SNS Ursa-Bolic - Ursolic Acid Phytosome - Lean Muscle, Fat Loss, & More

the only thing i noticed from using transdermal ursolic acid over the past few years is a little bit of a leaning effect at the 3 month mark, you dont really "feel" anything while taking it, no change in pumps,strength or fullness. i always say its the supplement i take when i am tired of taking supplements(i think someone else quoted that and it was a statement that rang very true to me, if that makes any sense. once you get in your 40's you get tired of taking pills and slatering transdermals or pinning through scar tissue everywhere.
 
lanky said:
the only thing i noticed from using transdermal ursolic acid over the past few years is a little bit of a leaning effect at the 3 month mark, you dont really "feel" anything while taking it, no change in pumps,strength or fullness. i always say its the supplement i take when i am tired of taking supplements(i think someone else quoted that and it was a statement that rang very true to me, if that makes any sense. once you get in your 40's you get tired of taking pills and slatering transdermals or pinning through scar tissue everywhere.
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I think everyone responds differently. It may be the dose by I liken 2ml am/pm I notice the leaning around week 3 and the vascularity is 10/10.
 
Just picked up two bottles, I also got two bottles of Prime XT to try out should I wait to run them or would they stack well?
 
BigSWOLE25 said:
I think everyone responds differently. It may be the dose by I liken 2ml am/pm I notice the leaning around week 3 and the vascularity is 10/10.
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I agree. I think everyone responds differently and I think with Ursa-Gel the ppl that dose 2 ml twice a day definitely see better vascularity and endurance with it than those that don’t.

I notice it helps me lean out even if I’m not trying to, and that’s even with me admittedly not being super consistent w my dosing. I love Ursa-Gel but I’m excited by Ursa-Bolic bc I know I’ll be more consistent on my dosing.
 
hercules_22 said:
Just picked up two bottles, I also got two bottles of Prime XT to try out should I wait to run them or would they stack well?
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I think they will stack. They’re both part of the next stack I’m thinking on myself as soon as I can get my training back consistent.
 
I am going to stick with two a day for my first bottle and adjust from there if I need to. So far the pumps and always being warm even in 60 degree weather is what I have noticed so far.
 
So fired up for this. Love UA and a good way to increase dose over the topical. I can’t remember what was the final conclusion on how this affects sperm quality? Trying for a baby now so might have to hold off
 
CATdiesel76 said:
So fired up for this. Love UA and a good way to increase dose over the topical. I can’t remember what was the final conclusion on how this affects sperm quality? Trying for a baby now so might have to hold off
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I forgot about that side effect....no more kids for me, but I am concerned about how UA effects volume.
 
CATdiesel76 said:
So fired up for this. Love UA and a good way to increase dose over the topical. I can’t remember what was the final conclusion on how this affects sperm quality? Trying for a baby now so might have to hold off
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Pretty much that no one thought that that would apply to the real world.

Let's be honest - there are tons more guys that would love it if it did make them not as likely to have kids, so if it really did that, someone would be selling it as a form of male birth control by now :ROFLMAO:
 
JohnnieFreeze said:
I forgot about that side effect....no more kids for me, but I am concerned about how UA effects volume.
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Motility and volume are completely different things.

I don't think it really hurts sperm motility anyway, but even if it did, that's something you couldn't see outside a microscope and it would have no effect on volume at all.
 
Madevilz said:
If it really makes you sterile, I'll stock up for a few years ;)
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It's funny because I had typed out my reply above about if it really did that how someone would already be selling it as male birth control and then saw this post haha.
 
sns8778 said:
Motility and volume are completely different things.

I don't think it really hurts sperm motility anyway, but even if it did, that's something you couldn't see outside a microscope and it would have no effect on volume at all.
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Music to my ears. I’ll be ordering next week.
 
Seems interesting. Just interested in the UK price point. I use Ursa Gel standard at 3 ml per day which I believe nets me 210mg UA and at that volume it lasts me just monthly (which I like). Thus only 1 bottle needed monthly with my Supress C.

