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Yes, BASIS is great for recomp and I would expect that C3G XT and BASIS would work very well together.
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Yes, BASIS is great for recomp and I would expect that C3G XT and BASIS would work very well together.
kid amnesiac
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Confirmed … diet has slacked off but physique hasn’t!
sns8778
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Yes, it will be available by then. We're doing the ingredient reveal countdown on social media now, and it will be released within the next week or so. I do expect that there's a good chance it will sell out.
Matrixxx1984
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ОWhen will the description of ingredients be available?
timmy8888
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Appreciate the quick response. Ill be certain to pick some up as you as it goes up. Might push maintenance for 12 weeks; run basis and alpha one should be a killer combo during that time.
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sns8778
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Probably this coming week - but not before we finish the ingredient reveals.
sammpedd88
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I’m really interested in this.
sns8778
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There will be no estrogenic ingredients in BASIS.
sns8778
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There are no estrogenic ingredients in BASIS.
I had replied, then thought about it, and decided to expand on my answer for you &/or anyone else that reads the post and wonders about the context that you're referring to.
BASIS - Specifically Formulated to Contain No Estrogen Increasing Ingredients
That was a very important part of the formulation process for BASIS and the ingredient selection and vetting process - because as you likely know from posting that, that some ingredients that increase bone morphogenetic proteins do have estrogenic properties.
That can get very confusing for some people to read and understand because some ingredients may have an effect on a certain receptor site that sounds like it would be estrogen related and isn't, but then some ingredients that can have an effect on bone morphogenetic proteins are ingredients that may cause increases in estrogen levels in some people.
That was something that we were very conscious of when formulating BASIS.
There are no ingredients in BASIS that will increase estrogen levels.
Possible Mild AI Properties in Males that Struggle with Estrogen Dominance:
There are some ingredients in BASIS that may have mild AI properties in males with estrogen dominance, which would be a very good thing.
These properties are so mild, that I wouldn't expect there to be much, if any noticeable AI effect on males that do not have issues with estrogen dominance.
I don't know that the mild AI effects will be pronounced enough to be very noticeable for men that do have issues with estrogen dominance; we aren't even mentioning it in the write up, as I would think of it as more of a nice surprise bonus for anyone that it helps with that.
Estrogen Dominance:
Estrogen dominance is a condition that is different than what many people on AM think of when they think of excess estrogen, as estrogen dominance is not related to steroid use.
For anyone reading that doesn't know what estrogen dominance is:
- Estrogen dominance is a condition where the body produces too much estrogen relative to testosterone, which can lead to various health issues in men.
- In men, estrogen dominance can be caused by various factors, the most common ones being obesity, aging, medications, liver issues, &/or stress.
- Obesity: Estrogen dominance is more likely in overweight/obese males because excess body fat can lead to increased estrogen production through a process called aromatization where fat cells cause there to be an abundance of estrogen instead of testosterone.
- Aging: Testosterone levels naturally decline with age, while estrogen levels remain relatively stable.
- Liver Issues: The liver helps metabolize estrogen, so liver issues can lead to increased estrogen levels. Approximately 42% of people in the US have non-alcoholic fatty liver disease (NAFLD).
- Stress: Chronic stress can lead to increased cortisol levels, which can negatively impact testosterone and progesterone levels, potentially contributing to estrogen dominance.
BASIS will not increase estrogen levels and may help slightly reduce estrogen levels in men with estrogen dominance.
Important note: The prevalence of estrogen dominance in the US continues to increase, especially with the obesity epidemic and high percentage of people that have non-alcoholic fatty liver disease in the US. As popular as Inhibit-E is with the bodybuilding and fitness crowd, it is very popular and useful for people with NAFLD and estrogen dominance.
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So basically, bodybuilders, athletes, and fitness enthusiasts don't have to worry about anything in BASIS increasing estrogen levels at all because it is designed to be able to be taken even by men that are estrogen sensitive.
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Ziyo
Member
That’s a very informative post!
Thank you Steve.
Could we know what those estrogenic ingredients are without correlating it to any specific supplement, just so we can avoid the particular ingredients perhaps?
Resolve10
Well-known member
Like in general? I feel that could make the list exhaustive.
I don't want to single anything out, especially because people online tend to get ridiculous with how they worry about certain things and hormone levels and because I don't want it to turn into feeling targetted, but there is definitely info out there if you just research various ingredients.
Ziyo
Member
No I meant the bmp related ingredients that were left out for this specific formula..
But yeah you’re right.
Resolve10
Well-known member
Ya I'd rather not put Steve in a bind specifically, but I think it wouldn't be too hard to search up some research on some.
Sorry not trying to be too annoying, I don't want you to take it the wrong way.
Ziyo
Member
Yeah it is a sensitive thing…
And no I didn’t take it the wrong way, I appreciate your response.
LucasBagoDoce
Member
All this anxiety building up inside of me because of BASIS isn't healthy, man 
GQdaLEGEND
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All this anxiety building up inside of me because of BASIS isn't healthy, man
we got you covered bro .. here is a perfect stack
LucasBagoDoce
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add 2 more bottles of stress and anxiety support xt and you got a deal
GQdaLEGEND
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we can run that by boss and have a 3pack deal of each for u lol
sns8778
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Question to everyone:
The BASIS writeup is massive because it is super in depth.
