Show me the Tren-magic Cycle

nreviya

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Guys what do you think about the following cutting cycle?

Drug: Trenbolone Enanthate
Dose: 250mg
Dose Frequency: Every 3 days
Cycle Length: 54 days
Start Day: 1

Drug: Trenbolone Acetate
Dose: 75mg
Dose Frequency: Every 1 days
Cycle Length: 7 days
Start Day: 1

Drug: Trenbolone Acetate
Dose: 75mg
Dose Frequency: Every 2 days
Cycle Length: 7 days
Start Day: 8

Drug: Trenbolone Acetate
Dose: 50mg
Dose Frequency: Every 2 days
Cycle Length: 7 days
Start Day: 15

Drug: Stanazolol
Dose: 100mg
Dose Frequency: Every 1 days
Cycle Length: 35 days
Start Day: 43

Drug: Letrozole
Dose: 1mg
Dose Frequency: Every 2 days
Cycle Length: 77 days
Start Day: 1

PCT Start Day: 78 (Clomid, Nolva)

Test subject is 33 years old, ~220lbs, ~11% body fat.
He is working out for 18 years.
He is relatively new in AS (just couple of cycles).
Not much gain was seen from previous cycles (even from Test E 750mg/EW + Deca 400mg/EW)...
 
When he used Test+Deca all he could think was sex. He got really frastated! I understand your comment though. What about Proviron 50-100 mg ED?
 
so leme get this straight:
Tren Enan: Days 1-54 @ 250mg/E3D (What 7 or 8 weeks)
Tren Ace: Week1 @ 75mg /ED
Tren Ace: Week2 @ 75mg/ EOD
Tren ace: week3 @ 50mg /EOD
Winny: Week 6-10 @ 100mg ED
W/ letro 1mg EOD throughout

I personally think this is an alright cycle... although I wouldn't taper the tren ace doses.. keep it at 75mg EOD or ED if you can handle it..
I believe BigCat on BB suggested this cycle with boldenone for a great lean mass gain cycle..
Also, I would run the tren enan for 10 weeks at least.
Be prepared to lose your libido- if you can deal with that youll be fine, if not- get some 4-AD or some test somewhere in that cycle and you should be good to go.--
Be safe/Goodluck
 
I'd switch the winny for var or t-bol.
 
The reason he does not want to add Test is also the fact that he had constant problems with gyno on TEST+DECA. Even though he was using Nolva + Arimidex + Cabergoline througout. Still he was milking afterwords:)
His diet is always relatively clean with at least 1.5-2 g of protein per lb of his bodyweight. He tried to stick above his calorie equilibrium 300-500 kcal ED.
By the way I forgot to say he is 5'11".
 
I going to leave the diet alone for the time being. First, if your friend is gyno prone tren is not your best bet, progesterone active items can severally aggravate the problem. Secondly while tren does not shut everyone down sex wise (I actually had a libido increase on it) about 90% of people will. Yes proviron will cure the fina **** in all but the worse cases but I would still run something else with it, it doesn't have to be test if your friend doesn’t want it to be.

Just so your friend knows proviron is a methyl steroid, and while its not very liver toxic it still should not be ran for more then 8 weeks.

There is no reason to run letrozole with that cycle, what is he going to prevent from converting? his own test is going to be squashed and the tren or the winny (not my pick at all here, like said above tbol would be better) can not be converted so the letrozole is useless. Running some Nolvadex might help some (at least with the lipids) But there is no need for an AI here.

I don't think that the tren ace is necessary at all. I would drop it in favor of letting the tren e build up over a couple of weeks (doesn't take as long as test e) as it is a strong steroid. front loading or kick starting a cycle is fine for long esters or weaker steroids (kind of hard to OD on EQ, it’s not nearly as hard to OD on tren)

also if your friend really didn't do well off of Test E 750mg/EW + Deca 400mg/EW odds are the gear was bunk or the diet and training are not what they should be. Sorry, but not responding well to both deca and test is kind of hard to swallow.
 
I agree Skye. If you're not gaining on Deca then something is amiss.

Letro isn't needed and even if it were, 1mg EOD is way too much. Cabergoline is what is needed instead.
 
I concur with the Tbol, or Proviron. Also, Letro is going to murder libido, as stated, and since progestins seem to bother you, I would say stay away from them and find another steroid suitable for cutting.
 
I thought the same about quality of TEst and Deca he had, but they are human grade from a real (not underground) pharmacy. Besides, he became sex maniac while on Test (no kidding). I am sure his workouts were OK. He is addicted to gym and also he does not have a concept of easy days or cardio days:)

Some articles claim that Letro has anti progetorone qualities. That was the single reason behind adding Letro in this cycle.

So, do you think EQ would be better option? But I never read someone used it on it's own. It is usually stacked with Test or Tren... However, I have to admit, it will be probably hard to not to eat enough with EQ:)
 
nreviya said:
I thought the same about quality of TEst and Deca he had, but they are human grade from a real (not underground) pharmacy. Besides, he became sex maniac while on Test (no kidding). I am sure his workouts were OK. He is addicted to gym and also he does not have a concept of easy days or cardio days:)

Some articles claim that Letro has anti progetorone qualities. That was the single reason behind adding Letro in this cycle.

So, do you think EQ would be better option? But I never read someone used it on it's own. It is usually stacked with Test or Tren... However, I have to admit, it will be probably hard to not to eat enough with EQ:)
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What do you mean by "addicted to the gym"..As in he never takes rest days?Because overtraining is overtraining, AAS or not.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
What do you mean by "addicted to the gym"..As in he never takes rest days?Because overtraining is overtraining, anabolic steroids or not.
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thats true, and you will not grow well if you are. that is why everyone includes REST in there advice. I still think it has to at least be somewhat diet related though, I would look at that first. it has to be first

I wasn't suggesting EQ actually but making a comparison, tren is powerful, 2 to 3 times stonger then test and just doesn't need to be jumpstarted. JM2C
 
Thank you, guys.
I will force him to reevaluate his diet and may be convince to add some Test E or Cyp. to this cycle (at least 400-500 mg/EW).
He was also showing me articles where it was stated that progesterone sides of Tren are simply a myth and people mistaken them with side effects from Test in the same cycle. So, according to author Tren is harmless in regards of Gyno without estrogen present in a system. Go figure:)
 
nreviya said:
Thank you, guys.
I will force him to reevaluate his diet and may be convince to add some Test E or Cyp. to this cycle (at least 400-500 mg/EW).
He was also showing me articles where it was stated that progesterone sides of Tren are simply a myth and people mistaken them with side effects from Test in the same cycle. So, according to author Tren is harmless in regards of Gyno without estrogen present in a system. Go figure:)
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Don't believe that. Please.
 
Yeah dump the Letro unless you are going to be running some test with it. If you are running some test with it I can understand it since estro + pro. is a baddddd combo.

I was gonna ask about the cabergoline though. I recommend it and hell proviron wouldn't hurt either since it, too, has some pro. inhibiting effects I believe doesn't it?
 
LakeMountD, you have an incredible physique, similar to what I'd like to accomplish (if it wasnt for these damn endo genes!)

if you dont mind me asking,
what's your shoulder routine like?

Right now I'm cutting under Bobo's plan and its goin' pretty well. anyway congrats on the nice physique
 
i was runing letro straight for 20 weeks and used total of 225 mg total ( used one botle of 30 ml from IBE and another botle of 60 ml from CHEMONE 1ml/2.5 mg)
and my libido was absolutely alright

of course during that time i had 12 test e cycle
 
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