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Here is what I’m taking. I intentionally am not taking creatine cause I wanna see how these 3 sns products do. Two month run. I’ll also be taking 300 MGs daily PS caps and 3 pumps daily 7oxo. So this is my first full SNS run. My diet is damn near perfect in a caloric defecit I meal prep 20 meals a week every Sunday and have a home gym that I have invested appx 16/17 K$ into. I train 5 days a week and weekend work consists of sled work, sandbags and farmer carries along with regular weight training routines. . So if I dnt get results. I’m sure I know its not me I always been skeptical of supplements but I loaded up spent a good amount of money I’m being open minded Invalid Link Removed
 

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What are your goals? I was told the Natty king for putting on size was Anabolic Effect. Yet to test it myself (will do next year) but it has incredible feedback around here
 
What are your goals? I was told the Natty king for putting on size was Anabolic Effect. Yet to test it myself (will do next year) but it has incredible feedback around here
My goal is to see if these supplements work lol that’s the goal. Lean out , maintain mass and strength ( even gain strength) . All 3 should play a role in what my goals are. Which is why I chose them. My Diet and training is on point. I can’t see any reason why these products wouldn’t help accelerate my process
 
My goal is to see if these supplements work lol that’s the goal. Lean out , maintain mass and strength ( even gain strength) . All 3 should play a role in what my goals are. Which is why I chose them. My Diet and training is on point. I can’t see any reason why these products wouldn’t help accelerate my process
Should be an epic stack based on your goals
 
First off, you're holding out on us. you got $15k+ into a home gym and you don't add pics to this thread?? LETS SEE IT!! 🔥🔥

I don't know anything about the cocoabuterol but the AXT and PA XT have used both separate and stacked and I love both products. I've had a lot of PRs on A XT. it's a great product.

I haven't really been using Creatine either since I ran out of my last batch of SNS Creatine like 1 year+ ago. But if I were to bring Creatine back into my regiment, I wouldn't hesitate to go with their HCI again. it tastes great which makes it easy to just throw in with my morning shaker of water for easy supplementation.
 
My goal is to see if these supplements work lol that’s the goal. Lean out , maintain mass and strength ( even gain strength) . All 3 should play a role in what my goals are. Which is why I chose them. My Diet and training is on point. I can’t see any reason why these products wouldn’t help accelerate my process

I don't know if I have used Anabolic XT in a deficit, I used it in a surplus and it always yielded awesome results.
I have used Anabolic Effect in a deficit though and felt it helped hold on to strength substantially while cutting.
 
First off, you're holding out on us. you got $15k+ into a home gym and you don't add pics to this thread?? LETS SEE IT!! 🔥🔥

I don't know anything about the cocoabuterol but the AXT and PA XT have used both separate and stacked and I love both products. I've had a lot of PRs on A XT. it's a great product.

I haven't really been using Creatine either since I ran out of my last batch of SNS Creatine like 1 year+ ago. But if I were to bring Creatine back into my regiment, I wouldn't hesitate to go with their HCI again. it tastes great which makes it easy to just throw in with my morning shaker of water for easy supplementation.
It’s a mess in a 18x22 garage lol my wife tells me stop buying sht But I’ll send u pics when I get home later. Promise
 
I feel like it’s been months of you saying you’ll run PA-XT, maybe you’ll actually use it before getting banned again this time.

Just please try to not lose track of things and get derailed again with flip flopping ideas, as long as you have no preconceived notions and the right expectations I’m sure you’ll enjoy it.

I do think you need to stop acting like just bc you’ve invested a ton of money into equipment and you meal prep it automatically means your training and diet are fine, maybe it increases the likelihood, but it doesn’t guarantee things are set up properly.

Maybe actually laying out what you are doing specifically and what else you’ve been taking leading up could get this on the right track. Just so people have an understanding of things like how you are on TRT, etc. because the timeline has been confusing.

