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daveydoodle

daveydoodle

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If you read the "leftovers" cycle thread, you know I haven't run a cycle for 12+ months, which means I haven't been reading my AM forums either. I've been trying to catch up on my reading in the past few days! I have a bunch of left overs, but not enough to run a good cycle with (portion bottles of M-Drol, 4AD, Trenv-700, WinZtrol, M1T, Epistane). Since there's a bunch of "new" options, and clones....any suggestions?
I've run Superdrol, Ergomax LMG, Haladrol (first generation), Mega-TRN, X-Mass (loved it), PP, Epistane, M1T, 4AD, M-Drol and Pherabol.
I know someone is going to ask, so NO..NOT ALL AT ONCE!!
I'm looking for a 3-5 week cycle, with the focus on mass gain. I do have enough M1T and M-Drol for a cycle, but need to get more Tamox before I start (only have 10mg x 17 pills left), so I was thinking of a cycle I could run with some of the new OTC PCT (Trans-Resveratrol, etc..) until I can get Tamox again.
Lifting 15+ years, 33 y/o, 6'4" 265 lbs, 10% bf +/- . I still have AI's Post Cycle Support, a well as all the usual supporting supps.
Any good ideas? or just wait, get some more Tamox and run M1T or M-Drol?
 
daveydoodle said:
If you read the "leftovers" cycle thread, you know I haven't run a cycle for 12+ months, which means I haven't been reading my AM forums either. I've been trying to catch up on my reading in the past few days! I have a bunch of left overs, but not enough to run a good cycle with (portion bottles of M-Drol, 4AD, Trenv-700, WinZtrol, M1T, Epistane). Since there's a bunch of "new" options, and clones....any suggestions?
I've run Superdrol, Ergomax LMG, Haladrol (first generation), Mega-TRN, X-Mass (loved it), PP, Epistane, M1T, 4AD, M-Drol and Pherabol.
I know someone is going to ask, so NO..NOT ALL AT ONCE!!
I'm looking for a 3-5 week cycle, with the focus on mass gain. I do have enough M1T and M-Drol for a cycle, but need to get more Tamox before I start (only have 10mg x 17 pills left), so I was thinking of a cycle I could run with some of the new OTC PCT (Trans-Resveratrol, etc..) until I can get Tamox again.
Lifting 15+ years, 33 y/o, 6'4" 265 lbs, 10% bf +/- . I still have AI's Post Cycle Support, a well as all the usual supporting supps.
Any good ideas? or just wait, get some more Tamox and run M1T or M-Drol?
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if you have all that experience with PH/PS, why not inject?
 
So no good ideas out there, huh? I list what I have as leftovers (just as a list, NOT a cycle) and I get several responses telling me what a bad cycle layout it is, but you intentionally ask for some ideas, and ckickets.....:lol:
I was thinking about Cyclobolan, or maybe Spawn stacked with another synergistic ph/ds. I think I want to run 4 weeks, starting July 13th. C'mon....evryone wants a guinea pig!
 
not sure what ur goal is, but if u want a pretty intense cycle, id run this

"tren" 1-8
Hdrol 1-5
Mdrol 6-8

definitely run support supps throughout, and yes, a serm is a MUST
 
Goal was up top; Looking for a 3-5 week cycle, mostly mass gain. Lifting 15+ years, 33 y/o, 6'4" 265 lbs, 10% bf +/- . I've run several cycles, most with pretty good results. I have left over bottles of Mdrol and M1T, but was looking for something more "middle of the road" for now. I've been off cycles for about 12+ months now. I think no matter what I run, I'm gonna need a SERM. I think there is very little out there now that you can get away without it!
I ran M1T and Mdrol together back in April/May of 08', and had phenomenal results. That was my last cycle.
 
JBerto said:
there are only 2 new: iForce Dimethazine and Applied Nutriceuticals The ONE
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Update: There's another really new compound (no clone):
iForce Protodrol (17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol -> methyl-dht without the 3-ketone)

Patrick Arnold spoke on it in MD:
This last compound has an interesting story behind it. Back in 2005 when everyone was selling methylated stuff and making a killing, I started to get really envious and was very tempted to enter into the market with a methylated product of my own. Of course this was foolish as I had yet to be indicted for my role as the manufacturer of the clear and was certainly being watched by the feds like a hawk. But I knew of the coolest compound and I had a nifty idea on how to synthesize it cost effectively, and I just could not resist.
So my lab chemist Matt and I went about the process of developing the manufacturing procedure. We had ample amounts of the starting material epiandrosterone sitting around (left over from the 1-AD days) so we were already a step ahead. After some trial and error, we were successful and we made 100 grams or so to try out on people.
I dissolved it in oil to save the effort of putting it into caps (encapsulating small amounts of material is a bitch cause you kind of have to do it by hand). I had some people try it out, one guy in particular who was an old friend in town and was my guinea pig for stuff since back when I first was making 4-AD and its nor analog. Anyway, this guy comes back after six weeks or so and says, \"What the hell WAS that stuff?" I asked him what he meant and he said it's the best stuff he has ever taken. He had clean gains and felt great and his strength was through the roof. Well, this made me happy and I was eager to get going on selling this stuff. I even dropped some hints on bodybuild?ing.com about the future product.
Well, dropping those hints was a dumb move. Seems that the feds were reading everything I wrote and they interpreted it (conveniently so) as me getting ready to come out with a new version of the clear (as if I would announce such a thing, jeez). A month or two after my friend talked to me, the feds come crashing in and they went right for the 20 vials of this stuff as if they knew they were there. Then they started harassing Matt, demanding that he tell them where we kept the DMT. Seems they thought that I made this stuff from DMT, but in fact I made it by a different pathway (although it very easily could be made from DMT). Well, nothing came of them taking the stuff since I had never sold it, but in retrospect it seems very likely that my manufacture of the small amounts of the stuff and my blabbering about it on the net was what finally enabled the feds to persuade the judge to issue a search warrant. And that search warrant was what put in motion the chain of events that led to my indictment, sentencing and finally imprisonment.
So you probably want to know what is so cool about this steroid. Well, probably the coolest thing about it is that although it is methy?lated and has considerable anabolic/androgenic activity, it does not cause any liver toxicity (as measured by bromosulphothalein retention).There is no other similar steroid that is known to behave like this. It has 1.8 times the anabolic activity of methyltestosterone (a pretty decent value) and 1.0 times the androgenic activity.
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Thoughts on a better cycle: Phera / Tren OR Hdrol / Havoc? I'm looking for greater gains (wet is okay) as I can cut later without ph/ds. I went ahead and got some more Tamox, as my last cycle I got a little nipple soreness, (thankfully not puffy though). Ideally I'd like a 4-5 week cycle.
 
JBerto said:
Update: There's another really new compound (no clone):
iForce Protodrol (17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol -> methyl-dht without the 3-ketone)

Patrick Arnold spoke on it in MD:
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BTW, If you have a copy of Vida book, i think this compound is "D-12" (page 159)

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I'm going to go with Phera & Tren. When did most people peak on their strength / weight gain? I'd like to run for 4-5 weeks, but could do 6 if need be. 6 is kinda long for these two I think, and it seems most people peak out about 4 weeks. Sound right?
 
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