yates84
Well-known member
Gharine (mk677) is non hormonal and would go great in your stack as well. Nutriverse has our whole Olympus UK line for 25% off right now, jump on it while you can! I just burned my cc up!
SARM's, MK, & GW : A User's Guide
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Gharine (mk677) is non hormonal and would go great in your stack as well. Nutriverse has our whole Olympus UK line for 25% off right now, jump on it while you can! I just burned my cc up!
yates84
Well-known member
You must type faster than me!
Hastur
Well-known member
I'm placing my order with Nutriverse today, the deals are too good to pass up!
Haha, well when I have a computer at my fingertips I'm pretty darn quick at typing.
But now I'm going mobile again, and back at the mercy of my 3G...
Jeff5886
Member
Thanks again bro. Im thinking now that the best stack to ensure ZERO gyno would be MK677 & GW. I am regularly tested for drugs at work as well as random steroid tests; for this reason I cannot take clomid or any other prescription drug/ run a proper PCT. With that bein said, would you concur that MK & GW would be a good alternative to other Sarms requiring serms?
CJNator
Well-known member
MK and GW aren't SARM but for some reason gets roped into the category. They both can be stacked with any SARM. In my opinion when it comes down to suppression from least to greatest it goes:
•Ostarine: great for cutting/recomping but can be used for bulking, best dosed between 15-25mg.
•S4: great for recomping/bulking but not a recommended SARM because of the side effects, best dosed between 50-75mg.
•LGD: good for recomping and bulking depending in diet, usually dosed between 3-10mgs
•RAD140: not too much on it but I've seen 2 people in the logs recomp greatly with on it but only good to use for a month to avoid being lethargic, I don't know recommended dosage for this
This is all my opinion from what I've read. If I'm wrong somewhere someone will correct me
Hastur
Well-known member
No problem, man! You are correct, there should be no risk of gyno with MK-677 and GW as neither have any associations with Estrogen or Testosterone. I would concur that MK & GW are good alternatives to SARMs that require SERMs in PCT, for the purposes of non-suppressive recomping.
sanmarino
Member
Hi yates84
I don't write you a PM maybe it's also interesting for other users.
Until now, 4 weeks and 3 days passed since I made the request for the HPLC/MS analysis for the RAD-140 of OL UK.
Unfortunately, other companies managed to send me their file within hours to 2 days maximum. Beside the fact that I could evaluate a very good quality product, to "attract" clients with a third party laboratory won't be that nice if there is none (if so; just speaking generally). Just saying. Theoretically OL UK should be able to offer dozens of analysis files. I'm sure, there was more than only one batch sold
Nevertheless, thank you for your effort. I won't need the HPLC analysis anymore.
san
I don't write you a PM maybe it's also interesting for other users.
Until now, 4 weeks and 3 days passed since I made the request for the HPLC/MS analysis for the RAD-140 of OL UK.
Unfortunately, other companies managed to send me their file within hours to 2 days maximum. Beside the fact that I could evaluate a very good quality product, to "attract" clients with a third party laboratory won't be that nice if there is none (if so; just speaking generally). Just saying. Theoretically OL UK should be able to offer dozens of analysis files. I'm sure, there was more than only one batch sold
Nevertheless, thank you for your effort. I won't need the HPLC analysis anymore.
san
yates84
Well-known member
Hi yates84
I don't write you a PM maybe it's also interesting for other users.
Until now, 4 weeks and 3 days passed since I made the request for the HPLC/MS analysis for the RAD-140 of OL UK.
