I used the old detonate, spirodex, and craze. Please believe me when I say this, stuff like that is long gone. I’ve seen a lot of your posts and a lot are regarding excelsior and things that are spiked stim wise. I mean this with respect and I’m saying this as a person who was where you are many years ago, but you’re chasing the dragon brother. Sure you can still find some things that produce some intense amphetamine like energy but remember that even those will inevitably lose their effect over time. You will be much better off dialing in what works for you, sticking to that, and cycling it to keep your tolerance level. Otherwise you’re just gonna get stuck in a never ending spiral. I’d recommend looking into things outside of stims that can prime your body for those feel good happy buzzed feelings. Sometimes a person can be deficient in something as simple as L Tyrosine and adding that to boost dopamine production can take an avg preworkout to the next level. DLPA is another good one for this purpose, especially if you’re after the euphoria vs the stimmed out energy.
Lastly, as a person who also isn’t a fan of yohimbine and the like, I still have some of my schizophrenic psycho left and the yohimbine feelings can be there but it’s honestly hit or miss with me. I’ll still use this about once or twice a month (if at all) and I swear that the effects are never consistent. I’m assuming it’s inconsistent filled capsules and the amount of panthergy differs. Regardless, it’s a fine product for once in a while, but I can tell you with confidence that it MIGHT give you that feeling you’re looking for, but it will certainly only be for the first few times until you become tolerant to it.
Thank you for wise post that could serve me as a sign post to anybody. Well absolutely not recommended but due to rough circumstances including moving 7 times across 4 countries and barely finding housing and employment and at one time studying at 100% working 3 - 4 times a week and also commuting up to 3 hours a day including up to 20km with bicycle and cart to get son to school sometimes in pitch black and minus 20 celsius in winter. In hindsight I am not surprised that I hit total exhaustion especially since I went to teachers University and worked as a teacher and honestly even from the very beginning it was highly stressful for me.
Anyhow after being forced back to work from being sick from total exhaustion although telling them I still felt whacked they forced me to go back to work and I had to commute and I used some yerba mate caps and occasional pwo just to get through the days. I could have said no but I wanted to get a bit of income until my contract finished so I pushed myself.
When semester finished I entered University studies at 150% speed over the summer months that might be useful and I was still pretty exhausted but with a little help of Excelsior I managed to pull through those an also having some summer activities with my son.
I only went through about two tubs of Excelsior less than a scoop a day in almost three months about 6 days/week but I did indeed experience a more severe withdrawal than from caffeine upon quitting, I never used Craze or Detonate that often or long.
But years of stress moving being hit by the great earthquake in Tokyo 2011 not affected directly but the nuclear meltdown in Fukushima only 200kms away that has kept leaking, they have only stopped the news about it.
Thank you for advice on Psycho pharma, I am actually not expecting that much and in hindsight yup that probably was a bad quick spontenous choice but it was a sale so I can live with that.
I have been supplementing with tyrosine 5htp ashwaganda rhodiola rosea, am thinking abou trying mucuna pruriens to supple with l-dopa but I also realize that after many years of stress and exhaustion there is no magic supplement to fix it.
Honestly what they give is a temporary reset of energy but yeah it is all draining the bodys own reserves of dopamine and serotonine and frying the adrenals in the process leaving you more tired after and that goes for most stims more or less.
Used a few DMAA stims for some years but ended up towing them away because sides became too bad.
Chinese acupuncture is the most amazing thing I have tried to reset the bodys energy and healing on all levels but having a skilled practioner is of utmost importance skills can vary greatly between individuals but it cost a bit of money.
Anyway thank you for concern, too be honest I am not really looking for a craze kick supp at this time and I think after what I read that if the Far beyond driven is strong its gonna be jittery, I probably try out half capsule.
But what I truly and I guess everybody using these kind of supplements really are looking for is energy and to feel good and some of these supps are an easy way to give this temporary.
But yeah I do have some perspective and the longer and older you use stims depending on life circumstances and personal biochemistry etc... stims can have more or less negative sides and in most cases more the longer you use and if you push yourself more than what is healthy.
After having almost two weeks off Excelsior craving is almost gone and one thing that goes for most of these supps and especially with stronger and long lasting ones is that it truly is hard to relax and find peace of mind.
Thank you for care and advice.
Anybody with experience of using mucuna pruriens for rebuildning dopamine?
I did try DLPA for some time but i didnt react well to it, it made me kind of edgy and that can be the risk with amino acids as well that they offset balances and everybody is a unique being with a unique biochemistry reacting slightly different to supps.
I am also about to enter the last step of my ADHD investigation and the I will hopefully get a stim that I can use quite safely if I might need it in focus demanding tasks.
Unlike some supp reviwers on youtube I don´t say stay stimmed lol but wish you all peace
