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Smash the competition 5/4 & 6/8

Lukef2000 said:
Hey DD if you've got that graph I would like to look at it man. I suggested for someone to frontload a short ester and got flamed hard for it, would be nice to have something to show if it comes up again.
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You got it guys. The nice thing with say prop or ace instead of enanth or cyp is you don't have to fronload super high dose or as long but 1-2 double injections gives you 2 extra days of high blood levels in a burst. As we know 2 days is a lot of time if you are only blasting for 4 weeks and lifting 5-6 days a week.

Headed to lift my AM session right now but I will get it up afterwards.
 
DangerDave said:
I like around 250mg test and 700mg tren. I get no bad sides and freaky at that dose. Yes preload the first few days. It gets you to a large blood concentration faster and makes you have a steadier blood level the entire time. I can try and post up a graph of blood levels for you to show with and without preloading to explain.

Remember the test is just there for sexual function and organ function. The tren is what makes you gain and lose fat not test. A lot of guys pine 300mg of prop and 1g of tren weeks out from contest and results are amazing
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Hey Dave..We're pretty much on the same page. I'm doing 750 tren ace per week with 200 test e in the background. Oh, a little dbol too, 100mgs per day. Libido has never, ever been so high. Lady Gaga even looks good to me right now!... I have no real sides, just flu-like symptoms at times, typical of any cycle on any gear where you abuse the gear and your body gets toxic.
 
DetroitHammer said:
Hey Dave..We're pretty much on the same page. I'm doing 750 tren ace per week with 200 test e in the background. Oh, a little dbol too, 100mgs per day. Libido has never, ever been so high. Lady Gaga even looks good to me right now!... I have no real sides, just flu-like symptoms at times, typical of any cycle on any gear where you abuse the gear and your body gets toxic.
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Nice! Yeah my test E is 300mg/ml but I barely see a difference from 250mg. I am also beyond horny Haha. I was running dbol but out of nowhere my right nipple got sensitive so I dropped it about 3 days ago and I'm fine now but I brought in 50mg of winny and might bump it to 100mg next week if my joints feel fine. Dbol has never given me issues but this is a new source so who knows whats up.
 
This one is Tren A EOD at 150mg with no frontloading or preload.
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This is Tren A EOD at 150mg with a 2 Day Frontload on Day 1 and 2 of 250mg, 200mg respectivly

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Ok here is how I like running my Tren A. Injecting every day at 100mg, and a preload of 300mg on Cycle day "-1" and 250mg Cycle day "0"
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In the first 2 examples my blood levels have spiked and gotten the highest they will get around day 6-7. If I preload (last example) I cut 3 days off that and around day 2-3 my levels are perfect. On another note, the last example has the highest levels and if you look at the other 2 they dont really deviate from one another besides the frontload but example 2 has a slightly higher blood concentration. I also want to note the saw effect of levels, they are ok... kinda. Drastic drops and spikes will not be fun but these examples it is not very major so you would barely notice. One way to not really notice is by injecting everyday at the same time. I lift in the evenings so morning is best for me.

I can email the excel spreadsheet that does this just pm me. Sorry Smash for the hijack. I'm done now
 
DangerDave said:
This one is Tren A EOD at 150mg with no frontloading or preload.
<img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=78233"/>

This is Tren A EOD at 150mg with a 2 Day Frontload on Day 1 and 2 of 250mg, 200mg respectivly

<img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=78234"/>

Ok here is how I like running my Tren A. Injecting every day at 100mg, and a preload of 300mg on Cycle day "-1" and 250mg Cycle day "0"
<img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=78235"/>

In the first 2 examples my blood levels have spiked and gotten the highest they will get around day 6-7. If I preload (last example) I cut 3 days off that and around day 2-3 my levels are perfect. On another note, the last example has the highest levels and if you look at the other 2 they dont really deviate from one another besides the frontload but example 2 has a slightly higher blood concentration. I also want to note the saw effect of levels, they are ok... kinda. Drastic drops and spikes will not be fun but these examples it is not very major so you would barely notice. One way to not really notice is by injecting everyday at the same time. I lift in the evenings so morning is best for me.

I can email the excel spreadsheet that does this just pm me. Sorry Smash for the hijack. I'm done now
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Thanks for that man that's some good info right there. I'll be running some tren a in a couple months, will probably need your advice around then lol I have to run it slightly different than I would like.
 
Day: 44 - 22 days out

Weight: 185

Frequency and intensity is up, and I'm looking bigger even without gaining weight. I think it might be fat loss or water weight. I look pretty shredded. I'd be updating more frequently but my am phone app isnt working, the last week every time I logged it "crashed." Kind of kills you when you lose all your text. Photos still wont upload.

I started tren a last night, but I'm only frontloading with 100mg/day for three days. Then itll be 40mg/day tell competition. I've been taking 200mg test400 and 150mg eq eod, and switched from masteron to proviron - not cause I want to, my mast broke when it fell on the floor.

