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Snag gets FINAFLEXed on Road to Nationals

Completely agree - my grandma would talk quite a bit about how desserts, etc were so much sweeter here than when she was growing up in Germany. I can tell quite a bit of difference in my mood/energy/wellness/etc with how much crap sugar is or isn't in my diet.
like many things - too much sugar and crap diet when so many better options are available, are uniquely a US culture thing
nowhere else in the world, do they do this nonsense to the extent americans do
 
like many things - too much sugar and crap diet when so many better options are available, are uniquely a US culture thing
nowhere else in the world, do they do this nonsense to the extent americans do

I'm afraid europe follows.....exception is, that junk food is a bit expensive, whereas in the states it's dirt cheap...

But shyt is shyt :(
 
I'm afraid europe follows.....exception is, that junk food is a bit expensive, whereas in the states it's dirt cheap...

But shyt is shyt :(

mmm not as bad as US bro
of course, I haven't been over there in awhile, but some friends/other family have been (france/Germany/Italy), and yes altho available I don't think ppl are abusing like they do here

it is fact: US has highest obesity rate in the world - and nobody is even close to touching us
horrible
 
mmm not as bad as US bro
of course, I haven't been over there in awhile, but some friends/other family have been (france/Germany/Italy), and yes altho available I don't think ppl are abusing like they do here

it is fact: US has highest obesity rate in the world - and nobody is even close to touching us
horrible

You are right, but we tend to be a little behind. In a couple of years we'll be at the current us level of fatness....

I can see it coming, with all the kids I teach....

Only positive thing is, it makes us look even better;)
 
meal I just mauled..mmmmmmmm insanely good, swear I could eat like this forever
mesquite albacore tuna steak, jasmine rice, greens, 1/2 TBS almond butter

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and update pic of the calves, fresh off the press
they're coming on strong, just like everything else!

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so I get to my last meal last night, and went over a tad on 2 meals earlier thruout day, only had 310cals to work with..
altho I have many different items around for all things (protein/carbs/fat) so I can mix and match things at will depending on exactly what I am looking for -- not only macros, but what I essentially what those macros sourced from in that particular meal -- plus I happen to like diversity and variety, I could not easily come up with the 310cals/40g carbs/6.5g fat I was needing..was close, but best way I came up with was to throw some egg whites in there
so, this meal looks kinda odd, but it was actually pretty damn tasty :p
was 5 egg whites, white cheddar rice cake, 1 serving tomato & basil brown rice triscuits, salad with croutons/pomegranate dressing

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and, the wheels, from this morning
told you guys sh1t was gonna get crazy..legs have actually overtaken my upper body in development/changes, so ima wait a day or three before posting upper, once it catches up
weight ~185 upon rising - kinda surprised at this, makes me wanna push cals slightly upward again, but I am not quite lean enough (remember 3% or less!) :)

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ahhhh what the hell..just cuz it looks better than what I had thought :D
I still think legs have passed this for best overall conditioning on my body

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Pro card was sent out weeks ago! You should do this for a living. Looking Snagalicious! Wait, what? Lol
 
Yes, legs are a tad bit ahead but I see no cause for alarm. As quick as they came along, I expect the upper body to do the same in the coming days. You got this.
 
Changing by the day....legs look awesome, grainy, full of veins...

Upper body is not far behind, but I see what you mean...

Exciting times....best log I've seen.
 
thanks gents! JB, too funny man..good thing I don't go to the gym then eh?
well I guess I do, train a few ppl but don't work out myself in one



man, this diet is just gravy right now, immensely fun :woohoo:
180g carbs scheduled this day - on a low day :D (was 245 yesterday)
so this meal from awhile ago..just, wow
ground turkey breast with honey Dijon mustard, mesquite turkey slices, jasmine rice with 1/5 TBS butter, greens
the rice with butter was simply a gooey, sticky splendor, unfrigginreal

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and then, saw this recipe in the AM newsletter today..these looked so good, figured I'd make some up and toss in fridge for post-prep time..i tweaked it a smidge to my own liking, inserting a metrx big colossal fudge brownie bar that I chopped up in little pieces instead of chocolate chips, and 1 banana instead of 2
actually, I think ima have one today in one of my feedings
per cookie: 147cals, 11.4g protein/17g carbs/5.5g fat


pre-made while mixing

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post-baked

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Gettin leaner 3veryday big dog. I cant believe the progress in your legs. Freak status
 