Good luck if you actually mean it this time though.
Well your reply above is decent so now I’ll be decent with you. So yes , I am dead serious bro. I’m here giving this stuff a legit shot with great intentions. If I was being a smart ass believe me you would know lol. I am not shy I am not scared. Over the Internet or to your face I am always the same. I am very straight fwd person I’m very honest. Sometimes a bit too abrasive , but that’s life. Im not for everybody I accept that. But my friends and wife and 6 rescue pets live the **** out of me cause I’m one awesome MFer lol

so yes I am on TRT but I am on pellets not injections. I have done injections in the past and just didn’t wanna do it this time.

my meals for the week are

meal 1 - oatmeal with protein powder with avocado oil and lechtin granules , 3 whole eggs and 4 egg whites, and a peach

meal 2- coleslaw salad with red wine vinegar and grilled chicken w/ grilled zucchini and grilled asapargus

meal 3 - white rice, grilled chicken , mixed veggies, protein fruit smoothie

I do have colitis so there are things I can’t eat and won’t eat and I can’t digest big meals properly. So when I bulk or cut I have to be specific with the food I eat what I add to my meals and how big meals are and they have to be spaced apart to allow for proper digestion.

I take all my vitamins daily and consistently. I been training for 20 years bro. I have always trained natural besides a few times I tried test and anavar and halodrol 2 times all was within a two year period. I have made gains bulking cutting you name it. My brother competed all natural for years and been training almost 30 years so I learned a ton from him in regards to form and full range of motion and mindmuscle connection. I have done local competitions when I lived in Queens NY with bench deadlifts and squats. It was more u ground type **** with different people all over NY never did a real meet.

my split is this

sat-chest day, sandbags, farmers, sled work

Sunday- back day , some traps , farmer carries, sled work and sandbag’s

Monday - Triceps

Tuesday-Biceps

wednesday-Delts and traps

add 9 pics of my cluttered home garage gym equipped with a sound system, minisplit AC and heat and 32”TV

Tuesday Aug 27 was day one taking the following

PAXT
Anabolic xt
Cocoabutxt
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First off, you're holding out on us. you got $15k+ into a home gym and you don't add pics to this thread?? LETS SEE IT!! 🔥🔥

I don't know anything about the cocoabuterol but the AXT and PA XT have used both separate and stacked and I love both products. I've had a lot of PRs on A XT. it's a great product.

I haven't really been using Creatine either since I ran out of my last batch of SNS Creatine like 1 year+ ago. But if I were to bring Creatine back into my regiment, I wouldn't hesitate to go with their HCI again. it tastes great which makes it easy to just throw in with my morning shaker of water for easy supplementation.
I love Creatine HCL best of the best man. I also like MCC by SNS I think o made better gains from it than any Creatine I ever used. I not using it now because I wanna see what strength gains I can make off using anabolicxt and paxt. I’ll never know if they are legit if I use Creatine. I like to know if I spend money what works and what don’t I am also honest if somehting works. I refuse to say somehting is great if I had zero effects from it and I will be totally honest bout this stack as well
 
If you are truly serious, I'd consider stop buying equipment and hire a coach. Your split and gym don't match up imo.
 
I started taking PA earlier this year and now it’s a staple supplement for me. I absolutely love the pumps and fullness(noticeably different within a week) I get with it. Over time it’s helped with strength too, but not a drastic change as I saw with the pumps/fullness.

I’ll be interested to see how this stack works for you.
 
Sweet looking gym. Stack looks nice too. I'd love to combine AXT and PAXT. I did a strength phase with PAXT at maintenance and gained about 1 lb on the scale but all of my major lifts went up 20-30 lbs in 8 weeks and I'm not a beginner.

Looking at the diet it's hard to tell because I don't know portion sizes but I'd guess you're around 150g protein. Also don't know your weight but maybe try to get that up to around 1-1 with your weight. Training is probably good. I like to vary my training. Over the years I got stuck in a rut of something similar. Now I'll do a bro split for 8-12 weeks then I'll do a PPL then I'll do full body 3 days a week. I seem to progress much better with that.

Good luck, can't wait to hear about the progress. I know for me PA XT kicked in with muscle fullness after about 10-14 days and strength around day 20.
 
I started taking PA earlier this year and now it’s a staple supplement for me. I absolutely love the pumps and fullness(noticeably different within a week) I get with it. Over time it’s helped with strength too, but not a drastic change as I saw with the pumps/fullness.