If this could be ran at 2 caps ED would be great as only 60 caps per bottle, but if it’s more for a certain level of efficiency I’ll have to wait until others that have tried topical to try this; so they can give a comparison.

However, I hope it’s a hit and if 2 caps ED is similar or even close to 3ml of Ursa Gel ED in terms of effectiveness … I would have to seriously think of changing over regardless of price point here (UK).
 
Here we go!!
 

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AndroRage said:
Seems interesting. Just interested in the UK price point. I use Ursa Gel standard at 3 ml per day which I believe nets me 210mg UA and at that volume it lasts me just monthly (which I like). Thus only 1 bottle needed monthly with my Supress C.

If this could be ran at 2 caps ED would be great as only 60 caps per bottle, but if it’s more for a certain level of efficiency I’ll have to wait until others that have tried topical to try this; so they can give a comparison.

However, I hope it’s a hit and if 2 caps ED is similar or even close to 3ml of Ursa Gel ED in terms of effectiveness … I would have to seriously think of changing over regardless of price point here (UK).
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Yep, definitely not trying to derail Steve’s thread but the Ursa Gel is such a good deal if you don’t mind the transdermal, I know the capsules are way easier though.

I have noticed that my weight seemed to jump up ~2 lbs as soon as I went off ursa and stayed there, happened both of my last two runs. Not sure if it’s water or what? I weigh in daily so it is a trivial amount but I noticed it.

I am a fan of the ingredient but did not realize all the longevity benefits, may need to run this more often!
 
A few studies on Ursolic Acid if anyone enjoys reading clinical research, there's a lot, so I've included only a few.

'Ursolic acid reduces obesity, glucose intolerance and fatty liver disease by increasing skeletal muscle and brown fat."
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Ursolic acid increases skeletal muscle and brown fat and decreases diet-induced obesity, glucose intolerance and fatty liver disease - PubMed

Skeletal muscle Akt activity stimulates muscle growth and imparts resistance to obesity, glucose intolerance and fatty liver disease. We recently found that ursolic acid increases skeletal muscle Akt activity and stimulates muscle growth in non-obese mice. Here, we tested the hypothesis that...
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"UA might be considered as a potential candidate for treatment of pathological conditions associated with muscular atrophy and dysfunction, including skeletal muscle atrophy."
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Ursolic acid ameliorates aging-metabolic phenotype through promoting of skeletal muscle rejuvenation - PubMed

Ursolic acid (UA) is a lipophilic compound, which highly found in apple peels. UA has some certain features, of the most important is its anabolic effects on skeletal muscles, which in turn plays a prominent role in the aging process, encouraged us to evaluate skeletal muscle rejuvenation. This...
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"UA may ameliorate adipose IR, which is associated with activation of the Akt-GLUT4 signaling pathway and inhibition of inflammation."
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Ursolic acid ameliorates adipose tissue insulin resistance in aged rats via activating the Akt-glucose transporter 4 signaling pathway and inhibiting inflammation - PubMed

Ageing often results in insulin resistance (IR) and chronic inflammation, and adipose is one of the tissues in which inflammation and IR occur earliest during this process. The present study investigated the effect and underlying mechanisms of ursolic acid (UA) on adipose IR and inflammation in...
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"UA plays an anti-obesogenic role by increasing the secretion of irisin and promoting the beiging of WAT."
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Ursolic acid induces white adipose tissue beiging in high-fat-diet obese male mice - PubMed

Ursolic acid (UA) shows an effect on obesity and related metabolic diseases, but its mechanism of action remains unclear. We found that UA clearly reduced the body weight and adipose tissue mass and improved the glucose tolerance and insulin sensitivity in obese male mice. UA treatment...
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"Oral 0.5% UA supplementation can prevent vascular aging biomarkers in a HFD/STZ-induced T2D model."
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Ursolic acid enhances the effect of exercise training on vascular aging by reducing oxidative stress in aged type 2 diabetic rats - PubMed