Unfortunately, other companies managed to send me their file within hours to 2 days maximum. Beside the fact that I could evaluate a very good quality product, to "attract" clients with a third party laboratory won't be that nice if there is none (if so; just speaking generally). Just saying. Theoretically OL UK should be able to offer dozens of analysis files. I'm sure, there was more than only one batch sold
Nevertheless, thank you for your effort. I won't need the HPLC analysis anymore.
san
I've requested the hplc analysis from the OL owner. Even though you don't need it anymore I will still post it in this thread to ease everyone's minds. The owner has been traveling out of country trying to put together raws for all of our new products. Being away from his main office he just does not have access to these lab tests. He has assured me that as soon as he gets back to new Jersey that he will give me any and all lab tests that are needed. Please understand that the future of his business takes precedent over releasing lab tests on products that have been used by multiple people with sucess. I'm not trying to jerk you around sanmarino but these labs just have not been accessible this last month. Thank you for your understanding
jbryand101b
Banned
SARM's, MK, & GW : A User's Guide
That's awesome! In the spirit of "quenching the interest of other users" as this is a general q&a thread, could you share the other lab results you have an post them up!
Help out the community!
That's awesome! In the spirit of "quenching the interest of other users" as this is a general q&a thread, could you share the other lab results you have an post them up!
Help out the community!
sanmarino
Member
Hi yates84
Fast reply (as always), thanks for that.
Of course, feel free to add it. I will add mine right after yours. Just mention me then.
Quenching the interest of other users? There is nothing to quench around. I didn't personally tested OL UK products but I know thanks to close people that - at least Ostarine - works well. Why should the other products not work? I don't know how you think about that but in case of a Phase 0 substance I'd like to see some analysis (of course also for all kind of substance). I want to be sure (let's say: assurance as high as possible) to receive that what I request for.
This is my standard procedure doesn't matter if OL UK or not. I can imagine, that I'm in such things an exot Others are ordering and testing. I handle this things on other ways. Yates84 was my second contact person (after writing a mail on the official way) in this case So don't interpret it as an offense. Not meant to be one.
So, I needed the HPLC for evaluating. And unfortunately I've already chosen a supplier. The HPLC of OL UK is for sure a good add-on for this general thread.
Regards and enjoy the week
Fast reply (as always), thanks for that.
Of course, feel free to add it. I will add mine right after yours. Just mention me then.
Quenching the interest of other users? There is nothing to quench around. I didn't personally tested OL UK products but I know thanks to close people that - at least Ostarine - works well. Why should the other products not work? I don't know how you think about that but in case of a Phase 0 substance I'd like to see some analysis (of course also for all kind of substance). I want to be sure (let's say: assurance as high as possible) to receive that what I request for.
This is my standard procedure doesn't matter if OL UK or not. I can imagine, that I'm in such things an exot
Others are ordering and testing. I handle this things on other ways. Yates84 was my second contact person (after writing a mail on the official way) in this case So don't interpret it as an offense. Not meant to be one.So, I needed the HPLC for evaluating. And unfortunately I've already chosen a supplier. The HPLC of OL UK is for sure a good add-on for this general thread.
Regards and enjoy the week
Shin Sprints
Member
Hastur
Well-known member
Hi yates84
I don't write you a PM maybe it's also interesting for other users.
Until now, 4 weeks and 3 days passed since I made the request for the HPLC/MS analysis for the RAD-140 of OL UK.
Unfortunately, other companies managed to send me their file within hours to 2 days maximum. Beside the fact that I could evaluate a very good quality product, to "attract" clients with a third party laboratory won't be that nice if there is none (if so; just speaking generally). Just saying. Theoretically OL UK should be able to offer dozens of analysis files. I'm sure, there was more than only one batch sold
Nevertheless, thank you for your effort. I won't need the HPLC analysis anymore.
san
Hi yates84
Fast reply (as always), thanks for that.
Of course, feel free to add it. I will add mine right after yours. Just mention me then.
Quenching the interest of other users? There is nothing to quench around. I didn't personally tested OL UK products but I know thanks to close people that - at least Ostarine - works well. Why should the other products not work? I don't know how you think about that but in case of a Phase 0 substance I'd like to see some analysis (of course also for all kind of substance). I want to be sure (let's say: assurance as high as possible) to receive that what I request for.
