Side Effects Noticed from AP

When i tested YG not 30 mins after taking it i would have to run to the bathroom and drop a nuke. In my log i talk about how YG was really messing with me. What i did was drop the dosage down to two caps a day. That still didn't help with the nuke droping so i would stop taking YG on the weekends. I can't remember if i did that for one week or two but afterwards i was able to up the dosage back to 3 a day with no negative side effects. One of the cool things that i noticed was how my muscles felt by sunday without taking YG. I could feel my muscles filling up and i wanted to flex all the time. It was a really cool feeling.
I am currently taking AP 3 a day with cialabol 6 a day with no negative sides.. I think if you are sensitive to the product your body will build up a tolerance to the negative sides... so in brief.. press on my man...
 
Side effects so far (3 days in):

I just can't make my stomach bloat after carbs.

I'm looking leaner yet fuller (same effect as YG beta); can see the outline of the outside of the abdominals, which I lost due to holiday eating (I have never seen my abs, the closest I have been is the outside outline of all 6).

I find myself constantly needing more water, as I have dark circles under my eyes.

No effect on strength/endurance yet.

No diarrhea, no gastrointestinal stress.

I'm worried about the immunosuppressant effects of phello; since the first day of dosing (and for awhile after each dose) I feel run-down. I have this weird white spot on the back of my throat that hurts, and my mucus/phlegm is very thick. Even my dentist commented that my phlegm was thick. But, of course, being only 3 days in tells me nothing, as this could clear up on its own. However, this is not like any sickness I have had before.
 
WHY do all these people take a supplement and HAVE OBVIOUS health problems and KEEP taking the supplements!

PEOPLE SEE A DOCTOR! IT IS NOT NORMAL TO HAVE DIARHEA! IT IS NOT NORMAL to have an illness for longer than 7 days! IT IS NOT NORMAL to have dark brown circles under your eyes!

YOUR BODY DOES NOT LIKE WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO IT! ITS not the SUPPLEMENTS, ITS YOU!

and did no one notice that BullS**T is the username of the guy that first posted about diarhea? Coincidence? I think it was written in the stars! :toofunny:
 
first off i wanna say that usplabs is a great company, i have had great results from cissus and powerfull. I too have had gas, constipation and diarhea since i have began taking anabolic pump a little over a week ago. It not full out diarhea but more like soft, sometimes watery, ****s. And I have bad gas, I am going to continue on the ap for a little longer and see if this goes away. Are there any other reasons that anyone can think of that this may be happening? I am also going to start drinking as much water as i can possibly stand. I am taking my ap with a turanabol and superdrol cycle. I am hoping for some very good results. I have low bf, around 5%, and I am using the ap in hopes to keep any bloat to a minimum and gain more muscle, not to lean up.
 
hurdlemaker said:
first off i wanna say that usplabs is a great company, i have had great results from cissus and powerfull. I too have had gas, constipation and diarhea since i have began taking anabolic pump a little over a week ago. It not full out diarhea but more like soft, sometimes watery, ****s. And I have bad gas, I am going to continue on the ap for a little longer and see if this goes away. Are there any other reasons that anyone can think of that this may be happening? I am also going to start drinking as much water as i can possibly stand. I am taking my ap with a turanabol and superdrol cycle. I am hoping for some very good results. I have low bf, around 5%, and I am using the ap in hopes to keep any bloat to a minimum and gain more muscle, not to lean up.
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Not sure how AP will help with bloating. What did you eat before dosing AP?
 
I tested my tolerance to AP over the last week by taking 4 doses per day. I am sensitive to many things on an empty stomach...such as ALCAR.

However I have had zero problems with AP. It is not harsh in the least on my constitution. I even took 2 caps at once to test tolerance and still there were no problems.
 
So far no negative sides...I have had some really nasty gas but I am pretty sure that is from the whey protien and oats! :)
 
When I first started taking Cialabol I was handcuffed to the toilet for a couple days. So I increased my fiber and water intake and haven't had any problems since. Throw a little toasted oat bran in your shakes and see if that doesn't help.

I've noticed I do not get the hypo feeling with AP as with Cialabol, but I never had the same pumps with Cialabol as with AP. Cialabol hit hard within 5 minutes after dosing, but nothing with AP. I can tell its working b/c I'm eating more and thinning out, and I'm not complaining just wondering why. I know they're not the same products but thought they had similar ingredients.
 