Ursolic acid (UA) mediates the vasorelaxant activity via nitric oxide (NO) release, and upregulation of endothelial nitric oxide synthase (eNOS) in endothelial cells (ECs) in disease conditions with increased oxidative stress (OS). The present study aimed to reflect on the impact of 8 weeks of a...
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"UA as a novel therapeutic for the treatment of hypercholesteremia."
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Ursolic acid inhibits the cholesterol biosynthesis and alleviates high fat diet-induced hypercholesterolemia via irreversible inhibition of HMGCS1 in vivo - PubMed

UA inhibits the catalytic activity of HMGCS1, reduces the generation of downstream metabolites in the process of cholesterol biosynthesis and alleviates Diet-induced hypercholesteremia via irreversible binding with HMGCS1 in vivo. It is the first time to clarify the irreversible inhibition...
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AndroRage said:
Seems interesting. Just interested in the UK price point. I use Ursa Gel standard at 3 ml per day which I believe nets me 210mg UA and at that volume it lasts me just monthly (which I like). Thus only 1 bottle needed monthly with my Supress C.

If this could be ran at 2 caps ED would be great as only 60 caps per bottle, but if it’s more for a certain level of efficiency I’ll have to wait until others that have tried topical to try this; so they can give a comparison.

However, I hope it’s a hit and if 2 caps ED is similar or even close to 3ml of Ursa Gel ED in terms of effectiveness … I would have to seriously think of changing over regardless of price point here (UK).
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I think only time will tell with the direct comparisons to Ursa-Gel and what the dosage equivalents will be, and there will likely be some different opinions with different people.

Ursa-Gel is a great product and Ursa-Bolic is in no way meant to get anyone to change over to it from Ursa-Gel for people that use it. We just realize that in the overall market, there are a lot of people that won't use topical products and I'm excited to be able to finally offer a great advanced absorption Ursolic Acid option in a convenient capsule form.

Hopefully this will be priced fairly in the UK/EU.

Full price here in the US is 49.99 so according to google, that would currently be 44.74 eur.

We've had a lot of UK/EU customers buy it direct from us with the 20% off intro deals we're running.

I look forward to hearing your feedback if you try it.
 
baldwanus said:
lol, I swear they must have listed this like 10 minutes after I posted
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yup they were just waiting for u to post here .. once i saw ure post ... i told them go ahead post it lol
 
rahhonatake said:
Since this ursolic acid like most other products are from a 25% extract of rosemary leaf can you tell us how much of the other constituents of rosemary leaf such as rosmarinic acid, carnosic acid, etc are filtered out? My concern is that since it is a low strength extract those trace ingredients will contribute to sedation which I wouldn't want to experience in the morning when I intend to take it.
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Interesting question. Not an answer but I have been taking 4am pre workout without issue
 
rahhonatake said:
Since this ursolic acid like most other products are from a 25% extract of rosemary leaf can you tell us how much of the other constituents of rosemary leaf such as rosmarinic acid, carnosic acid, etc are filtered out? My concern is that since it is a low strength extract those trace ingredients will contribute to sedation which I wouldn't want to experience in the morning when I intend to take it.
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I'm glad to answer any questions that you may have.

However, please don't post false or misleading things in this thread.

I would like to believe that you may a legitimate question and just phrased it poorly, but there's a history here on AM of accounts with zero post history posting 'questions' in our product introduction threads that have false statements in them under the guise of questions.

In this case, rather than asking the % standardization, you made and assumption/allegation and then made a false statement seemingly with the intention to cast doubt about something.

You made the statement that:
Since this ursolic acid like most other products are from a 25% extract of rosemary leaf

^^^ Your statement there is completely false.

You could not get a 155 mg. yield of Ursolic Acid from a 399 mg. Ursolic Acid Phytosome if you were using anywhere close to a 25% starting material.