3 weeks out
---------S---M---T---W---Th---F---S
Test400--200--0---200--0---200--0---200
Eq------150--0---150--0---150--0---150
Tren----100--40---40--40---40--40---40
Proviron--50--50---50--50---50--50---50
2 weeks out
---------S---M---T---W---Th---F---S
Test400---0--100--0---100--0---100--0
Tren-----40--40---40--40---40--40---40
Proviron--50--50---50--50---50--50---50
1 week out
---------S---M---T---W---Th---F---S
Test400--100--0---0---0----0----0---0
Test p----0---75--75--75---0----0---0
Tren-----40--40---40--40---40--40---40
Proviron--50--50---50--50---50--50---50
Exem----25--25---25--25---25--25---25
 
Ahh! I know the feeling of dropping a bottle bro... Lol did that last cycle. But all in all you will shred up no matter what!
 
madds87 said:
Did you try to suck it up in a syringe!?
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I licked it off the ground... then taped it off like a murder scene. My floor has a broken vial chalk outline.
 
Day: 53 - 12 days out

Weight: 185

The only thing I dont like about tren is it makes me break out like crazy. My back looks terrible. Im going to start taking pantethine again. Other than that every lift is up in weight and repetition, and I'm pretty lean. Going to start cutting carbs now, but only a little bit.
 
Day: 53 - 12 days out

Weight: 185

The only thing I dont like about tren is it makes me break out like crazy. My back looks terrible. Im going to start taking pantethine again. Other than that every lift is up in weight and repetition, and I'm pretty lean. Going to start cutting carbs now, but only a little bit.
 
I found fir the tren acne Clearasil ultra face scrub 2 even 3 times a day keeps it off me. I get it bad on chest and shoulders if I don't use it but tren acne usually comes at 700mg+ per week for me.
 
DangerDave said:
I found fir the tren acne Clearasil ultra face scrub 2 even 3 times a day keeps it off me. I get it bad on chest and shoulders if I don't use it but tren acne usually comes at 700mg+ per week for me.
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Ya and Im only using 280mg/week... Is that something that gets better over time or will my skin always break out the same? Does your skin get less sensitive to it with time? Im going through all the measures but I cant help that I sweat so much, and I know I make it worse when I mess with it but Ive been getting some mean ones. Im pretty sure its the tren making me hot and sweaty right?

Anyways I dropped the test after last week. Was hoping that might help a bit. Also tren doesn't effect my libido at all like deca, and I actually feel less agressive than when I'm on masteron. Does tren mess with your dreams? In general its really not what I expected at all.
 
smash1904 said:
Ya and Im only using 280mg/week... Is that something that gets better over time or will my skin always break out the same? Does your skin get less sensitive to it with time? Im going through all the measures but I cant help that I sweat so much, and I know I make it worse when I mess with it but Ive been getting some mean ones. Im pretty sure its the tren making me hot and sweaty right?

Anyways I dropped the test after last week. Was hoping that might help a bit. Also tren doesn't effect my libido at all like deca, and I actually feel less agressive than when I'm on masteron. Does tren mess with your dreams? In general its really not what I expected at all.
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Yeah it messes with dreams hard. I have violent serial killer dreams that are really vivid lol.

It doesnt clear up for me just worse honestly. Tanning, clearasil and maybe acne scrub and i stay pretty clear. To see the best results i like test around 150mg ew and tren 700+. I am a freak and dont get bad sides like most so im a poor example. Seek out detroithammer about that, hes a tren junkie like me and has experimented alot and knows his stuff really well. He might have more insight for you bro.
 
DangerDave said:
Yeah it messes with dreams hard. I have violent serial killer dreams that are really vivid lol.

It doesnt clear up for me just worse honestly. Tanning, clearasil and maybe acne scrub and i stay pretty clear. To see the best results i like test around 150mg ew and tren 700+. I am a freak and dont get bad sides like most so im a poor example. Seek out detroithammer about that, hes a tren junkie like me and has experimented alot and knows his stuff really well. He might have more insight for you bro.
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Ya tanning helps me a bunch, just started doing that again. And ya the dreams ive been having are crazy and really vivid. My fiancee says ive been grabbing at her and thrashing around in my sleep. She also says I'm really hot, like heat radiates off me and makes her sweat. Lethargy is kinda growing too. I feel heavy and tired except at the gym.
 
Day: 56

Weight: 187

I am looking a little bloated, have some water retention in my face, Im hoping the exem will take care of that. The vascularity is pretty nutty, and my legs are getting thick - never really had definition there before. Strength is way up, energy is down. Im pretty sleepy all the time so im taking a lot of dmaa and caffeine.
 
Day: 68 - 4 days after competition

Weight: 190

So the competition had come and gone and I wasnt able to get my finances straightened out in time to register. I pretty much waited tell the day before to see whether I'd be able to get the money together, but it didnt happen. I kept training as though I was about to compete, and I didnt let the money issue discourage me - the only thing Ive changed since Saturday is I'm no longer watching my calories, and started bulking again. Ive been so hungry and cutting my carbs was killing me. Im in the gym 3 days on 1 day off, volume is high, as is intensity, and upon my return from my overseas visit will be looking for another competition. Im not letting up tell I leave the country but will be gone for close to two weeks.

I dropped the tren, started the test again but only at 200mg/week as well as tbol and proviron at 50mg/day. I want to keep the doses low and keep things mild for a couple weeks for health reasons, I also want to do a blood draw soon to see whats going on inside me. Dont think I'm going to pct, at least not anytime soon cause I'd rather blast and pulse.
 
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