I’ll be interested to see how this stack works for you.
Thanks for the great feedback. I’m curious also and hopeful. Atleast I have an idea of what to possibly expect. I am also very aware that an all natural supp will result in minimal gains some gains so I know what to expect in a sense. I’m very aware of any personal changes in strength or physique
 
Sweet looking gym. Stack looks nice too. I'd love to combine AXT and PAXT. I did a strength phase with PAXT at maintenance and gained about 1 lb on the scale but all of my major lifts went up 20-30 lbs in 8 weeks and I'm not a beginner.

Looking at the diet it's hard to tell because I don't know portion sizes but I'd guess you're around 150g protein. Also don't know your weight but maybe try to get that up to around 1-1 with your weight. Training is probably good. I like to vary my training. Over the years I got stuck in a rut of something similar. Now I'll do a bro split for 8-12 weeks then I'll do a PPL then I'll do full body 3 days a week. I seem to progress much better with that.

Good luck, can't wait to hear about the progress. I know for me PA XT kicked in with muscle fullness after about 10-14 days and strength around day 20.
so with me I often switch up routines. I do do some full body push or pull or I’ll do 5x5s **** like that. But dealing with bad lower back and sciatica issues , partial torn rotator cuff makes things hard. Like of late my sciatica is killing me so I’m restricted on certain movements so I work around it.

lol you nailed it. That just about exactly where I’m at I shoot for 150-175 daily as best I can as much as I can digest. Right now I’m eating to lean out. I’m down 13 lbs in 4 weeks with this diet. But when I train just cause I am cutting I never stop training to be strong stay strong and build muscle. I train at the moment a body building routine , but I certainly still do incorporate functional training and power lifting training routines I do use bands and chains with almost every body part and alternate it. I m not new to this myself. But I do have a lot of injuries so I can’t strictly train heavy functional or heavy powerlifting. But I love it so I keep it incorporated in my routines always and that never will change.
And thanks for the compliment. This gym is built for me so I can do anything I like anytime I want. Be it I wanna train for power or strength or just bodybuilding. Plus my wife likes a lot of the machines as well and I have some friends so are more into the bodybuilding aspect specifically so when they come I can alternate routines. I’m 46 and feel great man. I was away for 2 years and just got back a while ago

good to hear your results. I’m thinking this go things will work out well. I have had some good results with MCC by SNS as well as Amentflavone and Epi Plex
 
Wait do you not do any leg work?
Nope hardly ever anymore. I have attachments to do legs , but I’ll be honest i just avoid it. I never used to and I really should get back into it. I started recently and just stopped again. My friend is always saying somehting to me about ttaining legs cause he always trains them. I know man I gotta back into it . I just don’t feel like it at the moment
 
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Never skip legs. Ever. If you are serious about this you want a complete physique.

I stand with my original reply. Stop buying stuff and hire a coach.
 
I overlooked the part that you skip legs. I'd argue that you should incorporate it but start out light and that might even help with sciatica. It's typically a muscle imbalance issue so if you can strengthen things like your glutes and core you might find relief.

Hip thrusts(also single leg), rdl(also single leg), deep heel elevated goblet squats

If you do that for a month and feel better then start working your way up with more
 
I overlooked the part that you skip legs. I'd argue that you should incorporate it but start out light and that might even help with sciatica. It's typically a muscle imbalance issue so if you can strengthen things like your glutes and core you might find relief.

Hip thrusts(also single leg), rdl(also single leg), deep heel elevated goblet squats

If you do that for a month and feel better then start working your way up with more
yeah man I used to train legs all the time back in the day. I just deal with alot of issues physically from years of heavy lifting and heavy construction work for over 25 years Jack hammering , digging holes, concrete work , sheet rocking etc and I am not and never been lazy and was always the go to guy but this is what happens after years of physical labor and I’m pretty sure majority of people have never done try physical labor…. my body is pretty beat up so I do avoid doing certain things. Funny thing is I said to my wife this morning , I have to get to the Dr for my back. I have 3 bulging discs for about 15 years and lately my sciatica has been bothering me like never before. I have days where just standing up doing basic DB curls I feel it or doing OHP I feel it badly so some days I feel ok and can push a bit other days I have to stay super light high reps etc

today I do shoulders. My sciatica is ok today not bothering much at all. If I feel it a bit. So all I been thinking all day is what can I do so I can get a good session in with out irritating my sciatica
 
I would look up some stuff on Youtube for sciatica. There's some good stretches you can do before working out. But balancing everything out will go at the root cause. I've helped an older woman nurse, overweight truck driver, and a mechanic all greatly reduce sciatica pain with doing this. It allows you to then go harder on everything else. I'd just try it for 3-4 weeks. Nothing to lose.
 