Do you prefer that when posting a write up, I fit as much as AM will allow into one post or do a different post by section - like one post for the introduction, another post explaining the benefits, another one for the concepts, and then another for each ingredient?
I want to make it as easy to read for anyone that wants to read it all as possible.
The BASIS writeup is massive because it is super in depth.
Do you prefer that when posting a write up, I fit as much as AM will allow into one post or do a different post by section - like one post for the introduction, another post explaining the benefits, another one for the concepts, and then another for each ingredient?
I want to make it as easy to read for anyone that wants to read it all as possible.
sns8778
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Thank you.
I wanted to let you know that I'm not ignoring your question.
I do think that it is relevant information, I'm just trying to think about how I can discuss it without it seeming like I'm being negative towards other products.
chainsaw
Well-known member
Break it down barney style I don't mind reading it all.
Garyboy
Member
Sectional sounds good to me. Thanks, Steve.
3ChainedAminos
Member
Both sound good, which ever is easier, you could always make 1 post and break it down into sections within the post, like section 1 Benefits, section 2 concepts etc. I feel like making multiple posts makes it harder, but I also have never done one, so I don’t know.
GQdaLEGEND
Legend
it doesnt matter to me .. i love reading the writeups with how much you put into it
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but i will say sectional would be prolly better .. sometimes easy to pick up where you left off .. or easier for you to point out like "hey checkout post #2 or post#3 i touched on that*
instead of scrolling through one post
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sns8778
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It's really not much difference.
If doing one with multiple posts, its just a matter of figuring out how many posts you need to be able to complete it all and then reserve that number of posts and go back and fill them in.
I've done write ups both ways in the past, so was just curious which way people found it easier to read.
Some people enjoy in depth write ups and learning, and then other people complain about the length of them - but then a lot of times are ironically the same people that will complain that they don't understand how somethings works.
baldwanus
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As a person who enjoys the long posts with the full ingredient breakdowns and such... unless I catch the thread as soon as you post it and see the 'reserved' posts after it, I never really notice how many posts you made for all of it. Kinda just blends into 1 big post when scrolling haha
3ChainedAminos
Member
I do like the in depth write ups, so that has my vote
Beau
Well-known member
I do
thescience
Well-known member
so yeah the guy who complains about a lengthy writeup just needs to consider that the read wouldnt be so long if he simply stopped reading. plenty of space to type on this site
sns8778
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Yeah, it kind of always baffles me because the top of my write ups are usually done like most companies - in that there is the focal point taglines, a simple statement of what it is, highlight bullet points, and who may benefit from using it.
So for anyone that doesn't want to read the in depth part, read what you want and then stop reading. It always baffled me that people would complain about it bc its not like anyone is sitting there making you go through it all to find relevant information bc I summarize that at the top.
madmuscle24
Member
In depth write ups will always get my vote.
sns8778
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Thank you.
The write up for BASIS is very in depth. When I post it, I was wondering if people prefer it all as one massive post or a different post per section.
CATdiesel76
Well-known member
Also, being in the spine surgery field for work, the BMP thing always confuses me. Bone morphogenetic proteins Were introduced in spine surgery as rhBMP and basically turbocharges osteoclasts and other bone growth proteins to facilitate rapid bone fusion. Almost grows too much bone and makes bad surgeons look like great ones. This is a long winded way of saying I always think people are just talking about a supplement for bone growth
sns8778
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I think that testosterone to estrogen ratio is very overlooked - I emphasize that a lot when I talk about Inhibit-E.
That's one reason we do get referrals from some HRT clinics and from some endocrinologists for Inhibit-E is that it helps to promote a healthy testosterone to estrogen ratio and lower estrogen without it going too low.
BASIS won't increase estrogen at all, so nothing for anyone to worry about one way or the other.
sns8778
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I think that's part of the confusing thing about BMPs in general is that they were named long before research showed that they had anything to do with muscle growth.
There are over 20 BMPs, and there are specific ones that do help with building muscle and then others that help with fat loss - but yeah, it I think the name of them being Bone Morphogenetic Proteins, its natural to assume its just related to bone; and especially with the muscle research being within the last 15 years.
Matrixxx1984
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Очень интересно знать,указанно на странице BASIS , что 7 фирменных ингредиентов и 12 в общей сложности,но я насчитал на данный момент 5 и скорее всего будет 6.Может ли быть,что ингредиентов будет 13?)
baldwanus
Well-known member
The graphic doesn't show it, but the Apigenin in branded. Steve uses 'ApiPure' in all of the products. So theres 6 branded ingredients revealed so far.
ApiPure, QuerceFit, SenActiv, SalidroPure, AstraGin and Bioperine.
timmy8888
Member
Massive post if it's easier on your end. Either ill remember where I left off or reread the write up from the beginning
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sns8778
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They actually weren't supposed to list it yet is what happened.
The owner knew not to, we had shipped it to them so they would have it when it launches, and then the warehouse people didn't know when they received it and they cut it live for awhile.
Which is one of the reasons where we don't ship things in advance to retailers as much now days as we used to before new product launches.
Drakee
Member
Lucky me haha. I get it after the last ingredient release anyway
Matrixxx1984
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Waiting for the last ingredient)
Tunaking14
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Last ingredient is on Facebook