Cookies look awesome Snags..
oh - the recipe: (my changes/ingredients listed)

Ingredients:

· 2 medium ripe bananas, mashed (used 1 large banana)
· 2 scoops (60g) whey protein powder, unflavoured & unsweetened (used 2 scoops concentrate/isolate hydrolysate mix, both vanilla)
· 1 cup quick oats (used old-fashioned oats)
· 2 tbsp peanut butter, unsalted & softened (used salted natty PB)
· 2 tbsp chocolate chips, mini (metrx big colossal brownie as noted)

Preparation:

1. Preheat oven to 350 degrees.

2. Combine all ingredients together adding chocolate chips the last. The batter consistency depends on how ripe are your bananas. It's OK if it's runny.

3. Spoon mixture onto a baking sheet lined with parchment paper. Bake for 12 minutes. Cool for 5 minutes on the cooling rack.

4. Store in the fridge for up to a couple of weeks or freeze in an air tight container for up to a month. The best way to defrost them is in a microwave. That way the moisture and softness is restored.


Gettin leaner 3veryday big dog. I cant believe the progress in your legs. Freak status
thanks buddy :)
for this show, simply gotta go to new heights..pretty damn ecstatic right now, just focusing on finishing this thing out strong is all
i'm on a mission until pro card is mine, there are no distractions and nothing can get in my way
 
soooo..just had that cookie with last meal, with 1/2c almond milk for dessert -- and I thought that rice earlier was a gooey splendor of an orgasm, dint have nothing on this..snag highly recommends!

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main course was turkey breast on Ezekiel toast, green peppers, Dijon with chardonnay
 
in-day changes pretty substantial today

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that is diet mountain dew on table, fyi :p
I drink those very rarely, and will totally abstain from these after today
 
in-day changes pretty substantial today

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that is diet mountain dew on table, fyi :p
I drink those very rarely, and will totally abstain from these after today

Mmmmmm mtn dew
 
Legs looking insane; my jaw dropped at the massive difference from recent photos.

I love this thread. I learn so much.
 
I love this thread. I learn so much.
awesome ;)
Yeah, it really appears to be messing up your prep... /sarc

:biggthumpup:
lol..well here's the thing: carbonation leeches vitamins & minerals from the skin, and i'm all about nutrition..why do something that takes nutrition away from my body?
will it detract from my appearance? well probably not, but it just goes against the grain of what I do and how I approach prep
even in real life, I always keep these minimal, but every once in awhile they are dew refreshing..love me some diet mountain code red, but I can't seem to find it anymore just regular version (will not do that crap)
water & some tea from here on out for me, some almond milk still in play till last 3 days




today was off-training day, did 30min LISS fasted state upon rising + 5min warm-up/cooldown
tomorrow begins the last 3 days of training for this prep, will be all wrapped up! I don't count glycogen depletion workouts next week, 80% usual intensity wih higher reps and aiming for the pump - that's not really training, that's playing :p
kinda feels good, knowing i'm getting close to completing this thing, and satisfied with all effort/approach in doing so
for the w/e, will be rolling with some HIIT sprints (20min) and LISS (20min), both SAT & SUN
this will be the first time I even thought about HIIT since I slightly tweaked my hammy ~7-8 (??) weeks ago, LISS eod has been doing me just fine..i want me a bit more separation/striation in the legs tho, and still need to tighten up the butt, so sprints it is
 
It's going to be awesome to see what another week, especially w/the added cardio and dietary tweaks will yield.

Will you be manipulating water as well or is there no need to?

Your day to day pics look like you're holding minuscule amounts if any.

Have to agree with everyone else here - tons of great info in this thread. So many people don't understand how drastically the athletes diet needs to differ from a 'normal' American diet. Is it even possible to go out to a restaurant and get a comparable meal to what you're putting together? If it was, would the place even stay in business?

Thanks keeping up with all these great updates
 
It's going to be awesome to see what another week, especially w/the added cardio and dietary tweaks will yield.

Will you be manipulating water as well or is there no need to?

Your day to day pics look like you're holding minuscule amounts if any.

Have to agree with everyone else here - tons of great info in this thread. So many people don't understand how drastically the athletes diet needs to differ from a 'normal' American diet. Is it even possible to go out to a restaurant and get a comparable meal to what you're putting together? If it was, would the place even stay in business?