I train legs not because it's super enjoyable but because I think legs have massive carryover to everything else in the gym. I just don't think they should be ignored. Plus being honest with ourselves no matter what we do or accomplish the squat is probably always going to be the single greatest display of strength.

I not using it now because I wanna see what strength gains I can make off using anabolicxt and paxt.
Right now I’m eating to lean out. I’m down 13 lbs in 4 weeks with this diet.

To be fair, while these products are likely a great contribution to cutting or bulking, I don't think it would be appropriate to judge them on their ability to build strength while on a cut. I've mentioned many times the value I felt anabolic effect had for me in maintaining my strength while cutting, which in itself I think is amazing. But I would be incredibly surprised if you found a natty product that led a trained body into strength gains or PRs while cutting.
 
I would look up some stuff on Youtube for sciatica. There's some good stretches you can do before working out. But balancing everything out will go at the root cause. I've helped an older woman nurse, overweight truck driver, and a mechanic all greatly reduce sciatica pain with doing this. It allows you to then go harder on everything else. I'd just try it for 3-4 weeks. Nothing to lose.
Thank you for the advice and will def look into it . I appreciate it bro. So one of the issues I seem to be dealing with is my spinal erectors on the left and right along with the sciatica. End of the day my job comes first. I have 6 pets and a mortgage and bills bro so if putting certain exercises to the side to avoid injuring myself it is what it is. These days I just train cause I love training. It unfortunately I can’t do all what I use to do and I’m fine with it. I think if I had access to leg machines like hack squats and leg extensions and leg presses etc I’d train legs more. I have some stuff at home I just haven’t been using it lately. I have considered joining a gym the pas few weeks so I can do some legs and have access to more machines. Other thing is my workout is pro dominantly all free weight compounds. Which is def tough on body when dealing with a lot of injuries. I dnt do a lot of isolation exercises
 
I train legs not because it's super enjoyable but because I think legs have massive carryover to everything else in the gym. I just don't think they should be ignored. Plus being honest with ourselves no matter what we do or accomplish the squat is probably always going to be the single greatest display of strength.




To be fair, while these products are likely a great contribution to cutting or bulking, I don't think it would be appropriate to judge them on their ability to build strength while on a cut. I've mentioned many times the value I felt anabolic effect had for me in maintaining my strength while cutting, which in itself I think is amazing. But I would be incredibly surprised if you found a natty product that led a trained body into strength gains or PRs while cutting.
Well I been told specifically a few times strength gains and while I stated I don’t expect strength gains I expect to atleast maintain or even get stronger. This is the reason I started taking paxt cause I am cutting and I am getting weaker. So I’d certainly expect these products which I was told was good for maintaining size and strength on a cut so I’m expecting these type of results. I know they will super limited minimal I know this. But we will see what I get out of it while cutting.
 
Thank you for the advice and will def look into it . I appreciate it bro. So one of the issues I seem to be dealing with is my spinal erectors on the left and right along with the sciatica. End of the day my job comes first. I have 6 pets and a mortgage and bills bro so if putting certain exercises to the side to avoid injuring myself it is what it is. These days I just train cause I love training. It unfortunately I can’t do all what I use to do and I’m fine with it. I think if I had access to leg machines like hack squats and leg extensions and leg presses etc I’d train legs more. I have some stuff at home I just haven’t been using it lately. I have considered joining a gym the pas few weeks so I can do some legs and have access to more machines. Other thing is my workout is pro dominantly all free weight compounds. Which is def tough on body when dealing with a lot of injuries. I dnt do a lot of isolation exercises
For sure. Totally understand. If it helps you feel better you can have less pain, work later in life without disability issues, work harder, and train. It's not an either or. Training supplements my life and yes I want to look like a superhero but I also want to be able to do work around the house, help move things, play basketball with the kids I coach, etc.
 
