I have run it as high as 40 mg, but 30 mg is sufficient as I really didn’t see any additional benefit at 40 mg. I love it as a cutter, but also stack it on bulks with DMZ. It gives me strength gains even when in a caloric deficit and it is very dry, thus it gives a shredded look. I am on trt so didn’t have to do PCT, but If you run it you will for sure need a prescription Serm for PCT to recover. In my opinion it is the strongest Sarm, but it has been known to cause shut down more so than other Sarms.