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SARM's, MK, & GW : A User's Guide

4 weeks done of Osta @ 20mg today. Dropped calories to about 2500 so probably around 750 calories below maintenance when you factor in activity level.

Definite increase in leanness observed so far especially stubborn fat area. Was already pretty lean at, say 11%, might be hitting 10% now, waist is down half an inch to 29. Weight is stable give or take a lb here or there.

Strength seems to be up too. Not tried any PBs but what I am lifting seems to go up easier.

Sides, can't say anything for certain. Hard to tell with libido as I am single lol. I would say probably some mild suppression is starting. Not taking any test base yet as no major issue with lethargy, though I do get tired by 10pm and am ready for sleep. Sleeping well and getting a nice 8 hours most nights. Not sure what to expect on lethargy to be honest but I have Dermacrine if need be but will probably hold off on it unless I really feel I need it.

So far, so good at the half way stage, there definitely seems to be some positive effects with minimal negative ones. Just to reiterate, I have no prior experiences with any compounds so this is all new to me with respect to expectations and results.
 
rafy99 said:
yates84 Would it be wise to hit the levend 8mg throughoit the 8 weeks or taper ip from 4 -12 as you posted previously?
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Taper up the legend. Rad seems to kick quicker then effects level off around week 4 so it seems to be better to dose the rad higher from the start. Lgd still takes time to kick and longer cycles work better than shorter ones so I definitely still stand behind my lgd dosing protocol
 
Hi all

Back from a long abstinence, the work almost killed me...
I saw on the last pages (sorry, I didn't red the whole new pages :( ) that RAD-140 is beeing tested by some users.
Good to hear that, looking forward for some experiences. I will personally test it in spring 2016.

While reading about the experiences I have some questions:
- why doesn't anybody make a blood work (maybe I didn't saw it)? The toxicology of RAD-140 in humans is unknown.
- the half life of RAD-140 is in the range of 36-48h. Daily dosages are therefore legitime. Sometimes I red about 30mg/ed. I'm not sure, why RAD-140 is used in that high dosages.
 
sanmarino said:
Hi all

Back from a long abstinence, the work almost killed me...
I saw on the last pages (sorry, I didn't red the whole new pages :( ) that RAD-140 is beeing tested by some users.
Good to hear that, looking forward for some experiences. I will personally test it in spring 2016.

While reading about the experiences I have some questions:
- why doesn't anybody make a blood work (maybe I didn't saw it)? The toxicology of RAD-140 in humans is unknown.
- the half life of RAD-140 is in the range of 36-48h. Daily dosages are therefore legitime. Sometimes I red about 30mg/ed. I'm not sure, why RAD-140 is used in that high dosages.
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Been thinking of using myself as well... Looking online for some information and it really hard to come by
 
There isn't a lot of real world info available on RAD because it is such a new compound. Most of what you will find will be personal experiences via forum logs/discussions.
 
Logs are nice, but not the only thing that what I'm looking for. I will have access in some weeks to a blood work on RAD-140.
If there are interest, I will share the data with you.

The most important thing is monitoring the toxicology based on liver values.
 
sanmarino said:
Hi all

Back from a long abstinence, the work almost killed me...
I saw on the last pages (sorry, I didn't red the whole new pages :( ) that RAD-140 is beeing tested by some users.
Good to hear that, looking forward for some experiences. I will personally test it in spring 2016.

While reading about the experiences I have some questions:
- why doesn't anybody make a blood work (maybe I didn't saw it)? The toxicology of RAD-140 in humans is unknown.
- the half life of RAD-140 is in the range of 36-48h. Daily dosages are therefore legitime. Sometimes I red about 30mg/ed. I'm not sure, why RAD-140 is used in that high dosages.
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We have been reccomending 4 to 6 week cycles with dosages in between 4 and 12mg. This dosing protocol has been working (imo) for most of the rad users in the logs that I have followed here on am. I agree that 30mg is a rediculous dose to research with, the lowest effective dose is always best.
 
sanmarino said:
Logs are nice, but not the only thing that what I'm looking for. I will have access in some weeks to a blood work on RAD-140.
If there are interest, I will share the data with you.

The most important thing is monitoring the toxicology based on liver values.
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Definitely interested.
 
sanmarino said:
Logs are nice, but not the only thing that what I'm looking for. I will have access in some weeks to a blood work on RAD-140.
If there are interest, I will share the data with you.