For sure. Totally understand. If it helps you feel better you can have less pain, work later in life without disability issues, work harder, and train. It's not an either or. Training supplements my life and yes I want to look like a superhero but I also want to be able to do work around the house, help move things, play basketball with the kids I coach, etc.
Exactly bro. I mean **** I stopped going to hardcore and metal shows cause I can’t stand up for too long with out having to stretch and bend over cause my backs stiff. Along even doing errands round the home , my back hurts if I’m just walking round to long I stopped training two years gained a sht load of weight. A lot man. Now I’m just about getting healthy again I get my bloods done recently every 6 months just cause I’m trying to get it perfect and all I had wrong was a high blood sugar which was me carb loading too much. So I just wanna train have fun get healthy. I’m not trying to compete I’m not them trying to be better than anybody lol I’m just trying to be healthy and that’s it these days man. This is my hobby a huge part of my life but if ain’t my life. Other **** comes first. Not trying to sound insulting most people here or the kens comment have no clue what blue collar labor is and I’m positive to say I guarantee most couldn’t have handled 1/2 the work I have done. They will never understand the toll it takes on your body and how it makes you have to change your life style. People tend to talk a lot when they have no clue. The occasional person gets its , like you for example
 
What are your goals? I was told the Natty king for putting on size was Anabolic Effect. Yet to test it myself (will do next year) but it has incredible feedback around here

Anabolic Effect is great for putting on size and it makes a great stack with Anabolic XT.

People start to notice the muscle fullness and some endurance with Anabolic Effect pretty quickly and then the results really start to kick in around week 3 and get better for most people by the week. That's why most people run a 12 to 20 week cycle of it and why a lot of people use it long term.

I don't know if I have used Anabolic XT in a deficit, I used it in a surplus and it always yielded awesome results.
I have used Anabolic Effect in a deficit though and felt it helped hold on to strength substantially while cutting.

I'm glad that you like them both. They're both great natural anabolics and work in different ways, and they make for a great stack.

I don't think you've ever stacked them yet have you? I'm looking forward to you stacking them at some point and seeing how you like them.

I feel like it’s been months of you saying you’ll run PA-XT, maybe you’ll actually use it before getting banned again this time.

Just please try to not lose track of things and get derailed again with flip flopping ideas, as long as you have no preconceived notions and the right expectations I’m sure you’ll enjoy it.

I do think you need to stop acting like just bc you’ve invested a ton of money into equipment and you meal prep it automatically means your training and diet are fine, maybe it increases the likelihood, but it doesn’t guarantee things are set up properly.

Maybe actually laying out what you are doing specifically and what else you’ve been taking leading up could get this on the right track. Just so people have an understanding of things like how you are on TRT, etc. because the timeline has been confusing.

Good luck if you actually mean it this time though.

I'd love to believe that this is a sincere thing about running the products. I guess time will tell.

Great point though about meal prep and equipment - not just for him, but anyone though. We have a great gym setup here at the warehouse, but I still felt like I had better overall access to equipment and trained better at a commercial gym. They just need to invent a piece of equipment that will come to my office and drag me back there and make me workout haha.

I started taking PA earlier this year and now it’s a staple supplement for me. I absolutely love the pumps and fullness(noticeably different within a week) I get with it. Over time it’s helped with strength too, but not a drastic change as I saw with the pumps/fullness.

I’ll be interested to see how this stack works for you.

Thank you for sharing your feedback. I'm really glad you like it.

There are some people that see great dramatic gains in strength from Phosphatidic Acid XT, but I noticed myself like you said that it helped me over time. I didn't get the dramatic bump, but I also don't train for max strength - but I did get nice consistent gains in both muscle and strength and the pumps were great and I look more full all the time on it.

Sweet looking gym. Stack looks nice too. I'd love to combine AXT and PAXT. I did a strength phase with PAXT at maintenance and gained about 1 lb on the scale but all of my major lifts went up 20-30 lbs in 8 weeks and I'm not a beginner.