USPLabs said:
Not sure how AP will help with bloating. What did you eat before dosing AP?
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i was taking it 15 min before a lot of carbs, this morning i took it and then had a shake made up of a banana, 6 strawberries, one packet of oatmeal, cycle support, 2 scoops whey protein, 10 ounces of milk and 2 tablespoons of peanut butter. i felt alright afterwards, but then at the gym i got really weak feeling and felt like I was about to black out. I was doing heavy squats and after the 6th set I had to stop and go home. I was doing sets of 20 with heavy weight, so it was very strenuous. Im not really sure whats going on, idk if i should stop taking the ap, or just drink more fluids and have more fiber and start eating like a horse. I really want to stick with it because so many people have seen such positive results. I actually went and got gas-x last night and that is helping me feel a little better. I was actually thinking about starting a log, I have been writing everything down in a notebook. I figure if i stick with it and end up seeing positive results it would help out other people who might be getting the same or similar side effects.
 
hurdlemaker said:
i was taking it 15 min before a lot of carbs, this morning i took it and then had a shake made up of a banana, 6 strawberries, one packet of oatmeal, cycle support, 2 scoops whey protein, 10 ounces of milk and 2 tablespoons of peanut butter. i felt alright afterwards, but then at the gym i got really weak feeling and felt like I was about to black out. I was doing heavy squats and after the 6th set I had to stop and go home. I was doing sets of 20 with heavy weight, so it was very strenuous. Im not really sure whats going on, idk if i should stop taking the ap, or just drink more fluids and have more fiber and start eating like a horse. I really want to stick with it because so many people have seen such positive results. I actually went and got gas-x last night and that is helping me feel a little better. I was actually thinking about starting a log, I have been writing everything down in a notebook. I figure if i stick with it and end up seeing positive results it would help out other people who might be getting the same or similar side effects.
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Are you very lean already?
 
yeah man, heres a pic my gf took the other day on her phone, i usually stay right around 5% bf, right now im 6'1" 195lbs

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hurdlemaker said:
yeah man, heres a pic my gf took the other day on her phone, i usually stay right around 5% bf, right now im 6'1" 195lbs

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Exactly what I thought. Your muscles are super insulin sensitive without AP. The addition of AP means increase carb intake BIG time.

You need more carbs! I would think about including some simple sugars in the mix from honey or white rice or white pasta.

You could even reduce the doseage or sip on a carb/bcaa drink during your workout. Actually I would add in the carb bcaa mix during a workout in your case.
 
Hurdlemaker.... you're really lean so you know what you're doing but...
Who does that many sets with 20 reps...especially for squats?
Unless you have goals other than gaining size..e.g. increasing VO2 max or strengthening type 1 muscle fibers.
Or I could imagine that would be an effective HIIT program for fat loss....
 
Proteinpowda said:
Hurdlemaker.... you're really lean so you know what you're doing but...
Who does that many sets with 20 reps...especially for squats?
Unless you have goals other than gaining size..e.g. increasing VO2 max or strengthening type 1 muscle fibers.
Or I could imagine that would be an effective HIIT program for fat loss....
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actually arnold schwarzenegger did, its a good way to shock the quads, i mean i went up to 365lbs for 20 reps. I usually do a pyramid 15,12,10,8 but i wanted to mix it up.

also i drink gatorade with bcaas in it when i work out anyways, i think i just need to go carb crazy. Before workouts i drink gatorade mixed with chaos, i think im going to start eating a lot of pasta and rice when i take the ap. Thanks for the help and advice guys!
 
Update:

Well, I too have been getting the loose ****s. In addition, I have been getting serious feelings of just being wiped-out, almost sick. This happened the worst when I was up to 3 caps a day.

I cessated all AP and was back to normal in a day.

I started it back up again, when I dose 2x a day I still get those sick feelings.

My water intake is high as always and my carb intake for the meals I dose AP with are high.

In addition, I find that if I dose AP WITH a meal, instead of previous to it, that I do not get the sick, wiped out feeling.

I took YG beta and never had these issues, so I can only guess it has something to do with the change in the tannins complex (unless something else from the beta has changed).

I have yet to see any effects from it yet because I am unable to dose as necessary as I should. I did get the leaning-out effect when I initially started dosing and was up to 3 caps/day.

Gonna ride this out awhile longer (I have three bottles, why not) and prolly will adjust dosing to just 1x per day with my largest carb meal.
 
Enigma76 said:
Update:

Well, I too have been getting the loose ****s. In addition, I have been getting serious feelings of just being wiped-out, almost sick. This happened the worst when I was up to 3 caps a day.

I cessated all AP and was back to normal in a day.

I started it back up again, when I dose 2x a day I still get those sick feelings.

My water intake is high as always and my carb intake for the meals I dose AP with are high.

