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SARM's, MK, & GW : A User's Guide

Ok cool thanks :) coming from someone who ran the same thing - what did you think?? You used conquer didn't you?? Rekon you would have worked out as hard without it?? I'm a stim junkie :-P
 
Shaner091 said:
Ok cool thanks :) coming from someone who ran the same thing - what did you think?? You used conquer didn't you?? Rekon you would have worked out as hard without it?? I'm a stim junkie :-P
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Yup! I also used stimulat8 and red bulls, Conqu3r+red bull, and stimul8+red bull(not recommend lol). You can use the same preworkouts you usually use.
 
Nice one dude,, will have to stock up so :-P
 
If i check pros and cons of Mk im not sure if its worth for me to take. Lethargy, bloating and almost no mass or strength gains from reading. Not very convincing...
 
uubiduu said:
If i check pros and cons of Mk im not sure if its worth for me to take. Lethargy, bloating and almost no mass or strength gains from reading. Not very convincing...
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High appetite, better sleep, healed shoulder injuries, and some strength gains. I don't know man I wouldn't buy 3 more bottles of MK to run for another 4 months if it wasn't worth it. This stuff ain't cheap. Lethargy goes away and bloating I don't mind right now. I think it's a great bulker and versatile stacked on natty and aas/sarm cycles.
 
uubiduu said:
If i check pros and cons of Mk im not sure if its worth for me to take. Lethargy, bloating and almost no mass or strength gains from reading. Not very convincing...
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Let's put things in perspective first....


1. By age of 30, our HGH levels are only about 20 percent of their peak levels during childhood

2. Past age 30, GH levels continue to decline at a rate of about 12-15% every 10 years

3. Benefits of HGH:

a. Reduce excess body fat
b. Increase muscle mass
c. Reduce wrinkling of the skin and some other effects of skin aging.
d. Re-grow certain internal organs that have atrophied with age.
e. Increase bone density.
f. Strengthen the immune system.
g. Possibly reverse cognitive decline.
h. Stimulate production of the bone marrow cells that produce red blood cells.
i. Slow the progression of cardiovascular disease
j. Improve lipid profile

4. MK-677 compared to iu's (someone check my math on this one just in case)

a. Human growth hormone is measured in iu (international units) and mg. 1 mg equals approximately 3 iu, while 1 iu equals approximately 0.33 mg.

b. 24-h mean GH in young normal men is 1.16µg/l, with a range of 0.67–2.35µg/l and a clinical reference range for males of <3 µg/L

c. Natural GH production for a normal male as measured by iu's would be 1-2iu daily.

d. MK-677 can increase mean production of GH by up to 183%. This would mean an increase to 1.83 - 3.66iu per day.

e. This increase in GH results in a corresponding increase of IGF-1 levels by 39-94%.
 
Is it okay to have a few drinks a week while taking purely ostarine, I know it is not ideal whatsoever in terms of reaching my goals, but I am in college and still looking to have a little fun on the weekends. Of course I will be limiting my drinking as much as possible, but just want to make sure I won't be destroying my body if I do slip up once in a while.
 
kboxer7 said:
Let's put things in perspective first....


1. By age of 30, our HGH levels are only about 20 percent of their peak levels during childhood

2. Past age 30, GH levels continue to decline at a rate of about 12-15% every 10 years

3. Benefits of HGH:

a. Reduce excess body fat
b. Increase muscle mass
c. Reduce wrinkling of the skin and some other effects of skin aging.
d. Re-grow certain internal organs that have atrophied with age.
e. Increase bone density.
f. Strengthen the immune system.
g. Possibly reverse cognitive decline.
h. Stimulate production of the bone marrow cells that produce red blood cells.
i. Slow the progression of cardiovascular disease
j. Improve lipid profile

4. MK-677 compared to iu's (someone check my math on this one just in case)

a. Human growth hormone is measured in iu (international units) and mg. 1 mg equals approximately 3 iu, while 1 iu equals approximately 0.33 mg.