This is my standard procedure doesn't matter if OL UK or not. I can imagine, that I'm in such things an exot
So, I needed the HPLC for evaluating. And unfortunately I've already chosen a supplier. The HPLC of OL UK is for sure a good add-on for this general thread.
Regards and enjoy the week
FWIW, these were posted before we released the compounds and products, as Olympus Labs and Olympus UK always does.
GW-501516: 99.31% PURE
LGD-4033: 98.41% PURE
OSTARINE: 99.58% PURE
MK-677: 99.09% PURE
RAD-140: 99.91% PURE
Just copy and paste this into your address bar on your browser to see the HNMR and LC-MS test results:
dropbox.com/sh/qprwpgore1ma8a4/AACSceSxVY6CopT6t710Ui8Ka?dl=0#
I hope this satisfies your inquiries, sanmarino muay thai.
jbryand101b
Banned
SARM's, MK, & GW : A User's Guide
Huh?
You're the one who said you were asking because it would be of interest to the members of the board, and then let it be known you have other lab results that had been given to you by various companies.
This isn't an Olympus UK q&a, please I'm sure, as you put it, everyone would appreciate the lab testing of these products
Huh?
You're the one who said you were asking because it would be of interest to the members of the board, and then let it be known you have other lab results that had been given to you by various companies.
This isn't an Olympus UK q&a, please I'm sure, as you put it, everyone would appreciate the lab testing of these products
sanmarino
Member
Hi Hastur
Thank you very much for providing these results, I appreciate that. I should have contacted the reputants via this thread earlier
It is satisfying to see how this "scene" improved with the high quality of the offered substances - if chosen the right and trustworthy company.
I will also attach my lastly saved analysis.
The Ostarine was tested in 2011 and this batch is sold from a company which quality decreased rapidly, unfortunately. Nevertheless, it was - the time back - very potent and ultra pure. Helpful for comparison. You will e.g. notice the big upward deflection in the OL UK analysis in Ostarine for example in the higher range.
The quality of the RAD-140 I have chosen is a bit higher - but so is also the price (but I don't mind ). I personally think, 99.91% (in case of the RAD-140) is a very good rate for the researches who uses OL UK products with a good price-performance ratio. And satisfied clients are always the happiest clients
Nevertheless, there are only these two auto-savings after the last crash:
dropbox.com/sh/okh3ynnhjrkzxtk/AADq6cKvMyTZ4Mzb__PMaCCha?dl=0
Keep up the good work. Maybe I will also research the OL UK products one day
san
Thank you very much for providing these results, I appreciate that. I should have contacted the reputants via this thread earlier
It is satisfying to see how this "scene" improved with the high quality of the offered substances - if chosen the right and trustworthy company.
I will also attach my lastly saved analysis.
The Ostarine was tested in 2011 and this batch is sold from a company which quality decreased rapidly, unfortunately. Nevertheless, it was - the time back - very potent and ultra pure. Helpful for comparison. You will e.g. notice the big upward deflection in the OL UK analysis in Ostarine for example in the higher range.
The quality of the RAD-140 I have chosen is a bit higher - but so is also the price (but I don't mind
). I personally think, 99.91% (in case of the RAD-140) is a very good rate for the researches who uses OL UK products with a good price-performance ratio. And satisfied clients are always the happiest clients Nevertheless, there are only these two auto-savings after the last crash:
dropbox.com/sh/okh3ynnhjrkzxtk/AADq6cKvMyTZ4Mzb__PMaCCha?dl=0
Keep up the good work. Maybe I will also research the OL UK products one day
san
gagandugan
Active member
jbryand101b
Banned
Hi Hastur
Thank you very much for providing these results, I appreciate that. I should have contacted the reputants via this thread earlier
It is satisfying to see how this "scene" improved with the high quality of the offered substances - if chosen the right and trustworthy company.