Thanks keeping up with all these great updates
I appreciate that insight bud :) glad you are enjoying the thread
as for water manipulation - nope, no need to..that is the whole idea basically, behind my drive to be show-ready pretty much ~2 weeks out, so I can avoid all the nonsense/tweaky approaches that more often than not detract from everything you want on stage day: fullness and pump!
water and sodium will be manipulated very minutely and intelligently, and at no time will I ever totally "cut water" off from consumption..same with salt, altho added salt will be avoided on day before show only
all this depletion/carb-load nonsense is for the birds! if you know anything about the body, you understand the body and it's desire to maintain homeostasis is incredibly powerful; the body is comprised of about 70% water, and salt is responsible for the pump - to eliminate these things AT ALL, is simply a bad recipe..but, the problem is, most everyone is not ready far enough out, instead utilizes the final couple weeks for continued fat-loss hardcore, and ends up having to resort to silly measures in order to "swing" the illusion to further leanness
so you get guys wanting to cut water over a 3-day period..avoid salt for days before show..homeostasis will simply catch up too damn quickly when you do this, and you will end up looking flat and depleted..even if you do it in shorter timespan 1-2 days out, you still cannot stay ahead of the bodies ability to adapt and try to recover with opposing actions in the body -- that effectively make the effort totally anti-productive
and then: you got the real crazy stuff happening that some guys do, the potassium overload in combination with salt elimination, building potassium supplementation to insane levels while cutting water/eliminating salt/reduction and elimination of water over multiple-day period -- I mean, this is a damn recipe for a heart attack! I too have been guilty of this, in my first show, advised by my "guru"; and, I felt like straight up ass on stage! blood pressure was whack, electrolytes all messed up, buzzing going on in my head all day long - was not enjoyable, at all, and thankfully that was only time I ever tried that nonsense

so, it's all in the approach, and an understanding of the process..i am incorporating things this prep that I never have, with a totally different mindsest to utilizing the premises I have long considered to be correct, but just could not undertake because (like most everyone else) I was simply not lean enough at the end, and needed that extra "something"
smart, small maneuvering, is all that is needed

My thoughts exactly.

Snagz... How many years have you been doing this?
to what do you refer? :D
training? since I was 12
diet/nutrition? been doing constant self-study and realization since late 90s, and only continue to learn more
contests? this will only be my 4th actual NPC event; I did couple local/city non-organized events ~30y/o, before I jumped in to organized competition

in the last 5-6yrs as well, I have built upon a small business I run, online/prep nutrition guidance & counseling..this has given me further experience on a wide range of factors







notes for today: well the only really "negative" thing this whole prep has been a serious lack of sleep; I mean as a rule, I normally do not sleep much (5-6hrs/night usually), but more often than not I have been in 3-5hr range nightly this entire time - sometimes as little as 1.5hrs, and once I stayed up all night! I never sleep
and last night, was 4hrs..found myself up insanely early (430am), decided to do some fasted LISS upon rising even tho it was scheduled off-day for this..changes in physique are getting scary; I mean, veins at totally new level, muscle density/definition at all-time bests - and yes, blatant obvious improvement from yesterday
this prep is turning into something quite special; I am very, very pleased and excited
soon will be time for last training session of chest/back..ticking down the time gentlemen, we are nearing end of runway on approach..guiding things in very intuitively and intelligently - feelsgoodman :cool2:
 
oh - check out breakfast this morning..
I actually dreamed about this very plate for breakfast; had a hankering something fierce for some shredded wheat (1/2 serving), with vanilla isolate (1/2 scoop ie 17g), 1/2TBS almond butter and 1/2c almond milk mixed in -- omg, delicious!

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also had 5oz turkey breast w/ honey Dijon and 1 slice toasted Ezekiel cinnamon-raisin

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~425cals
 
Weeeeeee! Changes from yesterday are apparent even. And there is that bullet under the skin you talk about.
 
would love to see your shopping list... my meals suck compared to what your eating in contest mode...

i am eating mahi and a sweet potatoe in about 2 hours...

i cant wait to see a snag bulk, the body change results will be great but the food porn will be outrageous..
 
