joeyg
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Dr. D and others,
Here's my 411. I did a 3-week Ergomax cycle last summer, which concluded around July. I took all the necessary ancillary supps (CoQ-10, fish oils, CEE, RYR, Pro Liver, ALCAR, multi, glucosamine, R-ALA, etc.) and my PCT was good (Nolvadex). I gained close to 20 lbs of lean mass and even lost body fat %. Impressed with these results, I did another cycle of Ergomax (3-week) in October. Same ancillary supps and PCT. I am 24-years old (this July), 5'11". and about 200 lbs.
But after the second cycle, my testicles never returned to normal, I have felt lethargic and weak. It looks like I have gained a lot of fat and lost some of the muscle. I went to an endo who performed two blood tests. One in mid-March and one in mid-April. The first one showed total T at 411 ng/dL, the second showed total T at 450 ng/dL. To keep this in perspective, my T levels were 799 ng/dL a year ago. Both these recent tests showed high prolactin levels (18, which is the max of the normal range). My liver, heart, etc. numbers came out all fine. I told my endo that my libido is very low, my ejaculate volume is very low, and my balls are still small. She felt around and said they were normal size but soft to the touch, which indicates hypogonadism. She knows that I have taken a potent oral anabolic, but she thinks it couldn't have been potent enough to cause the HPTA to go awry. She called me back saying she feels my T levels are okay and that the other problems are in my head. And that she or her colleages (at Stanford) feel uncomfortable prescribing hCG or anything else.
So f#ck them. This is where I need your help. I am thinking of starting a 4-6 week cycle using Clomid, Nolvadex, DHEA, fenugreek, cabergoline, and anything else that may help. From my initial research, it seems hCG would just suppress me further at this point, but would be willing to get it if you think it would help. Should I try Rebound XT or another steroidal AI? What dosages of the above compounds and what schedule of PCT would you recommend? What, if any, should I add to this list? Please help a bro in trouble.
J.
Here's my 411. I did a 3-week Ergomax cycle last summer, which concluded around July. I took all the necessary ancillary supps (CoQ-10, fish oils, CEE, RYR, Pro Liver, ALCAR, multi, glucosamine, R-ALA, etc.) and my PCT was good (Nolvadex). I gained close to 20 lbs of lean mass and even lost body fat %. Impressed with these results, I did another cycle of Ergomax (3-week) in October. Same ancillary supps and PCT. I am 24-years old (this July), 5'11". and about 200 lbs.
But after the second cycle, my testicles never returned to normal, I have felt lethargic and weak. It looks like I have gained a lot of fat and lost some of the muscle. I went to an endo who performed two blood tests. One in mid-March and one in mid-April. The first one showed total T at 411 ng/dL, the second showed total T at 450 ng/dL. To keep this in perspective, my T levels were 799 ng/dL a year ago. Both these recent tests showed high prolactin levels (18, which is the max of the normal range). My liver, heart, etc. numbers came out all fine. I told my endo that my libido is very low, my ejaculate volume is very low, and my balls are still small. She felt around and said they were normal size but soft to the touch, which indicates hypogonadism. She knows that I have taken a potent oral anabolic, but she thinks it couldn't have been potent enough to cause the HPTA to go awry. She called me back saying she feels my T levels are okay and that the other problems are in my head. And that she or her colleages (at Stanford) feel uncomfortable prescribing hCG or anything else.
So f#ck them. This is where I need your help. I am thinking of starting a 4-6 week cycle using Clomid, Nolvadex, DHEA, fenugreek, cabergoline, and anything else that may help. From my initial research, it seems hCG would just suppress me further at this point, but would be willing to get it if you think it would help. Should I try Rebound XT or another steroidal AI? What dosages of the above compounds and what schedule of PCT would you recommend? What, if any, should I add to this list? Please help a bro in trouble.
J.