Looking at the diet it's hard to tell because I don't know portion sizes but I'd guess you're around 150g protein. Also don't know your weight but maybe try to get that up to around 1-1 with your weight. Training is probably good. I like to vary my training. Over the years I got stuck in a rut of something similar. Now I'll do a bro split for 8-12 weeks then I'll do a PPL then I'll do full body 3 days a week. I seem to progress much better with that.

Good luck, can't wait to hear about the progress. I know for me PA XT kicked in with muscle fullness after about 10-14 days and strength around day 20.

That's great to hear for the strength gains. Congratulations.

Protein intake is crucial for me in general and especially on any natural anabolics, and scientifically it would make sense that it would be even more important on things that increase protein synthesis.

I train legs not because it's super enjoyable but because I think legs have massive carryover to everything else in the gym. I just don't think they should be ignored. Plus being honest with ourselves no matter what we do or accomplish the squat is probably always going to be the single greatest display of strength.

To be fair, while these products are likely a great contribution to cutting or bulking, I don't think it would be appropriate to judge them on their ability to build strength while on a cut. I've mentioned many times the value I felt anabolic effect had for me in maintaining my strength while cutting, which in itself I think is amazing. But I would be incredibly surprised if you found a natty product that led a trained body into strength gains or PRs while cutting.

I absolutely agree. I despise training legs. I hate it more now after my accident than ever before, but realize the importance of it for other things.

I totally understand if some people aren't able to train them - but I think that we/they need to be realistic with oneself if we can't do legs, then it will impact us on other exercise areas as well.

Absolutely agree - on a cut, the goal should be to maintain strength. If strength goes up, that's great and an added bonus. Some people do gain strength during a cut, and more do during a recomp - but something helping a person maintain strength is awesome in itself during a cut.
 
yeah man I used to train legs all the time back in the day. I just deal with alot of issues physically from years of heavy lifting and heavy construction work for over 25 years Jack hammering , digging holes, concrete work , sheet rocking etc and I am not and never been lazy and was always the go to guy but this is what happens after years of physical labor and I’m pretty sure majority of people have never done try physical labor…. my body is pretty beat up so I do avoid doing certain things. Funny thing is I said to my wife this morning , I have to get to the Dr for my back. I have 3 bulging discs for about 15 years and lately my sciatica has been bothering me like never before. I have days where just standing up doing basic DB curls I feel it or doing OHP I feel it badly so some days I feel ok and can push a bit other days I have to stay super light high reps etc

today I do shoulders. My sciatica is ok today not bothering much at all. If I feel it a bit. So all I been thinking all day is what can I do so I can get a good session in with out irritating my sciatica


I was airborne in the military, I've always been a gym rat and martial artist, and I've been hard on my body with plenty of injuries. I have herniated discs in my lower back too. Chiropractic is what helps me the most, I highly recommend it. Many times it's a simple fix.

In addition, I'd take fish oil (1-2gr EPA/DPA daily), curcumin (theracumin, meriva, Curcuprime, or other advanced type), EGCG (300-800mg daily), and you could throw in a joint supp as well, like SNS Joint Support XT. Take those daily til you die to help minimize the pain and further damage.

And don't forget to warm up before working out, and stretch after. I hate to say it, but people say 'oh I warm up', but 1 set isn't a warm up, people absolutely neglect warming up properly. Running 2 miles before you work out will probably help a lot, and for example if you're doing bench, start with the bar....even if your 1rm is 650.

And strengthen your core. Do a bunch overhead work vs doing crunches.
 
Well I been told specifically a few times strength gains and while I stated I don’t expect strength gains I expect to atleast maintain or even get stronger. This is the reason I started taking paxt cause I am cutting and I am getting weaker. So I’d certainly expect these products which I was told was good for maintaining size and strength on a cut so I’m expecting these type of results. I know they will super limited minimal I know this. But we will see what I get out of it while cutting.

As @Dustin07 pointed out, the goal on a cut should be to maintain strength, not necessarily trying to gain strength. Since you said that you had already been getting weaker, hopefully they will help with that and if you get lucky you may see some strength rebound, but I agree with him about the goal should be to maintain first, and if there is an increase, that's an extra bonus.

There are some people that report strength gains with them on a cut - but for all of us, we have to look at our own circumstances and how they will influence that - like our diet, training, limitations from injuries, etc.