Weeeeeee! Changes from yesterday are apparent even. And there is that bullet under the skin you talk about.
:yup:

would love to see your shopping list... my meals suck compared to what your eating in contest mode...

i am eating mahi and a sweet potatoe in about 2 hours...

i cant wait to see a snag bulk, the body change results will be great but the food porn will be outrageous..
hey mahi+sweet potato sounds great man
a bulk thread huh, hmmmm..y'know, I could do that; after I win my pro card (and then relax/splurge for day or two lol), ima take ~3-4 days off from training totally, then hop into a structured grow period like I never structured it before
I had no plans on running a thread on that, but now you inspired me I think :D
look for it, bro
 
:yup:

hey mahi+sweet potato sounds great man
a bulk thread huh, hmmmm..y'know, I could do that; after I win my pro card (and then relax/splurge for day or two lol), ima take ~3-4 days off from training totally, then hop into a structured grow period like I never structured it before
I had no plans on running a thread on that, but now you inspired me I think :D
look for it, bro

Well you know I'd follow that :-)
 
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hey mahi+sweet potato sounds great man
a bulk thread huh, hmmmm..y'know, I could do that; after I win my pro card (and then relax/splurge for day or two lol), ima take ~3-4 days off from training totally, then hop into a structured grow period like I never structured it before
I had no plans on running a thread on that, but now you inspired me I think :D
look for it, bro

In on that thread b4 its even started lol
 
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hey mahi+sweet potato sounds great man
a bulk thread huh, hmmmm..y'know, I could do that; after I win my pro card (and then relax/splurge for day or two lol), ima take ~3-4 days off from training totally, then hop into a structured grow period like I never structured it before
I had no plans on running a thread on that, but now you inspired me I think :D
look for it, bro

mahi and yam was pretty tasty..

I am starting a structured bulk of 5k cals a day on a blast in about a month... Going to try some DC training with it as well... Pretty excited...
 
Well you know I'd follow that :-)
In on that thread b4 its even started lol
right on, looking forward to it
got all the cool dudes coming to visit me again :box:
I think your so nice, I will follow your log twice.
you had me when you posted the first time in that other thread :love:
hey brother, I really am glad you are following - lots more info over in this thread, this is more like home to me :)

I am starting a structured bulk of 5k cals a day on a blast in about a month... Going to try some DC training with it as well... Pretty excited...
what is your cal maintenance, and what have you been doing now/prior to that endeavor?
 
hmmm on the subject of cals..check this out: I am going to add 100 cals to the diet for last 3 days of training, will be at 2450 today thru friday, before I drop back to 2350 for the w/e cardio-only days, then head into final week approach
been mulling this for past few days, and today I am just kinda dragging (lack of sleep catching up mostly i'm sure), but intuitively it just makes sense, so pulling the trigger on this
won't be too much experimentation going on here rest of way, but this just makes much sense to me, cannot figure any reason NOT to do it really
 
snagencyV2.0;4140014 what is your cal maintenance said:
3300 maintenance at 260 lbs

i have been hovering around 2700 cals a day... Doing morning cardio (hiit) 4 days a week and weights 5 days a week.... I dumped 50 lbs of bacon doing this...

Planning on blasting pretty hard during the bulk, should be fun....
 
3300 maintenance at 260 lbs

i have been hovering around 2700 cals a day... Doing morning cardio (hiit) 4 days a week and weights 5 days a week.... I dumped 50 lbs of bacon doing this...

Planning on blasting pretty hard during the bulk, should be fun....
reason I ask is: imho, majority of guys jump into bulk stage, wayyy too enthusiastically lol
come out of cut, add 2k cals or whatever..you will inevitably add fat, even if eating clean; your body simply isn't set-up to absorb absorb all those cals, and put them where you think they are gonna go
unless you are a fan of bulking with expected fat gain -- I am not, never will be my own approach
smaller increases, gradual as you build metabolism up - think of cutting, where you steadily drop cals as you go the longer you stay in the diet; bulking should be same process, in reverse
just my .02, for you, especially since you did great job losing all that fat to begin with, great job btw :)
 
reason I ask is: imho, majority of guys jump into bulk stage, wayyy too enthusiastically lol
come out of cut, add 2k cals or whatever..you will inevitably add fat, even if eating clean; your body simply isn't set-up to absorb absorb all those cals, and put them where you think they are gonna go
unless you are a fan of bulking with expected fat gain -- I am not, never will be my own approach
smaller increases, gradual as you build metabolism up - think of cutting, where you steadily drop cals as you go the longer you stay in the diet; bulking should be same process, in reverse
just my .02, for you, especially since you did great job losing all that fat to begin with, great job btw :)

ty sir... trying out blast and cruise and this will be my first real blast!!!! I will see how it goes...
 
