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Setting as cost analysis for GH/126/GHRP-6

xtraflossy

xtraflossy

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...or; peptides n mones for cheap bastards.

I've come to the conclusion that I'd like to run some cjc-126.
I was about to order, and from a source that has done me no wrong I am seeing the cost at $80 a week.
I am mainly looking for some fat loss and increased recovery/sleep from all this.

$80 a week seems doable, but a little high for me.
I've been researching, and everything is kinda jumbled so excuse me if I mess some things up here.

Let me just dump questions regarding GHRP-6 / cjc-129.
*Is there an advantage frm one to another? I nderstand frequency of injections, but weighing 2 mg of 126 vs 2mg GHRP-6, which one would provide "the goods" (or just all mg's equal, which one provides the better results, as one is 1/3 the cost of the other..

*Can I get away with making one 2mg vial of cjc-126 last 2 weeks and still see results?

There isn't 2 forms of cjc-126 are there? (I don't know where this came from, but I thought I saw it mentioned)

*Wow- MGF now comes 4MG, lol. same price, but double the amount from when I last bought it (not a question, just looking things over here)

Will one of the 2 gh releasers have LESS of an impact upon natty production then the other?

Sorry to go noobie on here; but I need to start things off with at least correct information
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-also, I can't help it.. I really can't: If you start a response off with "Bro" or "Bra" I really can't bring myself to trust a word you've said. I'm not trying to be an ass, just have a fantastic one :nervous:
 
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As stand-alone, ghrp works better than cjc-1295, but the synergy of running them together increases the effectiveness by a factor of around 6. You want to run both.

There are two forms of cjc. DAC is the real deal, the other lacks the half-life of DAC, which is about a week.

Whichever form you get, you need to run the full 2mg per week or you wont be happy with the results.

Hope this helps, Bro!
 
xtraflossy said:
Let me just dump questions regarding GHRP-6 / cjc-126.
*Is there an advantage frm one to another? I nderstand frequency of injections, but weighing 2 mg of 126 vs 2mg GHRP-6, which one would provide "the goods" (or just all mg's equal, which one provides the better results, as one is 1/3 the cost of the other..
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Your paying to much for your ghrp-6 :)
Most people buy the 5mg vial same price as the 2mg

DavesNotHere said:
As stand-alone, ghrp works better than cjc-1295, but the synergy of running them together increases the effectiveness by a factor of around 6. You want to run both.

There are two forms of cjc. DAC is the real deal, the other lacks the half-life of DAC, which is about a week.

Whichever form you get, you need to run the full 2mg per week or you wont be happy with the results.

Hope this helps, Bro!
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Damn I was going to post something just like this. :wave2:

Why not just run Hex if you only want one. I'm thinking about buying a vew vials of cjc dac for the one to two shots per week
 
Also...@$80 a week, you'd be better off running GH. You can run 4iu a day and ghrp-6 pre-bed 5 on / 2 off and come in well under $80 and get better results...

I'm just sayin..
 
DavesNotHere said:
Also...@$80 a week, you'd be better off running GH. You can run 4iu a day and ghrp-6 pre-bed 5 on / 2 off and come in well under $80 and get better results...

I'm just sayin..
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possibly but considering he is paying high price for ghrp-6 I doubt if he can get good cheap gh.
 
WhatsaRoid? said:
possibly but considering he is paying high price for ghrp-6 I doubt if he can get good cheap gh.
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To be honest; I have not looked around. I just had one supplier off the top of my head. I had been all up in ghrp-6 and mgf when they were first made available (well, commercially anyways round these parts)
What I could not find were logs of cjc-126 stand alone to compare the other options to.


Thanks to both of you for the input so far!
 
Ok;

So am I to understand here that ghrp-6 will provide the same results as cjc-126? The only difference then would be how often I need to dose right?
 
Here is a intro on them together


Introduction to GHRP-6 and CJC-1295



GHRP-6 and CJC-1295 cause a synergistic release of GH from the pituitary gland in the brain.

Research shows that GHRP secretes GH and CJC will synergistically inform the rats’ endocrine system of how to process the GH. In the research was clearly shown that the combination of both CJC & GHRP resulted in astounding results. The GH release caused by using both CJC & GHRP together the following in the research rat:




Fat loss
Lean mass gain
Increased cognitive function
 
WhatsaRoid? said:
Here is a intro on them together


Introduction to GHRP-6 and CJC-1295



GHRP-6 and CJC-1295 cause a synergistic release of GH from the pituitary gland in the brain.

