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Smokers road to 1st plm

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smoker145 said:
Thanks herder. Why the bloody hell does it say qbr on my chart I posted? Rodja is right , I see this now, but I'm still puzzled
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I'm not sure, buddy. Either way, don't be comparing Nick Foles to Peyton Manning unless you'd like to express that they're both quarterbacks or they're both tall. It makes you look silly. And don't mention numbers. 53% of statistics are misleading.

Lies, damned lies, and statistics. We want to respect your opinion, just give us a chance to.
 
herderdude said:
I'm not sure, buddy. Either way, don't be comparing Nick Foles to Peyton Manning unless you'd like to express that they're both quarterbacks or they're both tall. It makes you look silly. And don't mention numbers. 53% of statistics are misleading. Lies, damned lies, and statistics. We want to respect your opinion, just give us a chance to.
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Gotcha bro. I was mislead. With baseball approaching you'll like my stuff better. 10x bigger baseball fan then football. I really know my baseball
 
smoker145 said:
Gotcha bro. I was mislead. With baseball approaching you'll like my stuff better. 10x bigger baseball fan then football. I really know my baseball
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I hope you're right. Who is the best hitter in baseball?
 
smoker145 said:
Miggy. It has to be. Probably the best I've ever seen
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Whew, good. Just had to make sure we're getting off on the right foot. Baseball season is much longer than football season, after all.
 
herderdude said:
Whew, good. Just had to make sure we're getting off on the right foot. Baseball season is much longer than football season, after all.
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Lol. That's one of the reasons why I like baseball so much. Only thing I don't like about it is the hof. Don't agree that ped users shouldn't be allowed in.

Also think the guy with the most hits in history shiukd be in as well. Sure go ahead and still ban him, but give him the plaque for gods sake
 
Rodja said:
There is hope for you, but Bonds is the best overall hitter I've ever seen. Manny is his prime would be the best right handed batter.
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Over arod? I think arod was better than manny. Although I'm sure manny has much better postseason numbers.

09 was arods shinning moment, but all the other years he was pretty bad. Jeez torre even made him bat 7th in 07
 
smoker145 said:
Over arod? I think arod was better than manny. Although I'm sure manny has much better postseason numbers.

09 was arods shinning moment, but all the other years he was pretty bad. Jeez torre even made him bat 7th in 07
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A Rod has a lot of junk stats. He padded his numbers on a bunch of bad teams and seldom delivered in the clutch.
 
Rodja said:
A Rod has a lot of junk stats. He padded his numbers on a bunch of bad teams and seldom delivered in the clutch.
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As a Yankee fan I agree he was not clutch except 09. Manny was a very dangerous hitter, and in their primes in a big spot, I would take manny.

Stats wise thou arod beats out. Shame how manny went out, and now arod may never play again. It's certainly possible the yanks just buy his contract out. Not sure if anyone would take him and not sure if he'd accept a minor league deal. After his year suspension I'm talking bout
 
Yeah, baseball is awesome, MLB sucks. Bud Selig is an idiot, I choose to look past that moron.

A-Rod has a lot of bombs and whatnot, but except for Seattle, he was in a bunch of hitter friendly parks. Also, smoker was a toddler during some of Manny's best years.
 
herderdude said:
Yeah, baseball is awesome, MLB sucks. A-Rod has a lot of bombs and whatnot, but except for Seattle, he was in a bunch of hitter friendly parks. Also, smoker was a toddler during some of Manny's best years.
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Lol I remember him best from 03-07 with the sox. He was a machine. But yea I missed out on a lot of great hitters and pitchers, like Clemens for the most part, McGwire, Sosa, frank Thomas, Bernie Williams, Maddox, ... Too many guys to even list.
 
smoker145 said:
As a Yankee fan I agree he was not clutch except 09. Manny was a very dangerous hitter, and in their primes in a big spot, I would take manny. Stats wise thou arod beats out. Shame how manny went out, and now arod may never play again. It's certainly possible the yanks just buy his contract out. Not sure if anyone would take him and not sure if he'd accept a minor league deal. After his year suspension I'm talking bout
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You have an unhealthy obsession with stats. Great hitters don't just have great stats; they also make those around them better. Jeff Kent won an MVP because of Bonds. Ortiz was waived by Minnesota because he was that bad. He gets protected by Manny and he emerged.
 
smoker145 said:
Lol I remember him best from 03-07 with the sox. He was a machine. But yea I missed out on a lot of great hitters and pitchers, like Clemens for the most part, McGwire, Sosa, frank Thomas, Bernie Williams, Maddox, ... Too many guys to even list.
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Whoop. You did it again. Bernie Williams. Excellent ballplayer, not in the category of the other guys you listed.
 
Rodja said:
Bingo. That would be like lumping Berkman in with other HoF'ers of his generation.
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Bernie was an awesome Yankee. Not quite a hof by the numbers, but his postseason performances were always great and the man was clutch as clutch can be. He's a great to me.. Not hof thou. Probably needed few more years to increase his numbers, he retired young for baseball. Awesome switch hitter too.
 
Rodja said:
You have an unhealthy obsession with stats. Great hitters don't just have great stats; they also make those around them better. Jeff Kent won an MVP because of Bonds. Ortiz was waived by Minnesota because he was that bad. He gets protected by Manny and he emerged.
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I agree that that is one of the measurements of a great hitter. But you can't ignore his phenomenal stats.
Ortiz was still young when he was released by Minnesota. His first year in Boston his power numbers improved, but that's not surprising.