I will also attach my lastly saved analysis.
The Ostarine was tested in 2011 and this batch is sold from a company which quality decreased rapidly, unfortunately. Nevertheless, it was - the time back - very potent and ultra pure. Helpful for comparison. You will e.g. notice the big upward deflection in the OL UK analysis in Ostarine for example in the higher range.
The quality of the RAD-140 I have chosen is a bit higher - but so is also the price (but I don't mind
Nevertheless, there are only these two auto-savings after the last crash:
dropbox.com/sh/okh3ynnhjrkzxtk/AADq6cKvMyTZ4Mzb__PMaCCha?dl=0
Keep up the good work. Maybe I will also research the OL UK products one day
san
Thanks, who's that from?
hamdysayed
Well-known member
Yes the members demand it.
sanmarino
Member
gagandugan:
Since my Windows 10 upgrade everything crashed (not an excuse). Every file on my SATA get damaged (who knows why). These are the only one HPLC which were saved in the dropbox cloud
I recently bough a 100GB access :soapbox:
jbryand101b
The Ostarine from a not anymore reputable company in the UK.
The RAD-140 was from a very small, private supplier in Central Europe. No big synthesize.
OL UK is a very good option. Folks, here you have it on black (and blue) on white. Avoid risks and get your research material from a responsible company (1st of all: no advertising, I'm not a reputant. 2nd: IF you have to research, do it right and go the safe way). And OL UK has improved on my personal list with these files
Since my Windows 10 upgrade everything crashed (not an excuse). Every file on my SATA get damaged (who knows why). These are the only one HPLC which were saved in the dropbox cloud
I recently bough a 100GB access :soapbox:jbryand101b
The Ostarine from a not anymore reputable company in the UK.
The RAD-140 was from a very small, private supplier in Central Europe. No big synthesize.
OL UK is a very good option. Folks, here you have it on black (and blue) on white. Avoid risks and get your research material from a responsible company (1st of all: no advertising, I'm not a reputant. 2nd: IF you have to research, do it right and go the safe way). And OL UK has improved on my personal list with these files
sanmarino
Member
See my answer above. Are you thinking, I'm for fun that long time away from an active interaction with the members in this forum? I have to fight with the goddamn W10 sh!t.
Should have stayed on W8...
By the way: I will start next year (not that long anymore) with a RAD-140 research. Maybe as part of a strong SARM stack (S-4 also for sure, MK-677 and GW for "health" reasons. LGD and/or Ostarine would be an overkill). Maybe Trest would be an option. But I have still some time to plan properly.
I'm also interested in other opinions.
I'm looking for a heavy SARM stack like my last one (LGD, S4, GW, MK-677) with which I build up very solid mass. I will also have access to YK-11 in couple of weeks. But honestly: I won't test it that fast. I need the HPLC at first
and of course more information from Japan.Also to test the Myostatin will lead me to take a credit. Will probably be expensive as sh!t.
GNO
Well-known member
At Olympus Labs and at Olympus Labs UK we pride ourselves on the quality of the products we put out into the marketplace. To that end, we have always conducted 3rd party testing on our products and will continue to do so.
Furthermore, at OL UK we are actively doing research on new novel SARMs and delivery systems for orally bunk SARMs as well.
Furthermore, at OL UK we are actively doing research on new novel SARMs and delivery systems for orally bunk SARMs as well.
gagandugan
Active member
If you ask me, you should have stayed with Windows 8. I am thinking about buying a new PC, but I'll wait until most of W10 problems are fixed.
Hastur
Well-known member
Hi Hastur
Thank you very much for providing these results, I appreciate that. I should have contacted the reputants via this thread earlier
It is satisfying to see how this "scene" improved with the high quality of the offered substances - if chosen the right and trustworthy company.
I will also attach my lastly saved analysis.