b. 24-h mean GH in young normal men is 1.16µg/l, with a range of 0.67–2.35µg/l and a clinical reference range for males of <3 µg/L

c. Natural GH production for a normal male as measured by iu's would be 1-2iu daily.

d. MK-677 can increase mean production of GH by up to 183%. This would mean an increase to 1.83 - 3.66iu per day.

e. This increase in GH results in a corresponding increase of IGF-1 levels by 39-94%.
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Outstanding answer! Makes me look into Mk again
 
nick76 said:
Is it okay to have a few drinks a week while taking purely ostarine, I know it is not ideal whatsoever in terms of reaching my goals, but I am in college and still looking to have a little fun on the weekends. Of course I will be limiting my drinking as much as possible, but just want to make sure I won't be destroying my body if I do slip up once in a while.
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It won't kill you but I wouldn't push it. Abstain as much as possible! Sometimes you just need to decide what is more important, reaching your fitness goals or partying
 
nick76 said:
Is it okay to have a few drinks a week while taking purely ostarine, I know it is not ideal whatsoever in terms of reaching my goals, but I am in college and still looking to have a little fun on the weekends. Of course I will be limiting my drinking as much as possible, but just want to make sure I won't be destroying my body if I do slip up once in a while.
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Don't have to cut out the fun, just cut out the osta and save it for when your ready to get serious!

Win win!
 
uubiduu said:
If i check pros and cons of Mk im not sure if its worth for me to take. Lethargy, bloating and almost no mass or strength gains from reading. Not very convincing...
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I am using Ghar1ne and have zero lethargy, bloating/water retention or increased hunger. Same goes for my Mother, my Aunt and my Uncle. They've been dosing it at 10mg per night 30m before bed, and haven't seen any of the negative side effects. You have to remember, more people are vocal when they experience side effects, while others without issue tend not to chime in or seek out discussion regarding a compound they have no issues with. You won't get accurate sample sizes going by isolated forum posts alone. My family isn't going to post here, yet they are using it, and side effect free thus far.

kboxer7 said:
Let's put things in perspective first....


1. By age of 30, our HGH levels are only about 20 percent of their peak levels during childhood

2. Past age 30, GH levels continue to decline at a rate of about 12-15% every 10 years

3. Benefits of HGH:

a. Reduce excess body fat
b. Increase muscle mass
c. Reduce wrinkling of the skin and some other effects of skin aging.
d. Re-grow certain internal organs that have atrophied with age.
e. Increase bone density.
f. Strengthen the immune system.
g. Possibly reverse cognitive decline.
h. Stimulate production of the bone marrow cells that produce red blood cells.
i. Slow the progression of cardiovascular disease
j. Improve lipid profile

4. MK-677 compared to iu's (someone check my math on this one just in case)

a. Human growth hormone is measured in iu (international units) and mg. 1 mg equals approximately 3 iu, while 1 iu equals approximately 0.33 mg.

b. 24-h mean GH in young normal men is 1.16µg/l, with a range of 0.67–2.35µg/l and a clinical reference range for males of <3 µg/L

c. Natural GH production for a normal male as measured by iu's would be 1-2iu daily.

d. MK-677 can increase mean production of GH by up to 183%. This would mean an increase to 1.83 - 3.66iu per day.

e. This increase in GH results in a corresponding increase of IGF-1 levels by 39-94%.
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Excellent information. I admire the quality of your posts, sir. Repped.
 
Hastur said:
I am using Ghar1ne and have zero lethargy, bloating/water retention or increased hunger. Same goes for my Mother, my Aunt and my Uncle. They've been dosing it at 10mg per night 30m before bed, and haven't seen any of the negative side effects. You have to remember, more people are vocal when they experience side effects, while others without issue tend not to chime in or seek out discussion regarding a compound they have no issues with. You won't get accurate sample sizes going by isolated forum posts alone. My family isn't going to post here, yet they are using it, and side effect free thus far.