Research shows that GHRP secretes GH and CJC will synergistically inform the rats’ endocrine system of how to process the GH. In the research was clearly shown that the combination of both CJC & GHRP resulted in astounding results. The GH release caused by using both CJC & GHRP together the following in the research rat:




Fat loss
Lean mass gain
Increased cognitive function
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Grrr... thanks.
I'm about to order 1 one each here.. I would really like to kind of keep things as low maintenence as possible here (like "just going on test all summer" type of thing)

shooting 3 times a day doesn't sound like much fun if I'm out roaming the beaches ya know.. (plus I'll be traveling on many 1-2 day trips since the woman works for Delta)

HL on ghrp-6 is pretty low I assume, (I'll look into the specifics later tonight),
I'm thinking of dosing ghrp-6 with cjc-126 twice a week Would be better then cjc alone, without the hassle of ED injections

Am I way off base here on this one?
 
xtraflossy said:
Grrr... thanks.
I'm about to order 1 one each here.. I would really like to kind of keep things as low maintenence as possible here (like "just going on test all summer" type of thing)

shooting 3 times a day doesn't sound like much fun if I'm out roaming the beaches ya know.. (plus I'll be traveling on many 1-2 day trips since the woman works for Delta)

HL on ghrp-6 is pretty low I assume, (I'll look into the specifics later tonight),
I'm thinking of dosing ghrp-6 with cjc-126 twice a week Would be better then cjc alone, without the hassle of ED injections

Am I way off base here on this one?
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Sounds good I dosed two a day when I cycled it and I would buy more then one cjc as I go through bottles of that pretty fast. My next run will be for a year or two cycle and I'll be buying 5 to 10 at a time.

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FYI its CJC-1295
or there is a Fragment 176 you maybe talking about but I'm not sure
 
if you can dose, the GHRP-6 ED (or 5 on/ 2 off) before bed. This compounds the natty release of GH you get while sleeping.

Half-life is very short. Basically you shoot, get a pulse within 30 mins and its gone. But the GH it releases has a HL of its own, so the HL of the pep is irrelavent.
 
Wanted to know what I should expect at first dose..

Just took 500mcg (0.5mg) incase there was any shortness of breath; as It kinda freaks me out lol

Any of that going on with cjc??
 
xtraflossy said:
Wanted to know what I should expect at first dose..

Just took 500mcg (0.5mg) incase there was any shortness of breath; as It kinda freaks me out lol

Any of that going on with cjc??
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If it's DAC, you shouldnt notice anything. If it's modified then you might get some tingling or stiffness in the fingers, like GH. I personally dont get any of that, even with GH. I just get hungry.
 
one 5mg vial should last over two weeks.
Dosed (3 x day @ 100ug) x 7 days = 2.1 grams

if you ran 5 on/2 off = 1.5g/week so that's more than 3 weeks worth.
 
wow some my bros are on it and they say there doing 6 weeks so i need like 6 bottles then ? ? and go 6 mon str8?
 
hey bro so how much liquid do you add to each vial 1- 2cc?im going to order some but want to do it correctly
 
using a u100 slin pin;
add 2cc water. pull 4 units (5 if theres a little air bubble in there) will give you 100ug.
dose 3 x day. 1. upon waking 2. mid-day (not pre WO) 3. pre-bed or when you get up to piss.

this should get you started...
 
holy **** bro- :nervous:
lol

Anyways; ordered ghrp-6 and cjc DAC. Should be coming in this week.

Tried the modified and while I could tell it did what it was supposed to, want to cut down on number of injections.

After I see how I feel on DAC (I got some lethargy from the modified) I'll dose cjc 2x weekly and be doing only evening shots of ghrp-6

I'm hoping I can get 3 goses from 1 vial of cjc and use the ghrp-6 at night to keep levels up / make up the difference with a slightly lower cjc dose.

This should make it more affordable I hope. (I'm trying to splurge on a nice ass leather couch):wave2:

I'll log something
 
you guys are using too much if you're using 300+ug a day. There's no reason to do that, its just going to burn holes in your pockets. 100ug a day of both (CJC/GHRP-6) is plenty.