The Ostarine was tested in 2011 and this batch is sold from a company which quality decreased rapidly, unfortunately. Nevertheless, it was - the time back - very potent and ultra pure. Helpful for comparison. You will e.g. notice the big upward deflection in the OL UK analysis in Ostarine for example in the higher range.
The quality of the RAD-140 I have chosen is a bit higher - but so is also the price (but I don't mind
Nevertheless, there are only these two auto-savings after the last crash:
dropbox.com/sh/okh3ynnhjrkzxtk/AADq6cKvMyTZ4Mzb__PMaCCha?dl=0
Keep up the good work. Maybe I will also research the OL UK products one day
You're quite welcome, its my pleasure to verify that our products are indeed as pure as claimed.
gagandugan:
Since my Windows 10 upgrade everything crashed (not an excuse). Every file on my SATA get damaged (who knows why). These are the only one HPLC which were saved in the dropbox cloud
jbryand101b
The Ostarine from a not anymore reputable company in the UK.
The RAD-140 was from a very small, private supplier in Central Europe. No big synthesize.
OL UK is a very good option. Folks, here you have it on black (and blue) on white. Avoid risks and get your research material from a responsible company (1st of all: no advertising, I'm not a reputant. 2nd: IF you have to research, do it right and go the safe way). And OL UK has improved on my personal list with these files
You say companies managed to send you their files within hours to 2 days maximum. When jbryand101b asked what companies, you didn't list their names. You provide only two tests and say one isn't reputable and the other one is a very small supplier, and they both remained nameless. But your initial post and statement seemed to imply there were several companies you asked for 3rd party tests from, and got them all quickly. I know I can't be the only one that's curious. Have you received 3rd party results from other supplement companies proving purity? Because I think that's what people on here were asking for in these posts:
hamdysayed
Well-known member
sanmarino
yes I have the upgrade button keep bugging me but I'm not doing it.
windows 8 sucked don't think windows 10 will be any better.
CJNator
Well-known member
Wouldn't him saying the companies fall under stating sources or no?
Hastur
Well-known member
Well he asked for our lab results, and we provided them publicly. His initial statement seemed to imply that he had spoken with many other companies and they had all provided lab results as well, and that we had neglected to. Myself, and other members, are interested in who else has lab tested products. It's not as if we are speaking about underground research chemicals and gray market pharmaceuticals. If he hasn't had any other supplement companies provide lab tests besides Olympus UK, then so be it. But that didn't seem to be the case by his remarks.
sanmarino
Member
Of course, I also would be curious
The Ostarine was from research-sarms.co.uk. The second one from a no-name supplier (as said, it's a private one and not registered like OL UK for example, you understand?).
I only made requests for the RAD-140, total three of them. One of them - you have it, the private one - was saved on 08/30/15 (received as fastest one). The other two are not avaiable anymore. I have to search for a software solution to get my mail pw back.
Otherwise I lost a huge amount of data. I know, this looks stupid. But what should I do.
THT and SS are the other two companies. In the worst case I have to make another request.
I will let you know.
The Ostarine was from research-sarms.co.uk. The second one from a no-name supplier (as said, it's a private one and not registered like OL UK for example, you understand?).
I only made requests for the RAD-140, total three of them. One of them - you have it, the private one - was saved on 08/30/15 (received as fastest one). The other two are not avaiable anymore. I have to search for a software solution to get my mail pw back.
Otherwise I lost a huge amount of data. I know, this looks stupid. But what should I do.
THT and SS are the other two companies. In the worst case I have to make another request.
I will let you know.
Hastur
Well-known member
Of course, I also would be curious
The Ostarine was from research-sarms.co.uk. The second one from a no-name supplier (as said, it's a private one and not registered like OL UK for example, you understand?).
I only made requests for the RAD-140, total three of them. One of them - you have it, the private one - was saved on 08/30/15 (received as fastest one). The other two are not avaiable anymore. I have to search for a software solution to get my mail pw back.
