so now what

T-Bone said:
Well I like the original "better".
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The old one was great for cutting, i like the newer one allot more for endurance and the hunger aspect of it. the older one didn't make me hungry at all, new one i can't stop thinking about food lol
 
Phosphatadic acid probably spelled wrong anyone sell that in bulk?
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Since laxogenin is bunk in humans, this puzzles me, but to each their own :)
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Well i can certainly post a ton of reviews from other forums that say otherwise. I guess like with most supplements effects real or percieved are still effects. Good ole placebo so products that are popular here like anabeta on other forums where its nkt people think its **** and vice versa with laxogenin.
 
mattys4 said:
The popular supps are always the strongest
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I agree with this to a certain degree. For the experience I would say no. For not so experienced people or just people who want things to work and it's all mental than yes
 
halfhuman said:
I agree with this to a certain degree. For the experience I would say no. For not so experienced people or just people who want things to work and it's all mental than yes
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That was my point if u read my post before this one. If someone is expecting effects then they will most likely get them real or percieved. Kinda like ph/ds/aas use, guys that learn about this on forums and guys that learn in real life its like they are in two different worlds only on forums do people load up on supports for a 4 week halo cycle and have pct in hand and even use research chems in real life theres no such thing as a 4 week cycle and no way anyone would touch a research chem. Same with side effects people on forums get way more side effecrts then people who arent i would think because thwres so much talk about sides on forums and people witg little to no experience make aas seem like big scary drugs that they expect sides. I could go on and on about this reality is jve been on for over two years and blood work comes out perfect most of tge time only time it doesnt is when im slacking on cardio and diet is ****. General health has more side effexts then steroids
 
EBF Inc said:
Probably another year or 2
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Really? Sh!t. I mean, Im not so naive to think that a product will magically start deteriorating the day it reaches its claimed expiry date, but Im also not assuming the date to be some arbitrary recommendation with little reasoning as to its specificity...?
 
NewAgeMayan said:
Really? Sh!t. I mean, Im not so naive to think that a product will magically start deteriorating the day it reaches its claimed expiry date, but Im also not assuming the date to be some arbitrary recommendation with little reasoning as to its specificity...?
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There are a lot of testing methods before slapping an expiry on there

Most don't go for the longer expiry because it takes longer in the machine
 
mattys4 said:
That was my point if u read my post before this one. If someone is expecting effects then they will most likely get them real or percieved. Kinda like ph/ds/aas use, guys that learn about this on forums and guys that learn in real life its like they are in two different worlds only on forums do people load up on supports for a 4 week halo cycle and have pct in hand and even use research chems in real life theres no such thing as a 4 week cycle and no way anyone would touch a research chem. Same with side effects people on forums get way more side effecrts then people who arent i would think because thwres so much talk about sides on forums and people witg little to no experience make aas seem like big scary drugs that they expect sides. I could go on and on about this reality is jve been on for over two years and blood work comes out perfect most of tge time only time it doesnt is when im slacking on cardio and diet is ****. General health has more side effexts then steroids
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....This one time in band camp.
 
mattys4 said:
That was my point if u read my post before this one. If someone is expecting effects then they will most likely get them real or percieved. Kinda like ph/ds/aas use, guys that learn about this on forums and guys that learn in real life its like they are in two different worlds only on forums do people load up on supports for a 4 week halo cycle and have pct in hand and even use research chems in real life theres no such thing as a 4 week cycle and no way anyone would touch a research chem. Same with side effects people on forums get way more side effecrts then people who arent i would think because thwres so much talk about sides on forums and people witg little to no experience make aas seem like big scary drugs that they expect sides. I could go on and on about this reality is jve been on for over two years and blood work comes out perfect most of tge time only time it doesnt is when im slacking on cardio and diet is ****. General health has more side effexts then steroids
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Can be true. Like any supp, hype can dictate what you expect so you may be more likely to feel something simply because its discussed on forums. But it is a 2 way deal - alot of people who use PH or AAS without knowledge on proper use may experience sides but not know what to look out for. You may not notice your liver struggling or rises in BP unless you are aware these things may change.