Exactly the same for me... zero lethargy, bloating/water retention or increased hunger.

Sleep has been amazing. Recovery seems to be improved. My skin is incredible now. Im absolutely amazed the effect this has had on my skin.

I didn't really start to notice the effects till I upped it till 30mg though which seems higher than most people.
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AndrewMcD said:
Hastur said:
I am using Ghar1ne and have zero lethargy, bloating/water retention or increased hunger. Same goes for my Mother, my Aunt and my Uncle. They've been dosing it at 10mg per night 30m before bed, and haven't seen any of the negative side effects. You have to remember, more people are vocal when they experience side effects, while others without issue tend not to chime in or seek out discussion regarding a compound they have no issues with. You won't get accurate sample sizes going by isolated forum posts alone. My family isn't going to post here, yet they are using it, and side effect free thus far.

Exactly the same for me... zero lethargy, bloating/water retention or increased hunger.

Sleep has been amazing. Recovery seems to be improved. My skin is incredible now. Im absolutely amazed the effect this has had on my skin.

I didn't really start to notice the effects till I upped it till 30mg though which seems higher than most people.
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Would that mean that you and your family members have/had a GH deficiency or is it merely just individual?
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AndrewMcD said:
Hastur said:
I am using Ghar1ne and have zero lethargy, bloating/water retention or increased hunger. Same goes for my Mother, my Aunt and my Uncle. They've been dosing it at 10mg per night 30m before bed, and haven't seen any of the negative side effects. You have to remember, more people are vocal when they experience side effects, while others without issue tend not to chime in or seek out discussion regarding a compound they have no issues with. You won't get accurate sample sizes going by isolated forum posts alone. My family isn't going to post here, yet they are using it, and side effect free thus far.

Exactly the same for me... zero lethargy, bloating/water retention or increased hunger.

Sleep has been amazing. Recovery seems to be improved. My skin is incredible now. Im absolutely amazed the effect this has had on my skin.

I didn't really start to notice the effects till I upped it till 30mg though which seems higher than most people.
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Im currently running it at 10mg ed.1st month is over so on monday im going to start with 2 caps ed 20mg however the first week i noticed some lethargy but nothing crazy.No bloating to me too
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muay thai said:
CJNator said:
an endocrinologist is much more qualified to answer that for you . This is out of a consumers "scope of profession ". I am Speaking from experience.
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I was speaking generally not individually, I was hoping if someone with knowledge of how GH deficiency effects someone and how it is if that person is giving a drug that actually raises it(if normal side effects[bloating, hunger, etc...] would appear or not).
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Hello guy's , I'm fighter and coming up my competition, could somebody recommended some very strong (SARM) products? I looking for explosive Power, stamina , endurance, speed, weight loss, and increase testosterone.. thanks
 
Giedrius said:
Hello guy's , I'm fighter and coming up my competition, could somebody recommended some very strong (SARM) products? I looking for explosive Power, stamina , endurance, speed, weight loss, and increase testosterone.. thanks
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Cardar1ne and Ep1c Unleashed sound like a good idea for you. No Sarm will increase Testosterone, although you could pick up some DermaTrest. That would be your best bet if you aren't wanting to inject actual Test. It will require a PCT though, the other two would not.
 
Thanks for answers. I don't want any injections, what you think about endurashred?do you mean derma test increase test??
 
Giedrius said:
Hello guy's , I'm fighter and coming up my competition, could somebody recommended some very strong (SARM) products? I looking for explosive Power, stamina , endurance, speed, weight loss, and increase testosterone.. thanks
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Only test will increase test. The above suggestion would be the best combo for stamina and endurance and would require no pct. If you want to kick up your weight loss while gaining strength I would add osta to that stack. Also as mentioned, a proper pct will be needed for osta.
 
