dopa crossing the Brain Barrier?

I mean, I've read B6 makes L-Dopa being metabolized outside the brain, where it's supposed to?

Thank you.
 
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Stacking b-6 with L-DOPA can potentially lower the ability for L-DOPA to increase Growth Hormone but will improve the ability to lower Prolactin. For more information Id look at: Dissociation of growth hormone and prolactin response to levodopa during pyridoxine administration.

In all fairness the B-6 dose in Alphamax XT is very low and L-DOPA should be plenty for minor decreases in prolactin and improvements in the refractory peroid.
 
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Inquiries sent through our contact page go directly to my email inbox which I check dozens of times per day. Perhaps there was a technical issue?
In the future if you have issues contacting us feel free to contact one of us directly here via PM or through a thread like this which allows for public response.

My suggestion after looking this over is run the Viron and add Exotherm. Its got 2 AIs in it including the one in Letrone but at a lower dose. Its less potent as an AI. Lots of guys mention libido being exceptional with Exotherm. This plus Viron should have you "pumped" in no time ;)

Also we just released FOLLIDRONE 2.0
Its got Ecklonia Cava in it and while Im not so sure itll increase libido it beat out viagra for overall scores

Scientists studied 31 men with erectile dysfunction (ED) for over six months. They compared eight weeks of EC use to Viagra. They looked at orgasmic function (OF), intercourse satisfaction (IS), overall satisfaction (OS), and erectile function (EF). Over those eight weeks, ECE scored 87%, 74%, 62%, and 66%. Viagra scored 27%, 44%, 39%, and 66%. No side effects were reported with EC:


Its also an incredible muscle builder and fat loss agent.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/black-lion-research/279849-follidrone-2-0-a.html
 

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