I work with a few overweight people who are shocked to find out their BP exceeds 150-160/ 90-100. If a person uses AAS and does experience high BP and is unaware, the effects of such (unless extreme) often go unnoticed. However arterial damage can occur if BP remains elevated for a prolonged period of time and may cause issue 20+ years down the track; long after there cycle days are over.
Likewise if a person had T levels in the 600-800s pre cycle then runs test into the 1500 range for a long period of time, then comes off without PCT and levels only recover to 200, they may not attribute that to the cycle as they may have forgtton what 600-800 feels like and just assume how they feel is "normal".

Awareness allows for protection/ prevention as you can assess issues as they arise or monitor common sides but then you may also "feel" sides that arnt actually occuring.
 
vujade said:
Its a movie reference :)
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I know what it is i dont get his reason for posting that whats he trying to say. I stayed away from this forum for long time m starting to remember why
 
mattys4 said:
I know what it is i dont get his reason for posting that whats he trying to say. I stayed away from this forum for long time m starting to remember why
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there's a good group of people here and then the pecker head reps that think their sh!ts the best even if it's crap. Most of them push a bad product with unsubstantiated claims and "studies" by their company or cherry picked and pieced together to make it look/sound like it's actually got net worth. There are a few that are quite knowledgeable.

Sometimes I realize the only reason I stick here is because it's the only forum with a decent app. F that taptalk.
 
Im suprised people do not like ostarine. it does not give the glycogen super compensation most ph/designer aas etc do....but strength increase, anti catabolism, and slow but steady lbm gains. ive used everything under the sun. Im a fan of ostarine. i find 50mgs is the sweet spot. obviously if suppression is a worry (pct) you would not want to use any...but recovery from an ostarine cycle is fairly easy compared to superdrol, epi, etc.
 
alland said:
Im suprised people do not like ostarine. it does not give the glycogen super compensation most ph/designer aas etc do....but strength increase, anti catabolism, and slow but steady lbm gains. ive used everything under the sun. Im a fan of ostarine. i find 50mgs is the sweet spot. obviously if suppression is a worry (pct) you would not want to use any...but recovery from an ostarine cycle is fairly easy compared to superdrol, epi, etc.
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I love ostarine pct i dont do but when im cruising getting healthy bloods back to normal i always use ostarine. Zero negatives only positives mild positives but still there and no negative impact on anhthing really makes it great to help keep gains while on low doses of gear
 
superbeast668 said:
there's a good group of people here and then the pecker head reps that think their sh!ts the best even if it's crap. Most of them push a bad product with unsubstantiated claims and "studies" by their company or cherry picked and pieced together to make it look/sound like it's actually got net worth. There are a few that are quite knowledgeable.

Sometimes I realize the only reason I stick here is because it's the only forum with a decent app. F that taptalk.
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I need to get you on gh15 youd fit right in there.

The best is when people quote studies that were done in house. I think its usp labs ibcant remember does tons of in house studies they quote from
 
mattys4 said:
I need to get you on gh15 youd fit right in there. The best is when people quote studies that were done in house. I think its usp labs ibcant remember does tons of in house studies they quote from
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Correct
 
alland said:
Im suprised people do not like ostarine. it does not give the glycogen super compensation most ph/designer aas etc do....but strength increase, anti catabolism, and slow but steady lbm gains. ive used everything under the sun. Im a fan of ostarine. i find 50mgs is the sweet spot. obviously if suppression is a worry (pct) you would not want to use any...but recovery from an ostarine cycle is fairly easy compared to superdrol, epi, etc.
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That's double the dose I used. LoL.
 
mattys4 said:
I need to get you on gh15 youd fit right in there. The best is when people quote studies that were done in house. I think its usp labs ibcant remember does tons of in house studies they quote from
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Lol muscle tech 8 page studies in muscular development magazine
 
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