Shrinked balls/low semen volume

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Hi all,

So I decided to do AS and i have ran a cycle of Test enanthate 350 MG and Equipoise (boldenone) 350MG both mixed for a short period of 5 weeks. I am happy with the gains i was able to put from this but now i have a concern with my nuts.

For PCT I did 20 capsules of 50mg clomid starting 3 days after my last test/bold pin however 2 week after this i noticed my balls shrinked and my scrotum stays up tight causing some what pain and low semen volume.

What should I do? Should I run clomid? I’ve heard low doses of HCG can help ( i didnt use hcg on cycle because of short period cycle)? Thanks for any advice.

Just in case Im 27 and this was my first cycle.
 
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Don't run hcg in pct. Just run clomid 6 weeks 50/50/25/25/20/20 or something
 
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But real Clomid should start filling the nutsack out at least some.

While HCG would not be necessary for a cycle like this, I somewhat disgaree with Chados on using it in PCT.

Ideally, you’d have used it during the cycle to prevent or limit oxidative damage to the testes OR you’d have used it during weeks 6-7 while the Test/EQ was clearing. Anywhere from 500-2000iu EOD would have been helpful to “fluff” the balls up before the Clomid therapy. I have found that HcG seems to do a better job at bring testes volume back and more swiftly as compared to Clomid but Clomid obviously helps the testes operate without causing a severe negative feedback loop (as hcg will do over time).

In your case, if Clomid isn’t working, I’d get hcg and a different source for clomid and take HcG for a week to get the nutsack back to a somewhat normal size start the Clomid therapy of 50mg/day initially and then move to 25mg/day w/ stinging nettle root daily for an additional 4-6 weeks.
 
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HCG is fine in PCT
I know Fueled just stated that, but sometimes people want many opinions.
Clomid and Hcg should have your balls filling back out pretty rapidly.
 

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Thankss for the reply guyss

Question how much hcg in terms of dose you think it’ll work for 1 week?
 

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Your balls are shrinking after the clomid? Are you positive your clomid is legit?
 

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I’m possitive they are (now theres a possibility they might have been bunk) And thats when i noticed about them staying up tight. I am now 1 week with a different source of clomid and in the nights i can feel them hanging but as soon as I wake up they stay up tight during the day.
 
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I’m possitive they are (now theres a possibility they might have been bunk) And thats when i noticed about them staying up tight. I am now 1 week with a different source of clomid and in the nights i can feel them hanging but as soon as I wake up they stay up tight during the day.
Please keep us informed. Are you also going to run some HCG?
 

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I’ll prolly keep running the clomids for 2 more weeks and they decide.
 
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But real Clomid should start filling the nutsack out at least some.

While HCG would not be necessary for a cycle like this, I somewhat disgaree with Chados on using it in PCT.

Ideally, you’d have used it during the cycle to prevent or limit oxidative damage to the testes OR you’d have used it during weeks 6-7 while the Test/EQ was clearing. Anywhere from 500-2000iu EOD would have been helpful to “fluff” the balls up before the Clomid therapy. I have found that HcG seems to do a better job at bring testes volume back and more swiftly as compared to Clomid but Clomid obviously helps the testes operate without causing a severe negative feedback loop (as hcg will do over time).

In your case, if Clomid isn’t working, I’d get hcg and a different source for clomid and take HcG for a week to get the nutsack back to a somewhat normal size start the Clomid therapy of 50mg/day initially and then move to 25mg/day w/ stinging nettle root daily for an additional 4-6 weeks.
Hcg and clomid are also used on porn sets to increase seminal volume and testicular size.

I agree with fueled with a little note to add on the end.

You didnt mention if you ran an AI on cycle or if you're using an ai in pct. Sometimes you can seriously f yourself up hormonally if you crash your estrogen. For future refference allow 2 to 3 weeks of pct to occur then add an ai.

Estrogen needs to bounce back too. I would opt to start ic3 or something similar as well last week of cycle. Run it though pct.

Also for future reference I would run test longer next time at 250 a week. 350 plus another compound is a bit much for a first time cycle.
 
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I think you started on the clomid way too soon.
 

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