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sns8778 said:
I'm glad to answer any questions that you may have.

However, please don't post false or misleading things in this thread.

I would like to believe that you may a legitimate question and just phrased it poorly, but there's a history here on AM of accounts with zero post history posting 'questions' in our product introduction threads that have false statements in them under the guise of questions.

In this case, rather than asking the % standardization, you made and assumption/allegation and then made a false statement seemingly with the intention to cast doubt about something.

You made the statement that:
Since this ursolic acid like most other products are from a 25% extract of rosemary leaf

^^^ Your statement there is completely false.

You could not get a 155 mg. yield of Ursolic Acid from a 399 mg. Ursolic Acid Phytosome if you were using anywhere close to a 25% starting material.

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I should've double checked the label before commenting like a dumbass, genuine stupid brain fart I confused the label with another product, you're absoluteness right to be annoyed, I apologize and meant no ill intentions, I actually am a long time customer. Been lurking in this forum for a long time but I genuinely am interested in ursolic acid with higher bio-availability that is in oral form hence my first comment here. That being said can you offer any insight as to the standardization?
 
rahhonatake said:
I should've double checked the label before commenting like a dumbass, genuine stupid brain fart I confused the label with another product, you're absoluteness right to be annoyed, I apologize and meant no ill intentions, I actually am a long time customer. Been lurking in this forum for a long time but I genuinely am interested in ursolic acid with higher bio-availability that is in oral form hence my first comment here. That being said can you offer any insight as to the standardization?
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Thank you for explaining. And no worries, I normally always give people the benefit of the doubt, especially new posters. There's just been a ridiculous trend of every time we do an introduction thread now, there's an account with no post history that posts a 'question' that's intentionally misleading and isn't really a question.

I'm always glad to answer people's questions.

There is zero worry of sedation with Ursa-Bolic.

I'm going to rephrase your questions a little bit and split them into two different questions to be able to answer you.

Question 1:
Your primary question was basically asking if there would be enough Rosmarinic Acid and Carnosic Acid in the product to make you tired or have any type of sedative effect?

Answer 1:
No, not at all. There is really not much worry with this even with low % Ursolic Acid from Rosemary anyway because the concentrations are so low in Rosemary. To achieve a concentration of these to be good for their own particular benefits, of which there are many, it would need to be standardized for those constituents.

In this case, the standardization is for Ursolic Acid content and the amount of rosmarinic acid and carnosic acid leftover in the raw material would be trivial.

Question 2:
Can you offer any insight into the standardization?

Answer 2:
As with any branded or specialty ingredient, brands are required to present ingredients on the label in the way that the ingredient company requires them to.

We go a step beyond what most brands do in the sense of transparency as we identify both the total mg. of the phytosomal ingredient and the active yield of the ingredient itself.

399 mg. Ursolic Acid Phytosome yielding 155 mg. Ursolic Acid per capsule.

The way the math works on that is that it would be a significantly high Ursolic Acid standardization because that's saying that it's 155 mg. actual active per capsule.

I hope that makes sense.
 
sns8778 said:
Thank you for explaining. And no worries, I normally always give people the benefit of the doubt, especially new posters. There's just been a ridiculous trend of every time we do an introduction thread now, there's an account with no post history that posts a 'question' that's intentionally misleading and isn't really a question.

I'm always glad to answer people's questions.

There is zero worry of sedation with Ursa-Bolic.

I'm going to rephrase your questions a little bit and split them into two different questions to be able to answer you.

Question 1:
Your primary question was basically asking if there would be enough Rosmarinic Acid and Carnosic Acid in the product to make you tired or have any type of sedative effect?

Answer 1:
No, not at all. There is really not much worry with this even with low % Ursolic Acid from Rosemary anyway because the concentrations are so low in Rosemary. To achieve a concentration of these to be good for their own particular benefits, of which there are many, it would need to be standardized for those constituents.

