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Thor Hammer

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Ran a cycle of H-dro and epi before the holiday break last year. Looked like this:

Weeks 1-2; 50mg H-Drol
Weeks 3-4; 75mg H-Drol

Weeks 3-4; 20mg Epi
Weeks 5-6; 40mg Epi

Started PCT with Torem at 120/90/60 then stopped. (prob should have tapered at the end). I took an AI (Resveritol) for the first week then stopped as I read running an AI with a SERM is a bad idea since you want some estrogen in your body at all times. After I stopped the Torem I started taking the AI again.

Just noticed a few days ago that my nipples are puffy. Its not gyno. I have read ALL the gyno posts including the sticky (if you think you have gyno click here).

Should I go back on Torem at a low dose and dump the AI? Or just chill and it will go away on its own?
 
No. I've reduced bodyfat. In the past if I did put it on I never had puffy nips. I am 200lbs. @ 14% BF right now. Was at 18% before my cycle.
 
and all of a sudden puffy nips? weird.....if there's no lump or pain i do not believe taking more of a SERM will do anything
 
i have gotten this a couple of times and my libido will be low not gone just low. i use l-dopa and zma at night in 2 or 3 days my nips and libido are normal.
 
this happened to me when i took an AI after my SERM in my summer cycle. I ended up getting puffy nips.. letting it happen, and then all of a sudden hard tissue started forming a couple weeks later.

Run novedex xt - 3/2/2/1 I believe its rebound for suppressing estrogen for so long. epi and h-drol r both non-aromatizing, then we both overdid our pct's on estrogen control
 
what the hell is your picture it looks like a guy bent over with his **** hanging out.. sorry to bring this thread to a random topic.. the cycle looked good, PCT seemed okay, maybe next time go with Clomid 50/50/50/50, but sometimes you'll experience nipple sensitivity change, when estrogen levels change/lower/raise, but I believe with your cycle, which is not a very harsh cycle from the looks of it, you'll be okay. Did you experience a shutdown?
 
wedlund6 said:
i have gotten this a couple of times and my libido will be low not gone just low. i use l-dopa and zma at night in 2 or 3 days my nips and libido are normal.
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My libido is just low enough that i notice it. Never used l-dopa. Will have to do some research on that compound. Thanks for the advice.
 
Ju1cedUp said:
this happened to me when i took an AI after my SERM in my summer cycle. I ended up getting puffy nips.. letting it happen, and then all of a sudden hard tissue started forming a couple weeks later.

Run novedex xt - 3/2/2/1 I believe its rebound for suppressing estrogen for so long. epi and h-drol r both non-aromatizing, then we both overdid our pct's on estrogen control
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Lame. Hope you were able to get rid of it. I have Pharmaceutical Alternatives Testo RX on hand. Is that close enough to Gaspari Novedex XT?
 
Thor Hammer said:
Lame. Hope you were able to get rid of it. I have Pharmaceutical Alternatives Testo RX on hand. Is that close enough to Gaspari Novedex XT?
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no, thats more of a test booster. And yea its pretty much gone, i can still kinda feel it way back there, but no pain. If you do it before you get the hard tissue you should be golden. Right when i started novedex the puffiness went away
 
rdugan95 said:
what the hell is your picture it looks like a guy bent over with his **** hanging out.. sorry to bring this thread to a random topic.. the cycle looked good, PCT seemed okay, maybe next time go with Clomid 50/50/50/50, but sometimes you'll experience nipple sensitivity change, when estrogen levels change/lower/raise, but I believe with your cycle, which is not a very harsh cycle from the looks of it, you'll be okay. Did you experience a shutdown?
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Quite honestly I dont know how I would tell if I experienced a "shutdown". I never felt out of sorts or had extremely low libido. But, then again, I am a horny mofo 24/7!
 
Ju1cedUp said:
no, thats more of a test booster. And yea its pretty much gone, i can still kinda feel it way back there, but no pain. If you do it before you get the hard tissue you should be golden. Right when i started novedex the puffiness went away
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I have a bottle of Arom-X. Different compounds, but will it work just as well as Novedex?
 
I say low dose of SERM w/ a natty test booster (no AI)...I personally prefer Activate Xtreme

Something like 10mg Nolva ED for about a week (or however long you deem necessary), and simultaneously run the test booster- continue running the test booster after you discontinue use of your SERM, I'd say for about 4 weeks minimum

the SERM should immediately bind to the receptor sites if there is any activity going on at all, and the test booster seemed to be a missing element to your PCT...coupled together they should gradually raise your test while controlling- not eliminating estrogen

then again, as somebody said, the puffy nipples syndrome is something that simply happens when hormonal levels are adjusting and estrogen levels are re-adjusting. Keep checking there are no forming lumps- don't get paranoid and don't aggravate the area but be weary

this is mere opinion & what I would do.
 
Thor Hammer said:
I have a bottle of Arom-X. Different compounds, but will it work just as well as Novedex?
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not as strong but that may be a good thing.. make sure to start off high, then slowly taper off to make sure there is no rebound.

this isn't letro or anything so you should be fine
 
17amethyl said:
I say low dose of SERM w/ a natty test booster (no AI)...I personally prefer Activate Xtreme

Something like 10mg Nolva ED for about a week (or however long you deem necessary), and simultaneously run the test booster- continue running the test booster after you discontinue use of your SERM, I'd say for about 4 weeks minimum

the SERM should immediately bind to the receptor sites if there is any activity going on at all, and the test booster seemed to be a missing element to your PCT...coupled together they should gradually raise your test while controlling- not eliminating estrogen

then again, as somebody said, the puffy nipples syndrome is something that simply happens when hormonal levels are adjusting and estrogen levels are re-adjusting. Keep checking there are no forming lumps- don't get paranoid and don't aggravate the area but be weary

this is mere opinion & what I would do.
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Nolva? I have Torem. Can I just use that with similar results? Thanks for the reply.
 
Thor Hammer said:
Nolva? I have Torem. Can I just use that with similar results? Thanks for the reply.
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torem would be better than nolva... SERMs deal with estrogen at the receptor level, AI's deal with estrogen that is floatin around. I think you have puffy nips cuz of the estrogen rebound after your first AI, not because ur producing too much, so i'm still supporting the arom-x. I used novedex xt and it DID work.
 
Ju1cedUp said:
torem would be better than nolva... SERMs deal with estrogen at the receptor level, AI's deal with estrogen that is floatin around. I think you have puffy nips cuz of the estrogen rebound after your first AI, not because ur producing too much, so i'm still supporting the arom-x. I used novedex xt and it DID work.
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Sound advice.

I'll do the following:

Arom-X: 6caps each night for 4 days. Taper down to 4/3/2.
Might throw in some L-dopa as well.

Think there is any benefit to adding in the Testo-RX?
 
Thor Hammer said:
Sound advice.

I'll do the following:

Arom-X: 6caps each night for 4 days. Taper down to 4/3/2.
Might throw in some L-dopa as well.

Think there is any benefit to adding in the Testo-RX?
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well testo-rx does have some anti-aromatizing ingredients but i would try just the arom-x first and see if thats enough.. You don't wanna overdue it again and have another rebound.

After 10 days, if its not almost gone, add in the testo-rx til its completely gone. Then slowly get off both.
 
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