In addition, I find that if I dose AP WITH a meal, instead of previous to it, that I do not get the sick, wiped out feeling.

I took YG beta and never had these issues, so I can only guess it has something to do with the change in the tannins complex (unless something else from the beta has changed).

I have yet to see any effects from it yet because I am unable to dose as necessary as I should. I did get the leaning-out effect when I initially started dosing and was up to 3 caps/day.

Gonna ride this out awhile longer (I have three bottles, why not) and prolly will adjust dosing to just 1x per day with my largest carb meal.
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In that case, I would take if with the meal. Please report back.
 
I have been taking AP at a dose of 3 caps a day on non workout days, and 4 caps on workout days.

I usually workout somewhere between 1 and 4 pm. I will take AP with breakfast and 40g carbs. Pre workout with 45g carbs, and post with 50g carbs, and before bed with f.f.c.c., almonds, and green beans so only about 25g carbs there.

Should also note that I am 225 pounds and cutting at 3k cals a day.
 
rysigpi said:
I have been taking AP at a dose of 3 caps a day on non workout days, and 4 caps on workout days.

I usually workout somewhere between 1 and 4 pm. I will take AP with breakfast and 40g carbs. Pre workout with 45g carbs, and post with 50g carbs, and before bed with f.f.c.c., almonds, and green beans so only about 25g carbs there.
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what are your initial thoughts?
 
Keeping good energy and have felt going slightly hypo a couple times if I go much longer than 20 min before my carbs. Pumps in the gym are pretty sick. When doing biceps or triceps I get so pumped in my forearms and my whole arms get swollen. Strength has been going up on most all exercises and that is good for me since I am dieting.

I was losing about 2 pounds a week with my diet for the first 3 weeks steadily dropping cals. I added in AP and keep everything the same. Only dropped .5 pounds the next week but was leaner and went down a notch on the weight belt.

So far so good and its only been like 10 days now :bb2:
 
USPLabs said:
Exactly what I thought. Your muscles are super insulin sensitive without AP. The addition of AP means increase carb intake BIG time.

You need more carbs! I would think about including some simple sugars in the mix from honey or white rice or white pasta.

You could even reduce the doseage or sip on a carb/bcaa drink during your workout. Actually I would add in the carb bcaa mix during a workout in your case.
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So what's up here?

Are dude's muscles hording all the glucose and leaving none for the liver?
Is this why you recommend honey, since its fructose, and fructose fill up the liver instead of the muscles?

Cause I've definitley seen some composition/fullness changes but my workout energy has gone down.
 
hurdlemaker said:
yeah man, heres a pic my gf took the other day on her phone, i usually stay right around 5% bf, right now im 6'1" 195lbs

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You tease I wanted a pic of your girl, not of a dude in a towel!! :gas:
 
USPLabs said:
In that case, I would take if with the meal. Please report back.
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Okay, had dinner, consisting of last night's roast (beef), a baked sweet potato, broccoli rabe and half a piece of butternut squash (baked).

Had one AP immediately prior to eating.

Had ZERO effects that I reported previously, no feeling sick/wiped-out. In addition (this has happened twice now when dosing AP with the meal as opposed to previously) I do not get diarrhea when dosing with a meal; when dosing prior to a meal, I usually will get some degree of diarrhea.


For those with digestion problems, maybe try dosing with food instead of before.



Also to note, today in the gym my vascularity was better than it ever has been in my life. I doubt I'm actually leaner and can see the veins better now (its only been a couple days), so AP must be having some involvement with an increase in blood vessel dilation.

Typically my veins "pop" when I lift an object (DB/BB doing any holding motion, ie deadlifts, rows, curls, etc) and then "unpop" when I put the weight down. However, todays workout (back/bis) had my arms being very vascular, with standing bi/forearm veins.
 
I have also noticed that I will go to the bathroom like clockwork. Its not diarrhea, but softer than normal. Always about 30 min. after taking the AP....except before bed....
 
Ive got a very sensative gut. Creatine usually ruins me..Any way started three pills of Ap daily. Two weeks in and no stomach issues. I have taken it before and during meals. No hypo feeling like I used to get with vanadyl. So far nothing else postive to report.
 
rysigpi said:
I have also noticed that I will go to the bathroom like clockwork. Its not diarrhea, but softer than normal. Always about 30 min. after taking the AP....except before bed....
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I have been using the AP beta for about 3.5 months and I still get this.
 