But find out for yourself. Have fun being lethargic as **** on 300ug of both a day!

I've run over 20mg of both (probably closer to 50 for GHRP-6) every which way and 100ug/night is the best dose. More is not always better especially when mucking around with your pituitary gland.

***Maybe our goals are different though. I just like to use the stuff cause it lets me add about 50g carbs more a day without gaining any more fat. 50g carbs more every day than normal = quicker recovery rates. I like that.
 
The 300ug ED suggestion was regarding GHRP-6 stand alone.
But...300 of both is the standard, some guys do a lot more than 300...
and yeah, growth hormone makes you tired....but that feeling goes away after awhile.

to each his own
 
xtraflossy said:
holy **** bro- :nervous:
lol

Anyways; ordered ghrp-6 and cjc DAC. Should be coming in this week.

Tried the modified and while I could tell it did what it was supposed to, want to cut down on number of injections.

After I see how I feel on DAC (I got some lethargy from the modified) I'll dose cjc 2x weekly and be doing only evening shots of ghrp-6

I'm hoping I can get 3 goses from 1 vial of cjc and use the ghrp-6 at night to keep levels up / make up the difference with a slightly lower cjc dose.

This should make it more affordable I hope. (I'm trying to splurge on a nice ass leather couch):wave2:

I'll log something
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Interesting to see how this works out for you.
 
Quick question;
All the studies on the half life of cjc; there not done with the DAC version right?
I went back through and couldn't find it mentioned.

If its not, then how would the modified cjc compare to "non-modified" cjc?
 
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DAC half life is about a week. Modified (GHRH 1-29) is prob about the same as GHRP.
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I've got me honest here; I havent noticed much from 2mg DAC compared to 2mg modified. I got legthargy from the modified at least.

Though I'm wondering if the DAC has to build up a while; though the studies report elevated levels after a single injection...:dunno:
 
xtraflossy said:
I've got me honest here; I havent noticed much from 2mg DAC compared to 2mg modified. I got legthargy from the modified at least.

Though I'm wondering if the DAC has to build up a while; though the studies report elevated levels after a single injection...:dunno:
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The modified form is not really CJC-1295. It's actually GHRH 1-29. It's been around for a long time.
I think the DAC works to increase your circulating GH. The modified form causes immediate upregulation of the pituitary. The DAC extends your natural pulse so when your body does release GH, it does so for a longer period. I think...
The lethargy is from HGH being metabolised in to IGF. So when you dosed the mod. you got an immediate release of GH. With true DAC you will not get an immediate pulse. If you dosed the mod after the DAC was active in your system, you would have gotten a much bigger pulse and that would have made you even more lethargic.
At least you know your DAC is not GHRH 1-29.

If you stick with the DAC and pin GHRP-6 once a nite, you should increase your circulating GH quite a bit. But GHRH 1-29 and GHRP-6 should be dosed together for an immediate upregulation of the pituitary. They should be dosed on the same timing as regular HGH and you will get similar results.

I would recommend you stick with the 2mgs DAC weekly, but not less, and GHRP-6 once nitely. You can dose it over 100ug if you want. After 100 you reach a point of diminishing returns, but the stuff is so cheap you may as well play around with upping the dosage. And since you're only dosing 1 a day...
 
I guess I'm kinda playing arround with the peps to find a combo I like..
Went ahead and ordered modified this week with peg-mgf.
I think I'll take the extra cost and order from another lab next week with the DAC- just to compare and maked sure Im not missing out due to quality issues.

Ultimitely, I'd like to pin it and forget it for the summer,.. which is why I was all about some DAC-

*And on a kinda random note; GHRP-6 works Soooooo much better IM then subQ imo
 
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At least around 3 hours after dinner. Best time is if you wake up to piss. Then you dont have to deal with hunger. I get hungry if I pin before bed,,,,and sometimes I make it to the kitchen.
 
DavesNotHere said:
never tried mgf. keep us posted.
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Tried both before (peg and non peg)
I remember with peg dosing around 200mcg I got like hypo, tired, ..something.
Like I was using so much energy replicating cells lol (well, least I hope thats why)

Never really got site pumps from what I recall.
 
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