And diet and training is such an individualized thing. We all have to find out what works best for us, and the better our diet and training, the more that any supplements can help us. I know that for me, I normally need about 1.5 grams of protein per lb. of body-weight to maintain muscle when cutting and I also take that amount anytime I'm doing anything that increases protein synthesis and mTOR activation.

Not speaking specifically to you here, but just towards anyone interested, that is one way to make sure to get the maximum effectiveness out of supplements designed to increase protein synthesis in general.

I've always been a believer that if I'm going to increase my body's ability to synthesize and utilize protein, I need to give it some extra to work with to really maximize my results. Maybe some won't need to, but I've always found that to work great for me.
 
And don't forget to warm up before working out, and stretch after. I hate to say it, but people say 'oh I warm up', but 1 set isn't a warm up, people absolutely neglect warming up properly. Running 2 miles before you work out will probably help a lot, and for example if you're doing bench, start with the bar....even if your 1rm is 650.

And strengthen your core. Do a bunch overhead work vs doing crunches.

I absolutely agree about warming up. I used to be bad about that myself. The more injuries and accidents and the more wear and tear, the more seriously my body has had to take it.
 
I was airborne in the military, I've always been a gym rat and martial artist, and I've been hard on my body with plenty of injuries. I have herniated discs in my lower back too. Chiropractic is what helps me the most, I highly recommend it. Many times it's a simple fix.

In addition, I'd take fish oil (1-2gr EPA/DPA daily), curcumin (theracumin, meriva, Curcuprime, or other advanced type), EGCG (300-800mg daily), and you could throw in a joint supp as well, like SNS Joint Support XT. Take those daily til you die to help minimize the pain and further damage.

And don't forget to warm up before working out, and stretch after. I hate to say it, but people say 'oh I warm up', but 1 set isn't a warm up, people absolutely neglect warming up properly. Running 2 miles before you work out will probably help a lot, and for example if you're doing bench, start with the bar....even if your 1rm is 650.

And strengthen your core. Do a bunch overhead work vs doing crunches.
For sure bro. I made an appt last night fit chiropractor it’s for sept16 440 pm. Shts driving me crazy. Thanks for your service and for the great feedback. I certainly do not stretch and I know I should. I do warm with weights but I don’t warm up with proper stretching

as for supps I do take fish oil and flax oil regularly. I also take nerve restore by EvoMuse which does wonders. Last night I picked up some Benfotiamine. Which I’m hoping can help alleviate some discomfort til the Chiropractor

I have a bottle of goucosomine msm condrotine in my cabinet that I haven’t opened I forgot I actually had it. Imma start taking it today
 
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You could do trap bar deads with the weight you felt comfortable with. Focus on contraction with your legs. Stick with it and slowly progress.

Stretch every day. I think you could improve your issues and eventually use other equipment or movements for legs.

I do simple stretches sitting with my legs crossed on my sofa. I lean forward, focus on the low back and hold as long as I can.
 
Found a bottle of 7 OXO in my cabinet. I’m gonna add it to the stack at 3 pumps a day.

FL7 is a great product and excellent for helping speed up fat loss and recomp.
 
For those talking about retaining strength on a cut, I feel that Reduce XT is pretty great for that. It worked for me fwiw. 7-Oxo should be pretty sweet as well. Nice stack and gym. @Roy Natty Gas
 
Josh, I hope so man. Spent a lot of money on this stuff. I’m assuming working 2-3 weeks I should start seeing somehting
I guarantee you will see something. Of your stack, I only have experience with Anabolic XT and that alone was best natty anabolic/supplement I have ever taken. Stacked with that other stuff I bet will be something else. I actually had painful pumps. Pumps that made me cuss. The only thing I will say is that, at least in my case, Anabolic XT made me pretty hungry. I had to really control myself and I wasn't always able to haha. On a side note, I have been taking Muscleplex and I am thinking that it is a highly underrated supplement. It absolutely makes me stronger. Just food for thought for you and others that may have never tried it.
 