I like to take the weekends off from AP, not really by choice, but just cuz I'm not at home. Monday morning though right when I start back up I always have the semi-squirts 45 minutes after taking it and eating. Weird
 
hurdlemaker said:
yeah man, heres a pic my gf took the other day on her phone, i usually stay right around 5% bf, right now im 6'1" 195lbs

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5% is absolutely shredded to the bone. You are probably 8%, no big deal. You said you were taking turanabol, which is notorious for giving horrible gas, so that could be your culprit.
 
so heres a example of how people are different---I take 4 caps per day [2 before dinner] Im 6.3/ 260lbs----15%BF?--and instead of the craps AP kinda gives me the oppisite problem and I use medimusal to boot----I may be hypothyroid with slow metab---so Im workin on that with different dosages of thyroid med [self prescribed] so once I regulate may return to normal?
 
skull said:
so heres a example of how people are different---I take 4 caps per day [2 before dinner] Im 6.3/ 260lbs----15%BF?--and instead of the craps AP kinda gives me the oppisite problem and I use medimusal to boot----I may be hypothyroid with slow metab---so Im workin on that with different dosages of thyroid med [self prescribed] so once I regulate may return to normal?
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why would you take 2 before dinner? are you eating like 200g carbs at dinner? If you absolutely insist on taking 4, then why not take 1 with a different meal?
 
BOHICA said:
You tease I wanted a pic of your girl, not of a dude in a towel!! :gas:
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sorry man, didnt mean to mislead u, maybe ill post up a pic of her later, lol

Alexander said:
5% is absolutely shredded to the bone. You are probably 8%, no big deal. You said you were taking turanabol, which is notorious for giving horrible gas, so that could be your culprit.
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u might be right, heres a pic of me flexing(its a few months old) , but maybe it is just a lil higher than 5%, ive been tested many times and the highest ive ever had when tested was 6.8%, but i know this isnt completely accurate. Also thanks for the tip on the gas, u may be right on that too, lol

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macedaddy said:
why would you take 2 before dinner? are you eating like 200g carbs at dinner? If you absolutely insist on taking 4, then why not take 1 with a different meal?
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That would be my approach.
 
skull said:
so heres a example of how people are different---I take 4 caps per day [2 before dinner] Im 6.3/ 260lbs----15%BF?--and instead of the craps AP kinda gives me the oppisite problem and I use medimusal to boot----I may be hypothyroid with slow metab---so Im workin on that with different dosages of thyroid med [self prescribed] so once I regulate may return to normal?
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If you're not hypothyroid and you cease the thyroid meds you're going to down-regulate your metabolism. I wouldn't be asking this question on this board without a PROPER diagnosis or at least some bloodwork. Self-medicating (especially t4 or t3) is not always that safe....Just go for a physical and tell the doc you're feeling sluggish and stuff and they'll order a test for ya
 
I am conducting an AP experiment, ill tell all how it goes, so far so good.
low dosage, low excercise volume, big pumps. Lots of water and carbs.... dont forget your protein.
 
somewhatgifted said:
I am conducting an AP experiment, ill tell all how it goes, so far so good.
low dosage, low excercise volume, big pumps. Lots of water and carbs.... dont forget your protein.
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OOOOOH! tell me more, tell me more!
 
hurdlemaker said:
sorry man, didnt mean to mislead u, maybe ill post up a pic of her later, lol



u might be right, heres a pic of me flexing(its a few months old) , but maybe it is just a lil higher than 5%, ive been tested many times and the highest ive ever had when tested was 6.8%, but i know this isnt completely accurate. Also thanks for the tip on the gas, u may be right on that too, lol

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Damn, looking pretty shredded, from that pic I'd say 5-6%.
 
macedaddy said:
why would you take 2 before dinner? are you eating like 200g carbs at dinner? If you absolutely insist on taking 4, then why not take 1 with a different meal?
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No Im not taking in 200g of carbs--but prob more than 60g--I wouldnt take one with another meal because I only eat 3meals PD [work]and I wanted to see if 2 would give a better responce.[Im a nonresponder to most supps]The fact that 3 gives some people the sh*ts proves my point
 
AP main ingredient Phellodendrum is known for causing diarrhea. You can try taking it with ginger.
 
Proteinpowda said:
If you're not hypothyroid and you cease the thyroid meds you're going to down-regulate your metabolism. I wouldn't be asking this question on this board without a PROPER diagnosis or at least some bloodwork. Self-medicating (especially t4 or t3) is not always that safe....Just go for a physical and tell the doc you're feeling sluggish and stuff and they'll order a test for ya
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Well yea I hear what your sayin[about Doc]but right now Ive got no MED INS.Anyway Ive done my homework on the thyroid thing.Its pretty common for people" who do what we do"to have your thyriod need a little help.Im not planning to stop thyroid meds any time soon.
 
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