Sean Sherk did Nandrolone?

They can catch Epi/Havoc. It throws off the T:E ratio.

GH is extremely prevalent because of it's help on connective tissue more than anything. The strenght/fat loss is minor in comparison.
 
the only thing i heard was last year epi wasnt on a ban list for natural body builders so you could take that and be fine. i think that ended last december.
 
aghhhhh MY BAD thats what i ment..... yes they can test u for it but it is not banned... which is odd since EPI is good cutter
 
if it is not on a ban list in sports and gov. then practically makes it a usable substance hmmmmm........ :)
 
Jesus, Epi/Havoc will make you test positive. As I said, it will throw of the test:epitest ratio, which is the first trigger.
 
yeah i know the leben thing was a joke. i knew it was illegel and now illegal in natural bodybuilding as of a while ago. gotta stick to the ZMA and stinging nettle root and longjaks hahaha oh wait we got tribulus!!!!
 
ok im confused u cannot use banned steroids or other illegal substances,

epi is not banned nor illegal, which makes its use legal in sports right? all it does throuw off the ratio but if they cant tell what doingit, dosent it still give not enough ground to suspend u? they have to be able to pinpoint whats doing it (like testing positive for dbol for example)
 
jay21 said:
ok im confused u cannot use banned steroids or other illegal substances,

epi is not banned nor illegal, which makes its use legal in sports right? all it does throuw off the ratio but if they cant tell what doingit, dosent it still give not enough ground to suspend u? they have to be able to pinpoint whats doing it (like testing positive for dbol for example)
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If the ratio is off on the A and B samples, you're screwed. It hasn't been studied enough to honestly know what metabolites it may yield.
 
dude theres plenty of stuff thats legal that you cant take man. i dont think you can take ephedra and caffine before **** liek that. jsut because you can buy it doesnt mean you can use it. for example novadex xt along with 6oxo are banned but you can but it at 18 years old! baseball players along with a couple other lower division MMA guys have gotten busted. epi lowers estrogen and would show on blood results to give u a hormone advantage. the whole "legal part" of this is buying it for recreational use ONLY. its alaways been banned when UFC started testing. they would say compound tested positive for is "unknown" the testing in natural bodybuilding didnt punish you until last December. which has nothing to do with MMA. if you look on a UFC banned substance list you will find a whole lot of junk besides your average steroids. pain killers diuretics and other weird ass junk.
 
Sherk is so funny to watch. Hes got those tiny arms so virtually no reach, and he swings like a mad man and just misses misses misses lol and then shoots of a TD and either gets put in a guillotine or gets kneed in the face. Just another takedown to score points wrestler. Plus has great cardio + whatever roids he does on top of that. He definitely doesnt belong in the UFC anymore, I feel like he was only brought around because they just recently formed the 155 division and needed fighters.

LOL watch sherk vs. GSP, sherk gets pounded and starts yelling "stop the fight! ill stop it!" He should have never even fought a much bigger GSP but its so funny to watch him swing and miss
 
yeah his game hasnt changed at all and now he trys to exchange. hes been asked that and hes said hes gotten caught up in the moment and DOES not execute his game plans. if i was his camp i would be annoyed. his reach is garbage. hes ripped but doesn't have heavy hands or KO power tho. he does belong in the UFC but a gate keeper of the top 5. hes number 6 lol. his fight with tyson griffin was very fun. I think you hate on him a little hard but his punches are terrible due to his genetics. BJ penn and frank edgar had no problem getting out of the way. he has 2-3 fights left in UFC i would say. he should prolly win 2 if he wants to stay around.
 
bigwhiteguy29 said:
yeah his game hasnt changed at all and now he trys to exchange. hes been asked that and hes said hes gotten caught up in the moment and DOES not execute his game plans. if i was his camp i would be annoyed. his reach is garbage. hes ripped but doesn't have heavy hands or KO power tho. he does belong in the UFC but a gate keeper of the top 5. hes number 6 lol. his fight with tyson griffin was very fun. I think you hate on him a little hard but his punches are terrible due to his genetics. BJ penn and frank edgar had no problem getting out of the way. he has 2-3 fights left in UFC i would say. he should prolly win 2 if he wants to stay around.
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i have that feeling too. All hes good for now is to test guys to see what they are made of. Hes just a gate keeper for the superior fighters.
 
speking of olymipics am i only one who noticed M.philips was on growth hormones? i saw a pic of him 2 yearss ago man he looks 100% diff now he jaw is enormus! compared to before as well/......
 
who knows. he looks like thatkinda, like his style hair and stuff. i think its a possibility but i could say no he was very young at the time. ive changed aswell.
 
ok i have 3 reasons why i will believe he juiced.