Yes, I know what's is PCT ECT. Thanks, but anyway I can't understand how can be SARM, challenging with steroids? SARM is just stronger supplements , like creatine ..... I'm right guys ??
 
SARM's, MK, &amp; GW : A User's Guide

Giedrius said:
Yes, I know what's is PCT ECT. Thanks, but anyway I can't understand how can be SARM, challenging with steroids? SARM is just stronger supplements , like creatine ..... I'm right guys ??
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Sarms are what they mean, selective androgen receptor modulators. The reason for sarms in the bb world is the lack of side effects in comparison to aas or prohormones . For example ) sarms do not enlarge the prostate , sarms are non liver toxic( compared to methylated prohormones which are toxic), sarms have little to no effect on LH and FSH while aas effects free test LH and FSH . Also because of these attributes pct is much quicker then in comparison with aas . Do a little more reading especially in the beginning of this thread , it will help you understand allot more .
 
rascal14 said:
Olympus UK is the only company I'd trust.
yates84 should be able to help you on finding a good place to buy it.
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☝ ×1000
?????
Yates84 helped me loads in setting up mine. Good honest advice and though I'm new to SARM'S I've been furiously researching everything I can on them for the past 6/8 weeks and have to say the only consistently positive reviews I've come across have been for OL.
☆3rd party tested
☆Complete ☆transperancy from the company.
☆Reps willing to help you create your cycle from start to finish.

=
GAAAIIINNZZZ + Peace of Mind ??
What more could you want??
 
Giedrius said:
Yes, I know what's is PCT ECT. Thanks, but anyway I can't understand how can be SARM, challenging with steroids? SARM is just stronger supplements , like creatine ..... I'm right guys ??
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Start at page 1 of this thread, lots and lots of great sarm info at your disposal!
 
Cant post links coz ive less than 1000 posts :/
But below there's a half assed link to my thread :-P
Just lookin for advice off guys here on my cycle so ce this is the place I learned everything I know about SARM'S and everyone is real helpful ??? any help would be appreciated
Thanks in advance!!!!

http ://anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=273121
 
AdelV said:
Dosage timing for GW? When is the best time to take? Mate has no idea.
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GW has around a 24 hour half life so just dose it any time during the day. Pick a time and stick to it, you will be gtg
 
Question, so Osta is good at preserving muscle in calorie deficit for recomp, so I was wondering if it could be done to incorporate two workouts in a day...say, normal routine in the morning and something like a 25 minute circuit style training around 5 hours later.

Basic thinking is to get HIT benefits from second workout. Would follow upper lower split same as how I do my morning slits, that way avoid training too many different muscles on the "off" day muscles of the upper lower split.

Thanks.
 
Yes, circuit style training would be great to facilitate fat loss. In fact, I currently use this "military" circuit training three times a week, but with Cardarine instead of Ostarine and few other natural supplements. Of course, this is more of a nice, steady cut than a recomp, but ostarine would certainly help to preserve muscle.
 
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Yup, I'm using osta, rad, cardarine, gharine, and super pct all in my current cut.
Only on my first week though

My routine is a form of hiit, all tabata
 
Giedrius said:
Hello guy's , I'm fighter and coming up my competition, could somebody recommended some very strong (SARM) products? I looking for explosive Power, stamina , endurance, speed, weight loss, and increase testosterone.. thanks
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I'm a fighter as well (kickboxing mostly). Are you doing MMA?

For endurance I love the combo of Ep1c caps + Epic unleashed TD. I also take Conqu3r which really seems to help endurance wise as well. Though with MMA you won't really want to get too much of a pump going as that can hinder mobility/explosiveness a tad.

Haven't tried carder1ne yet so I can't comment there other than feedback would suggest you may need some time to adjust diet/dosing to find the sweet spot.
 
derekf22 said:
when do you start the pct for this
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The day after your last dose, ph/ds/sarms have a short half life, usually around 24 hours. Trest has a half life of only 2 hours!
 
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