In this case, the standardization is for Ursolic Acid content and the amount of rosmarinic acid and carnosic acid leftover in the raw material would be trivial.

Question 2:
Can you offer any insight into the standardization?

Answer 2:
As with any branded or specialty ingredient, brands are required to present ingredients on the label in the way that the ingredient company requires them to.

We go a step beyond what most brands do in the sense of transparency as we identify both the total mg. of the phytosomal ingredient and the active yield of the ingredient itself.

399 mg. Ursolic Acid Phytosome yielding 155 mg. Ursolic Acid per capsule.

The way the math works on that is that it would be a significantly high Ursolic Acid standardization because that's saying that it's 155 mg. actual active per capsule.

I hope that makes sense.
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Appreciate the detailed response, ordered a few bottles, cheers :)
 
rahhonatake said:
Appreciate the detailed response, ordered a few bottles, cheers :)
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You're very welcome. I'm glad to help.

I hope that you'll enjoy the product.
 
3 bottles arrived yesterday, may start taking it next week, my gut is recovering from antibiotics so i want to give my GI system a rest for a week or two
 
Couple days in and increased all day vascularity with muscle hardness. Will post more in a couple weeks but was surprised to notice that so quickly.
 
cgreid3 said:
I've been looking foward to this as I do most of the stuff Steve but I have ton of ursagel at home (I love that stuff) and I'm curious as to how this differs outside of it being a alternate delivery system, what are some of the benefits of the pill form for some someone who already uses the topical version? Is it simply convenience?
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Curiosity really, how you liking Ursa Gel and how you running it? I’ve been using 2/3 pumps am and like it.
 
hercules_22 said:
Any specific dosing or timing suggestions? I'm thinking 1 AM pwo and 1PM with my evening 3 Anabolic XT
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That's the way I plan to time it myself; I'm reverse in that I train at night, but I plan to take 1 cap twice daily with my Anabolic XT dosages.
 
started taking 4 capsules per day of ursabolic yesterday morning. not running any other supplements, eating maintenance, will not change workout frequency or volume. i am giving my skin a break from all the transdermals i ran over the past 9 months
 
lanky said:
started taking 4 capsules per day of ursabolic yesterday morning. not running any other supplements, eating maintenance, will not change workout frequency or volume. i am giving my skin a break from all the transdermals i ran over the past 9 months
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I think I've only heard from one other person that is running it that high, so I'll be curious to see what you think.

People are seeming to notice nice differences sooner than many expected too off of the regular dose, so definitely interested to hear how you'll like mega dosing it.
 
Bottle on the way! Still got some of my Ursa-Gel stockpile, so think I'm gonna do 2 pumps of UG when I get up, then pop 1 cap of Ursa-Bolic pre.
 
5 days in so far, nothing noticed yet, will bump it up to 5 capsules today and re check back in at the 10 day mark.
 
BigGame84 said:
Typically I think UA takes some time to build up.
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totally agree .. i believe early on you will see BP/Cholestrol improvement along with increase in cardiovascular

muscle/leaning benefits will come as you stay consistent throughout as other muscle builders.
 
lanky said:
5 days in so far, nothing noticed yet, will bump it up to 5 capsules today and re check back in at the 10 day mark.
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I'm writing this as much to anyone reading and following along as to you in general.

You've mentioned that you've taken Ursolic Acid a lot in the past in the td form. I would assume you didn't see much by the 5 day mark on any of these either, correct?

As others mentioned, Ursolic Acid takes takes some time to build up and start working and then the results are consistent or improve with time. I wouldn't expect to notice anything by the 5 day mark except for increased pumps and muscle fullness like some report seeing.

As curious as I am about dose response from mega dosing, I don't think that you 'need' to increase to 5 caps per day. I'm not trying to discourage you as I'm kind of curious, but I don't want anyone to think that they need to.
 
i agree about ursolic acid taking a long kick in period to see any results in the past when i have done transdermal. i have been off transdermal for about 3 weeks now
 
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