Well your reply above is decent so now I’ll be decent with you. So yes , I am dead serious bro. I’m here giving this stuff a legit shot with great intentions. If I was being a smart ass believe me you would know lol. I am not shy I am not scared. Over the Internet or to your face I am always the same. I am very straight fwd person I’m very honest. Sometimes a bit too abrasive , but that’s life. Im not for everybody I accept that. But my friends and wife and 6 rescue pets live the **** out of me cause I’m one awesome MFer lol

so yes I am on TRT but I am on pellets not injections. I have done injections in the past and just didn’t wanna do it this time.

my meals for the week are

meal 1 - oatmeal with protein powder with avocado oil and lechtin granules , 3 whole eggs and 4 egg whites, and a peach

meal 2- coleslaw salad with red wine vinegar and grilled chicken w/ grilled zucchini and grilled asapargus

meal 3 - white rice, grilled chicken , mixed veggies, protein fruit smoothie

I do have colitis so there are things I can’t eat and won’t eat and I can’t digest big meals properly. So when I bulk or cut I have to be specific with the food I eat what I add to my meals and how big meals are and they have to be spaced apart to allow for proper digestion.

I take all my vitamins daily and consistently. I been training for 20 years bro. I have always trained natural besides a few times I tried test and anavar and halodrol 2 times all was within a two year period. I have made gains bulking cutting you name it. My brother competed all natural for years and been training almost 30 years so I learned a ton from him in regards to form and full range of motion and mindmuscle connection. I have done local competitions when I lived in Queens NY with bench deadlifts and squats. It was more u ground type **** with different people all over NY never did a real meet.

my split is this

sat-chest day, sandbags, farmers, sled work

Sunday- back day , some traps , farmer carries, sled work and sandbag’s

Monday - Triceps

Tuesday-Biceps

wednesday-Delts and traps

add 9 pics of my cluttered home garage gym equipped with a sound system, minisplit AC and heat and 32”TV

Tuesday Aug 27 was day one taking the following

PAXT
Anabolic xt
Cocoabutxt
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that **** dont look like it gets used lol
 
Well your reply above is decent so now I’ll be decent with you. So yes , I am dead serious bro. I’m here giving this stuff a legit shot with great intentions. If I was being a smart ass believe me you would know lol. I am not shy I am not scared. Over the Internet or to your face I am always the same. I am very straight fwd person I’m very honest. Sometimes a bit too abrasive , but that’s life. Im not for everybody I accept that. But my friends and wife and 6 rescue pets live the **** out of me cause I’m one awesome MFer lol

so yes I am on TRT but I am on pellets not injections. I have done injections in the past and just didn’t wanna do it this time.

my meals for the week are

meal 1 - oatmeal with protein powder with avocado oil and lechtin granules , 3 whole eggs and 4 egg whites, and a peach

meal 2- coleslaw salad with red wine vinegar and grilled chicken w/ grilled zucchini and grilled asapargus

meal 3 - white rice, grilled chicken , mixed veggies, protein fruit smoothie

I do have colitis so there are things I can’t eat and won’t eat and I can’t digest big meals properly. So when I bulk or cut I have to be specific with the food I eat what I add to my meals and how big meals are and they have to be spaced apart to allow for proper digestion.

I take all my vitamins daily and consistently. I been training for 20 years bro. I have always trained natural besides a few times I tried test and anavar and halodrol 2 times all was within a two year period. I have made gains bulking cutting you name it. My brother competed all natural for years and been training almost 30 years so I learned a ton from him in regards to form and full range of motion and mindmuscle connection. I have done local competitions when I lived in Queens NY with bench deadlifts and squats. It was more u ground type **** with different people all over NY never did a real meet.

my split is this

sat-chest day, sandbags, farmers, sled work

Sunday- back day , some traps , farmer carries, sled work and sandbag’s

Monday - Triceps

Tuesday-Biceps

wednesday-Delts and traps

add 9 pics of my cluttered home garage gym equipped with a sound system, minisplit AC and heat and 32”TV

Tuesday Aug 27 was day one taking the following

PAXT
Anabolic xt
Cocoabutxt
PscapsInvalid Link RemovedInvalid Link RemovedInvalid Link RemovedInvalid Link RemovedInvalid Link RemovedInvalid Link RemovedInvalid Link RemovedInvalid Link RemovedInvalid Link Removed

Dang that's a sick home gym. I need that wall with all the attachment accessories!
 
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