The most important thing is monitoring the toxicology based on liver values.
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Looking forward to seeing these reports, thanks sanmarino !
 
sanmarino said:
Logs are nice, but not the only thing that what I'm looking for. I will have access in some weeks to a blood work on RAD-140.
If there are interest, I will share the data with you.

The most important thing is monitoring the toxicology based on liver values.
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I agree. I'm interested to see the results as well.

My comment was directed more towards those looking for more info on RAD on the internet & not finding much....in terms of research. The info just isn't there on RAD, yet.
 
Bigdumogre said:
Thanks
Says not available till the 30th so can order now and it ships then?

Hey No added
Yea mostly lurk here as you can tell
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Yes sir.

Typically after you order Max over at Nutri gives you a heads up that the order will be held till the date the shipment arrives.
 
kboxer7 said:
Yes sir.

Typically after you order Max over at Nutri gives you a heads up that the order will be held till the date the shipment arrives.
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Thanks OL and nutri on point

Keep getting code not good
Cast post pic due to low post count but says blowout35 is not valid on products listed - 360 count OL uk ostarine and super pct
 
Bigdumogre said:
Thanks OL and nutri on point

Keep getting code not good
Cast post pic due to low post count but says blowout35 is not valid on products listed - 360 count OL uk ostarine and super pct
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Did you go into the sales page? You have to put the items in your cart from the sarms sale page for the code to work. If you have problems finding it just let me know and I will post a link for you
 
yates84 said:
Did you go into the sales page? You have to put the items in your cart from the sarms sale page for the code to work. If you have problems finding it just let me know and I will post a link for you
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Ya could you post a link on mobile and it's annoying to find lol
 
yates84 said:
Looking forward to seeing these reports, thanks sanmarino !
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Thanks you all for the replies. 4-6 weeks should be legitime, the dosage range also.
I will keep you all up to date. If everything is going to be all right (bloodwork results still outstanding), the cycle will be started soon.

You will read the final report (with ALL the relevant information) after approx. seven weeks. If I start now to write a part, you will forget or never find this post in this huge thread again :)

san
 
Shin Sprints said:
4 weeks done of Osta @ 20mg today. Dropped calories to about 2500 so probably around 750 calories below maintenance when you factor in activity level.

Definite increase in leanness observed so far especially stubborn fat area. Was already pretty lean at, say 11%, might be hitting 10% now, waist is down half an inch to 29. Weight is stable give or take a lb here or there.

Strength seems to be up too. Not tried any PBs but what I am lifting seems to go up easier.

Sides, can't say anything for certain. Hard to tell with libido as I am single lol. I would say probably some mild suppression is starting. Not taking any test base yet as no major issue with lethargy, though I do get tired by 10pm and am ready for sleep. Sleeping well and getting a nice 8 hours most nights. Not sure what to expect on lethargy to be honest but I have Dermacrine if need be but will probably hold off on it unless I really feel I need it.

So far, so good at the half way stage, there definitely seems to be some positive effects with minimal negative ones. Just to reiterate, I have no prior experiences with any compounds so this is all new to me with respect to expectations and results.
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It help me a lot on my sore joints too. 20mg for 8 weeks. Sweet
 
I got my little stockpile!
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Do you guys take your SARMs with food, Empty stomach, or doesn't matter?

Also, I'm 4 days into mk-677, when should I start noticing effects other than better sleep and hunger?
 
Mostly on empty stomach (after waking up).
Sometimes with food. Never noticed something negative nor positive.

On MK-677 I noticed the changes real quick. It started with sleeping like a stone, than hunger (I had stomach pain in the morning after wakin up. Sometimes already at 4 a.m. when I was in a part sleep and part woke up mode) and then with enormous regeneration and become Mr. Aquamen with the same (high) amount of sodium.
 
sanmarino said:
Mostly on empty stomach (after waking up).
Sometimes with food. Never noticed something negative nor positive.

On MK-677 I noticed the changes real quick. It started with sleeping like a stone, than hunger (I had stomach pain in the morning after wakin up. Sometimes already at 4 a.m. when I was in a part sleep and part woke up mode) and then with enormous regeneration and become Mr. Aquamen with the same (high) amount of sodium.
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Lol aquaman. My bf% might be too high to really notice that much water retention; I don't see it in my face and that's all that really matters to me. I'm really looking forward to the enhanced recovery and joint benefits mostly.
 