1. His HUGE build for 150,170 and him looking way bigger and ripped in earlier fights compared to now.

2. His sucking ass going from LW champ to not even top 10 in like what a year after being busted.

3. Look at his workout routine in mens health or whatever magazine it was he does a Bodybuilding split. sorry if u fight MMA and got cardio, strengh, Judo,Boxing, Ju Jitsu all that work to do. i DOUBT u have time to do tricep extentions and skull crushers and curls and stuff that dont matter much in a fight.
 
brownstown89 said:
ok i have 3 reasons why i will believe he juiced.

1. His HUGE build for 150,170 and him looking way bigger and ripped in earlier fights compared to now.

2. His sucking ass going from LW champ to not even top 10 in like what a year after being busted.

3. Look at his workout routine in mens health or whatever magazine it was he does a Bodybuilding split. sorry if u fight MMA and got cardio, strengh, Judo,Boxing, Ju Jitsu all that work to do. i DOUBT u have time to do tricep extentions and skull crushers and curls and stuff that dont matter much in a fight.
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Disagree there bud, still have time, its up to one what training they are willing to put in it, and I do not recommends those excercises you mentioned for any serious athlete.
 
How can u disagree? what purose does sean sherk have doing concentration curls incline curls skull curshers pulldowns etc? none. yet he can spare time to put them in his MMA routine? he has to be on something to help recover most of us on here just do weight training and s truggle recovering from that..
 
brownstown89 said:
How can u disagree? what purose does sean sherk have doing concentration curls incline curls skull curshers pulldowns etc? none. yet he can spare time to put them in his MMA routine? he has to be on something to help recover most of us on here just do weight training and s truggle recovering from that..
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Reread my post and you will see that I posted that I do not recommend those types of excercises, but I do insist that if you want to be the best you have to train the best which includes WEIGHT LIFTING, explosive movements.
 
brownstown89 said:
ok i have 3 reasons why i will believe he juiced.

1. His HUGE build for 150,170 and him looking way bigger and ripped in earlier fights compared to now.

2. His sucking ass going from LW champ to not even top 10 in like what a year after being busted.

3. Look at his workout routine in mens health or whatever magazine it was he does a Bodybuilding split. sorry if u fight MMA and got cardio, strengh, Judo,Boxing, Ju Jitsu all that work to do. i DOUBT u have time to do tricep extentions and skull crushers and curls and stuff that dont matter much in a fight.
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1. You can't compare his build from his earlier fights at 170 to his fights at 155; that's just asinine. He looks the same as he has every time he's fought at LW.

2. He beat Tyson Griffin, a hell of a fighter, since failing his test. He lost to BJ and Edgar, who are both top-10 fighters. You can hardly say that he "sucks ass" losing to them. Does Couture suck for losing to Brock and Nog? Didn't think so.

3. Please tell me you don't think that he actually does what is printed in a magazine. That's just ignorant.
 
Rodja said:
1. You can't compare his build from his earlier fights at 170 to his fights at 155; that's just asinine. He looks the same as he has every time he's fought at LW.

2. He beat Tyson Griffin, a hell of a fighter, since failing his test. He lost to BJ and Edgar, who are both top-10 fighters. You can hardly say that he "sucks ass" losing to them. Does Couture suck for losing to Brock and Nog? Didn't think so.

3. Please tell me you don't think that he actually does what is printed in a magazine. That's just ignorant.
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1. I said his muscle defintion and density isnt looking the same as before the roid bust. not that he doesnt look like he did at 170 now that he wieghs 155?

2. He went from being Top ten fighter to not top ten.. People are going to say its the roids thats the way it works. David Ortiz went from 40-50 HRs a year to 20 this year? weather its true or not ppl will say its cuz hes off the roids.

3. IDK if he does that or not by the looks of his body im sure he does.
 
Sherk's fall has much more to do with a stagnant training routine/gameplan. He rarely uses his wrestling in the same fashion he did when he was the LW champ/top-3 WW.
 
id say in UFC hes somewhere in the top 7-8 still. he would beat guida and roger heruta. frank edgar is young and quick and beat him he also has a great record and is top 5. also i lift heavy arms all the time and still train. he got a wake up call and will prolly try harder.
 
Rodja said:
Sherk's fall has much more to do with a stagnant training routine/gameplan. He rarely uses his wrestling in the same fashion he did when he was the LW champ/top-3 WW.
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Good post Rodja.

In relation to the OP, I think looking at recent form you could be fooled into thinking that Sherk has been bulk dosing estrogen because he's fought like a bitch. :D

In relation to why Sherk is struggling at the moment it's just as Rodja said, he was always a dominant wrestler. For some reason recently he's gotten it into his head that he can be a boxer and he's always going to lose against guys who have longer reach, quicker hands and better footwork than Sherk does.

He should go back to what he's best at - using those short little arms like pistons to beat the **** out of people on the ground or dirty boxing on the fence or in the clinch (Prior to going for a double leg).

If he doesn't I can see his marketability and longevity in the UFC being bombed back to the stone-age as he becomes a has-been gatekeeper for up'n'comers a la Evan Tanner may he rest in peace.
 
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