Otherwise I lost a huge amount of data. I know, this looks stupid. But what should I do.
THT and SS are the other two companies. In the worst case I have to make another request.
I will let you know.
Thank you sanmarino, for replying swiftly. I do appreciate it, and my curiosity has been satisfied by your answer. I understand your situation, no need to make further requests to other companies to prove your word. However, feel free to contribute any test results you receive in the future. We are all very serious about product purity here, and regard it as being an important factor in producing an honest product that makes our customers happy. Hopefully you are satisfied by the test results we've provided, and can see that we strive to give customers the purest products possible.
CJNator
Well-known member
Oh ok just regular companies, understood!
sanmarino
Member
Thank you sanmarino, for replying swiftly. I do appreciate it, and my curiosity has been satisfied by your answer. I understand your situation, no need to make further requests to other companies to prove your word. However, feel free to contribute any test results you receive in the future. We are all very serious about product purity here, and regard it as being an important factor in producing an honest product that makes our customers happy. Hopefully you are satisfied by the test results we've provided, and can see that we strive to give customers the purest products possible.
All right. I know it looks strange to "loose" the files which are requested in shortern time. But you maybe know: when you think it can't be worser something somehow happens worser....
Of course I will try to get it. It is always interesting to see other HPLC's. I've chosen the private one by the way because of the geographically access (and because he adds stevia
).I have found in another account another HPLC. Didn't knew I made a request at IP... I added it to my dropbox. Use the same link as posted: dropbox.com/sh/okh3ynnhjrkzxtk/AADq6cKvMyTZ4Mzb__PMaCCha?dl=0
Indeed, I am satisfied, thank you once again. I was (and still am) positively surprised about the excerpts when thinking about the end-price. Will definitely research with OL UK products one day. But first, I absolutely have to use the other research material first otherwise it gets bad haha. And I don't have only 1-2 products....
san
Hastur
Well-known member
All right. I know it looks strange to "loose" the files which are requested in shortern time. But you maybe know: when you think it can't be worser something somehow happens worser....
Of course I will try to get it. It is always interesting to see other HPLC's. I've chosen the private one by the way because of the geographically access (and because he adds stevia
I have found in another account another HPLC. Didn't knew I made a request at IP... I added it to my dropbox. Use the same link as posted: dropbox.com/sh/okh3ynnhjrkzxtk/AADq6cKvMyTZ4Mzb__PMaCCha?dl=0
Indeed, I am satisfied, thank you once again. I was (and still am) positively surprised about the excerpts when thinking about the end-price. Will definitely research with OL UK products one day. But first, I absolutely have to use the other research material first otherwise it gets bad haha. And I don't have only 1-2 products....
san
I understand completely, we are all prone to bad luck from time to time. I hope that all computer issues end up getting sorted out for you! Once again, you are quite welcome, I am glad that you are satisfied with the provided results. I think you will enjoy Olympus UK's products when you decide to use them in the future.
sanmarino
Member
Call out = "to challenge someone in some way. Or to put someone on blast."
As said, I didn't challenge here anyone (and sorry about your labor day, you still have couple of hours to enjoy it).
One more time it seems to be a misunderstanding. I should have asked here and hastur would have given the things I needed.
HLPC are part of the SARM-story, aren't they (rhetorical question, no answer needed)?
Go ahead.
Off-topic ends here. Sorry again if I failed (haha)
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Hastur
Well-known member
There are no issues here! So, I just entered PCT after my Radar1ne cycle, pre-cycle weight 185, post-cycle weight 200lbs, so 15lbs in 6 weeks. Not bad! Going to be taking measurements later to compare my post-cycle measurements to my pre-cycle measurements. And of course, I plan to update people on how much weight I retain as PCT continues forward.
JONimal
Member
RAD solo??