GreenMachineX said:
Lol aquaman. My bf% might be too high to really notice that much water retention; I don't see it in my face and that's all that really matters to me. I'm really looking forward to the enhanced recovery and joint benefits mostly.
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He ain't lying with the aqua man lmao that was funny.
but yes if u don't control ur sodium mk677 will blow u up.
 
SARM's, MK, & GW : A User's Guide

I am currently in a discussion with others in separate thread. Since there is a larger audience here. Have the majority of you seen any estro sides in osta or LGD? Any gyno? Is it common?

I currently have 2 bottles of LGD and 3 bottles of the osta 360 count. I am trying to figure out everything I would have to add if I wanted to run them.
 
Chrisko said:
I am currently in a discussion with others in separate thread. Since there is a larger audience here. Have the majority of you seen any estro sides in osta or LGD? Any gyno? Is it common?

I currently have 2 bottles of LGD and 3 bottles of the osta 360 count. I am trying to figure out everything I would have to add if I wanted to run them.
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Have not heard of anything with LGD (though with anything binding to the AR receptor it is possible).

Osta definitely has had reports of mild estrogen side effects, the causes of which are still up for debate. Some don't experience these at all, but for those who do it seems that something light like inhibit-E works just fine. As you'll read on the board, it is always advisable to have an rx AI on hand just in case (this goes for any sarm etc).
 
Chrisko said:
I am currently in a discussion with others in separate thread. Since there is a larger audience here. Have the majority of you seen any estro sides in osta or LGD? Any gyno? Is it common?

I currently have 2 bottles of LGD and 3 bottles of the osta 360 count. I am trying to figure out everything I would have to add if I wanted to run them.
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i've run osta, but not lgd. i've run the osta as high as 20mg for 8 weeks. also, every cycle i've run as been with arimacare pro, which has arimistane. i also do a 4 week 50/25/25/12.5 clomid pct with sup3r pct, which might be a little bit overkill. haven't had any estrogen or gyno problems with that setup. i do keep exemestane on hand for safety, though.
 
kboxer7 said:
Have not heard of anything with LGD (though with anything binding to the AR receptor it is possible).

Osta definitely has had reports of mild estrogen side effects, the causes of which are still up for debate. Some don't experience these at all, but for those who do it seems that something light like inhibit-E works just fine. As you'll read on the board, it is always advisable to have an rx AI on hand just in case (this goes for any sarm etc).
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^^this is good advice
 
SARM's, MK, & GW : A User's Guide

My serm of choice would be nolva. I am sure that would be fine as well. Do you have to taper the super pct down?
 
Chrisko said:
My serm of choice would be nolva. I am sure that would be fine as well. Do you have to taper the super pct down?
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i don't think that's mandatory, but i do anyway, mainly because i get tired of the arimistane after that long. 10/8/6/4 with split doses breakfast and dinner.

along that train of thought, that in future cycles i'm thinking about switching up my supports due to getting tired of being on arimistane for 12 consecutive weeks. i like it for cortisol and water control, along with it's weak estrogen control, but it also tends to dry out my knees. in a future 8 week cycle i might do something like first 4 weeks with just nac/tudca for liver protection, and then finish out the last 4 weeks with arimacare into 4 more weeks of sup3r pct. i need to look more into this.
 
Chrisko said:
My serm of choice would be nolva. I am sure that would be fine as well. Do you have to taper the super pct down?
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Nolva is fine. There is no need to taper off of super pct, just run at label doses and it will last 1 week past your serm. If you really wanted to taper super pct, that would be fine as well
 
really wish there was a cycle support supp out there that has everything in arimacare pro except without the arimistane, so i could fine tune that separately with eliminate. yates84 hint hint.
 
warpyfunch said:
along those lines, really wish there was a cycle support supp out there that has everything in arimacare pro except without the arimistane, so i could fine tune that separately with eliminate. yates84 hint hint.
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Its not a big dose, just enough to not have any negative side effects. You should be able to add more/other ai's to your stack if you want.
 
yates84 said:
Its not a big dose, just enough to not have any negative side effects. You should be able to add more/other ai's to your stack if you want.
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it's more the duration than the dose for me, i think. it's otherwise pretty mild in other aspects, but 8 weeks of arimacare plus 4 weeks of sup3r pct has my joints, especially knees, feeling quite stiff by the end.
 
warpyfunch said:
it's more the duration than the dose for me, i think. it's otherwise pretty mild in other aspects, but 8 weeks of arimacare plus 4 weeks of sup3r pct has my joints, especially knees, feeling quite stiff by the end.
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Throw some trest in your stack, will fix that problem right up!
 
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