Well I've got some reading material now for the next week. But first things first... gotta find the NOODZ!
 
Well I've got some reading material now for the next week. But first things first... gotta find the NOODZ!
freaking iowa - forever behind the times and late to the party .... :rolleyes:
ahahaaa, welcome man, glad to see ya drop in, coulda swore you were already here
lots of good stuff in this thread, enjoy
 
freaking iowa - forever behind the times and late to the party .... :rolleyes:
ahahaaa, welcome man, glad to see ya drop in, coulda swore you were already here
lots of good stuff in this thread, enjoy

First let me just say...gawdDAMN yer one sexy beast! (no need to specify homo status) If I look half, no a QUARTER, as good as you do when I'm 43, I'll consider my endeavors a success. Wait, let me just look at those pics again.......I'll brb.
 
unless you are a fan of bulking with expected fat gain -- I am not, never will be my own approach
smaller increases, gradual as you build metabolism up - think of cutting, where you steadily drop cals as you go the longer you stay in the diet; bulking should be same process, in reverse

Definitely interested in following a bulk log of yours after you get the Pro card. For this ^ purpose alone, it should be incredibly enlightening for many of us.

Snag ReDefines Bulking Log

:)
 
Definitely interested in following a bulk log of yours after you get the Pro card. For this ^ purpose alone, it should be incredibly enlightening for many of us.

Snag ReDefines Bulking Log

:)
cool man, yeah bulk logs are not something I typically run - seems no one has any interest unless you are pounding ginormous cals
I've run a few short ones, but I can get behind this idea, bigtime..will be quite the strucutured plan, seeing as how I will simply need to add some fresh lean muscle if ima take next step and compete in pros
the thread name - LOVE IT! :D consider that the name I will call it, very fitting

First let me just say...gawdDAMN yer one sexy beast! (no need to specify homo status) If I look half, no a QUARTER, as good as you do when I'm 43, I'll consider my endeavors a success. Wait, let me just look at those pics again.......I'll brb.
I am pleased with the relative good health and fortune I have had thruout life, considering how active I've been, and the few serious injuries I have suffered overall - altho 2008 (when I feel I was at a peak as natty athlete) onward for couple yrs there, legs took some harsh hits and deterioration
just glad it's not old age! was worried about that, getting brittle, for awhile there
as for my noodz - you stay away from those :nono:
damn freak

In..finally. Should have found this earlier
welcome drewskie
so all these ppl filtering in at the end of this shindig lol....where the hell ya'll been?
better later than never, enjoy the rest of the ride :)






last meal of the day, yum
even with the added cals, had to finagle to get this ~350cal meal in and structured correctly
what you see there is albacore tuna with salsa, covered by 1 egg white
1 serving triscuits (brown rice & sweet potato mix, roasted sweet onion flav)
beans/salad/pomegranate dressing/croutons

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and i'm headed to be before too long, gonna take some benadryl and pass the hell out
been quite a long day, night all
 
cool man, yeah bulk logs are not something I typically run - seems no one has any interest unless you are pounding ginormous cals
I've run a few short ones, but I can get behind this idea, bigtime..will be quite the strucutured plan, seeing as how I will simply need to add some fresh lean muscle if ima take next step and compete in pros
the thread name - LOVE IT! :D consider that the name I will call it, very fitting

I am pleased with the relative good health and fortune I have had thruout life, considering how active I've been, and the few serious injuries I have suffered overall - altho 2008 (when I feel I was at a peak as natty athlete) onward for couple yrs there, legs took some harsh hits and deterioration
just glad it's not old age! was worried about that, getting brittle, for awhile there
as for my noodz - you stay away from those :nono:
damn freak

welcome drewskie
so all these ppl filtering in at the end of this shindig lol....where the hell ya'll been?
better later than never, enjoy the rest of the ride :)

last meal of the day, yum
even with the added cals, had to finagle to get this ~350cal meal in and structured correctly
what you see there is albacore tuna with salsa, covered by 1 egg white
1 serving triscuits (brown rice & sweet potato mix, roasted sweet onion flav)
beans/salad/pomegranate dressing/croutons

and i'm headed to be before too long, gonna take some benadryl and pass the hell out
been quite a long day, night all

Snag I think the best part of your logs are the structure and detail. We all learn so much whether you're cutting maintaining bulking or prepping.
I'm gonna push and hound you for this log :-)

After you get dat pro card it's on. Gonna be fun watching you grow like its SUPPOSED to be done, slow sure and sustainable. Anyone can put on twenty pounds in a couple months (happens every day on here) but they never keep it. I even fell victim to this the last few weeks. Getting things back in track and the mind back in order.
 