Hastur
Well-known member
No, I did stack Radar1ne with Halodrol. There are more than a handful of people out there who ran or are running Radar1ne solo though, with similar results.
zman86
Member
Haha dang I was about to say...no way One can get bulk 10-15 lbs from a sarm in 4 weeks. Even with LGD, a good bulking run requires 6-8 weeks.
Shin Sprints
Member
Quick question...
I was planning on doing first ever cycle, it would be 8 weeks Osta/Derma...my plan was to not drink alcohol for the duration with run starting start of October.
So the thing is some things have just cropped up which would involve alcohol, probably two nights of drinking in October.
I know Osta isn't mentholated but also would recognize that it better to run without any alcohol intake.
What would precautions I could take? Dose a cycle support while on Osta/Derma?
Thanks.
I was planning on doing first ever cycle, it would be 8 weeks Osta/Derma...my plan was to not drink alcohol for the duration with run starting start of October.
So the thing is some things have just cropped up which would involve alcohol, probably two nights of drinking in October.
I know Osta isn't mentholated but also would recognize that it better to run without any alcohol intake.
What would precautions I could take? Dose a cycle support while on Osta/Derma?
Thanks.
yates84
Well-known member
It would be best not to drink on cycle. That being said, a couple of beers one night probably won't hurt you. If at all possible I would refrain from drinking if possible
Shin Sprints
Member
The problem is that I boxed off these months deliberately as I could likely get away without drinking and now these couple of nights have become unavoidable.
If I leave till November I run into Christmas and more stuff that becomes unavoidable.
Damn social life
If I leave till November I run into Christmas and more stuff that becomes unavoidable.
Damn social life
kboxer7
Well-known member
The problem is that I boxed off these months deliberately as I could likely get away without drinking and now these couple of nights have become unavoidable.
If I leave till November I run into Christmas and more stuff that becomes unavoidable.
Damn social life
I hear you.
If its a social thing like a bar etc, order beer with a dark bottle so that you can sip on it and no one really knows if its empty or full. I did that while on a Halo cycle way back in the day at the bar and everyone thought I was drinking as much as they were.
Another suggestion that is simple but effective is to just pound a glass of water after every beer or whatever.
Lastly, DON'T take TUDCA prior to ingestion of alcohol.
While TUDCA has been shown to reduce liver cell death induced by ethanol and preserve mitrochondrial function...The protective benefits were seen when administered at the same time OR after inclusion of ethanol.
IF TAKEN PRIOR TO ALCOHOL INGESTION (PRE-LOADED), DAMAGE TO LIVER CELLS CAN BE INCREASED
Henzel K, et al Toxicity of ethanol and acetaldehyde in hepatocytes treated with ursodeoxycholic or tauroursodeoxycholic acid . Biochim Biophys Acta. (2004)
yates84
Well-known member
No pct for females, no hpta to restart
GreekTheBrick
Active member
Abuse city!
gagandugan
Active member
None.
Shin Sprints
Member
Thanks. Not a bad suggestion on the dark bottle but I tend to fair better on vodka.
Thanks for the TUDCA warning too, I was going to stay away from it. Was thinking Milk Thistle and NAC for liver support.
The water is also a good suggestion. I would be cautious to drink less than I would on a normal night out...ideally I wouldn't drink at all and avoid nights out but the something that came up it is not an option to avoid...nor drink.
I will look at the calendar and see how best I might be able to limit the exposure.
Thanks.
kboxer7
Well-known member
No problem man. TUDCA is AMAZING at what it does, just not right before alcohol haha.
Shin Sprints
Member
I have cut down my alcohol intake and don't drink very often but it is next to impossible to go out on a night out and not drink which is why I tend not to go out if I don't want to drink...but alas, these couple of nights are not nights I can avoid going out for.
There are certain cultural expectations around drink that makes it impossible to go out and not drink...that might sound stupid and a crutch but it isn't.
Anyway, I don't want to derail the thread, so thanks for all the input.