Really he started raking when his pa went way up, and yea I'm sure some protection had something to do with it

anyone who has 600+ homers, almost 3000 hits ( he can get it if he plays a full season), is number 5 on the ALL TIME RBI list is a great hitter, 14x all star 3x al MVP. That's a hof career If he plays again, most likely he'll be number 3 on the RBI list.
 
smoker145 said:
Bernie was an awesome Yankee. Not quite a hof by the numbers, but his postseason performances were always great and the man was clutch as clutch can be. He's a great to me.. Not hof thou. Probably needed few more years to increase his numbers, he retired young for baseball. Awesome switch hitter too.
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How can you be a great and not a HoF'er? That's a complete contradiction.
 
Bernie Williams wasn't even the best Yankee in the outfield in the 90s. I think Paul O'Neill was better.
 
herderdude said:
Bernie Williams wasn't even the best Yankee in the outfield in the 90s. I think Paul O'Neill was better.
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He came up in the mid 90s. Oneil was still raking, but Bernie was more clutch. But the warrior is always a favorite of mine
 
215x5 pr with fat bar. Benched with Brian reed. Pretty ****ing sweet

He gave me critiques of course and really emphasized driving through the heels with me. I was pretty happy. A bit intimidating seeing all the guys with huge numbers. One guy was like " yea I think I'm just gonna pause 500 today raw"
 
smoker145 said:
Cause of political stuff, not because of his numbers
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More like being a fraud and a liar. Being a douche like Belle becomes political; A-Rod will leave the game disgraced and a picture of what happens when you're a megalomaniac in the same mold of Lance Armstrong.
 
Rodja said:
More like being a fraud and a liar. Being a douche like Belle becomes political; A-Rod will leave the game disgraced and a picture of what happens when you're a megalomaniac in the same mold of Lance Armstrong.
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I don't care who does roids. I bet many players are doing something illegal. If your discrediting arod, you have to for manny as well. I don't Bc I don't care
 
smoker145 said:
I don't care who does roids. I bet many players are doing something illegal. If your discrediting arod, you have to for manny as well. I don't Bc I don't care
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It has nothing to do with PEDs; it's the deception and manipulation. It's the same with Braun. I don't give a damn that he popped twice. What makes him a huge piece of **** is essentially destroying the sample guy's career.
 
Rodja said:
It has nothing to do with PEDs; it's the deception and manipulation. It's the same with Braun. I don't give a damn that he popped twice. What makes him a huge piece of **** is essentially destroying the sample guy's career.
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I agree about Braun. I will in no way defend what he did. I think he should pay him a years salary Bc of what he did.

Who did arod hurt? Bosch ? Lol I don't care about a drug dealer
 
smoker145 said:
I agree about Braun. I will in no way defend what he did. I think he should pay him a years salary Bc of what he did. Who did arod hurt? Bosch ? Lol I don't care about a drug dealer
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If you really think that he hasn't **** on multiple people in the course of his career, then you're severely naive.
 
Rodja said:
If you really think that he hasn't **** on multiple people in the course of his career, then you're severely naive.
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he threw his catcher under the bus either last yr or the yr before. "he took it, but i didn't"

piece of shyt

the 60 minutes thing last night was brilliant...
 
napalm said:
he threw his catcher under the bus either last yr or the yr before. "he took it, but i didn't" piece of shyt the 60 minutes thing last night was brilliant...
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Lol that you believe everything a drug dealer says. He was cut a deal with mlb, and his lawyers and pr rep are paid for by mlb.
 
I hope it gets accepted to go to court. I want to see everything they have. I want to know if the evidence they obtain illegally will stand up. I want to see it. They keep making claims and this and that.. Why not just make public these. " mountains of evidence".
 
60 minutes is not that great. You can't believe everything you hear. Hell arod denied use of 60 minutes years ago. Did we all believe him?
 
jimbuick said:
And you're taking a drug users word for it, a man who broke a contract he signed and refused to follow the rules of the organization he works for.
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And you think he's the only one? I'm not denying use. I'm sure he did. But a years suspension is unprecedented. What he tried to buy evidence? You mean the same thing mlb did illegally?

I think it should be 100 games. Selig clearly tried to clean up the mess he allowed years ago. Arod was his example... Little too late bud
 
smoker145 said:
And you think he's the only one? I'm not denying use. I'm sure he did. But a years suspension is unprecedented. What he tried to buy evidence? You mean the same thing mlb did illegally? I think it should be 100 games. Selig clearly tried to clean up the mess he allowed years ago. Arod was his example... Little too late bud
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You think A-Rod's suspension should be less than Braun's!? GTFO!
 
smoker145 said:
Braun got 65. Arod gets 162. He should get 100. Check your facts
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Likewise. I misspoke about the suspension part and meant to say shouldn't be significantly more considering everything that has gone on around him. A year-long suspension is far from unprecedented in pro sports and this is easily the best case to bring it to MLB.

Your statements are full on contradictions and you inconsistently take sides in this manner. You can't condemn Bosch without doing the same to A-Rod as they're both just as guilty of trying to cover up and cheat the system.
 
Since when does trying to conver things up become more games? Melky got 50 games still for crafting a fake website to cover his tracks. No additional games were added.
 
I gotta admit thinking drug user is greater than dealer moral wise is kind of silly man.

: popcorn :
 
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