I am pleased with the relative good health and fortune I have had thruout life, considering how active I've been, and the few serious injuries I have suffered overall - altho 2008 (when I feel I was at a peak as natty athlete) onward for couple yrs there, legs took some harsh hits and deterioration
just glad it's not old age! was worried about that, getting brittle, for awhile there
as for my noodz - you stay away from those :nono:
damn freak

Seems like there's no way around it... lift weights long enough and you're gonna have injuries. This is one thing I fear because I see the way my dad is now at 60; stiff, sore, injured... he tries to get back into lifting but he knows he'll never come close to what he was and the pain just ends up not being worth it. But then he was a powerlifter and they strain their bodies moreso than any others. I would just hate to work so hard to achieve a goal only to lose it all because of one wrong tweak. And I hear about that happening all the time.
 
Seems like there's no way around it... lift weights long enough and you're gonna have injuries. This is one thing I fear because I see the way my dad is now at 60; stiff, sore, injured... he tries to get back into lifting but he knows he'll never come close to what he was and the pain just ends up not being worth it. But then he was a powerlifter and they strain their bodies moreso than any others. I would just hate to work so hard to achieve a goal only to lose it all because of one wrong tweak. And I hear about that happening all the time.
is why I have my training set up as I do - I have not really lifted "heavy" or power-type training, in a good while now; gotta get smart and adjust, the older you get, most guys do..even going away from all-heavy all the time, you still risk eventual breakdown, lots of factors go into that, but certainly if you structure smartly with an eye toward the future, you can avoid not being able to walk and all the pain associated with physical breakdown in old age, at least reduce likelihood/extent of such
and then the flip: regular exercise indeed is the key to some health markers/physical maintenance as we age
just a smart, balanced approach imo, is what is needed -- in training, and life in general :D
 
quick update for today, couple things to cover..
so Benadryl was not the answer lol..got 4hrs sleep last night, actually awoke 2hrs after I fell out, had to pop another 2 Benadryl to fall asleep again so rest was broken in half; on the flip side tho, I did not awake at all in those 2hrs blocks, so it was a solid 4hrs total..i will take that trade-off, rather than 6-7hrs of fitful, restless sleep..one more night w/o G8 in the mix (currently on my 2-day weekly break) and when it comes back, should hit me pretty hard like it always seems to do after these breaks

felt slightly refreshed this morning; ended up struggling thru last leg day until I picked up momentum halfway thru the training; actually finished up the session pretty damn strong, great pump & tightness as everything was done slow, pinpointedly controlled, and flexed thruout session..wheels looked incredibly tight, additional dryness is blatant everywhere..further striations and cross-striations coming in everywhere (chest is just silly today, arm separation is off the chain), and weight is hanging 185-186

interestingly: so PCT Black and arimistane seem to have given me this dry feeling I've heard everyone talking about, but never experienced myself..upon first trying to move my leg when getting out of bed, my knee exploded in a bolt of pain like nobody's business; then, after s-l-o-w-l-y trying to move it, pow it was 100% fine and functioning normally
very odd, and maybe it's because I had bottom half of me on top of covers, so legs were elevated in wrong position as I had that deep unmoving sleep..not really worried about it, no issues since and leg training was just fine & productive, no pain at all
so of course, I am moving to 4 caps PCT Black for the duration here.... :p will carry this dosage over to PCT as well

adding in those extra cals seemed to have a pretty (positive) dramatic effect, am very glad I rolled this way
these last few days are just gonna be unbelievable gentlemen - serious, I am beyond pleased here, never imagined I could get to this level without injectables, but as I watch it unfold with each and every move I make, I continue to learn more & more, about myself and a lot of things..the neat part is, I feel my level of understanding on things has been raised 10-fold thruout this process, been very fun learning experience
 
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