SARM vs PH

bananagains said:
I've done plenty of research and no I ordered it online. I will not recommend some halfassed product that has barely any research behind it. Get something that works aka a ph
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I have seen plenty of studies behind sarms, there are more studies done on sarms then most other supplements. Most supplements are put together without any specific studies done on them as a whole and only individual ingredients.

Btw on week three of LGD and just put up a PR on flat bench and PR in reps for incline
 
TheGoodLife35 said:
Btw on week three of LGD and just put up a PR on flat bench and PR in reps for incline
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This can't be possible. SARMs don't work. You must be doing something else right.
 
Lol okay just saying that you could doing serious damage long term. You're right and that's why I mentioned I haven't used them. Maybe I'll give em a go, but they are a bit spendy.
Would osta work well for a girl? Does it have fat burning properties?
 
bananagains said:
Lol okay just saying that you could doing serious damage long term. You're right and that's why I mentioned I haven't used them. Maybe I'll give em a go, but they are a bit spendy.
Would osta work well for a girl? Does it have fat burning properties?
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Plenty of supplements are harmful long term, plenty of approved drugs given to children and elderly are harmful long term or taken in high doses. The fact is we all will die sooner or later but as long as you are smart and safe have fun lol.

Yea plenty of girls are using Osta and LGD actually and I haven't seen anything negative posted on either.

Honestly the weird thing is for about four days last week I felt nothing no pumps, energy or strength. I took two days off the gym and now I feel fantastic and like I'm on a PH again. So as others have said on sarms you don't really notice it dramatically but they are there and working. :)

Btw I got bloods done today and hopefully can get the results mailed to me next week.
 
TheGoodLife35 said:
Plenty of supplements are harmful long term, plenty of approved drugs given to children and elderly are harmful long term or taken in high doses. The fact is we all will die sooner or later but as long as you are smart and safe have fun lol.

Yea plenty of girls are using Osta and LGD actually and I haven't seen anything negative posted on either.

Honestly the weird thing is for about four days last week I felt nothing no pumps, energy or strength. I took two days off the gym and now I feel fantastic and like I'm on a PH again. So as others have said on sarms you don't really notice it dramatically but they are there and working. :)

Btw I got bloods done today and hopefully can get the results mailed to me next week.
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Good honest feedback.

Are you going to share your bloodwork results?
 
bananagains said:
Lol okay just saying that you could doing serious damage long term. You're right and that's why I mentioned I haven't used them. Maybe I'll give em a go, but they are a bit spendy.
Would osta work well for a girl? Does it have fat burning properties?
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^^^^ Runs 1 four week cycle with no pct and all of a sudden he's a pro in every thread offering his shiity advice.

Is it possible to not be a complete shiit bag? At least in some small doses here and there? Cannot use 19 yrs old as an excuse, I know many tolerable teenagers. And would never insult my 19 year old self in such a way.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
I'll be doing this exact protocol in Feb (Stupid homeostasis down-time! :)). You think Dermacrine is needed?
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Won't hurt, I've done it without dermacrine and with. Of course I loved having dermacrine with it. The cycle is a breeze though and good strength gains
 
See, my opinion isn't lone. Like I said I based it on research. Also, I'm not 19 numbnuts. I'm 18. Don't get your panties twisted.
 
I am running pct btw you nincompoop. Just saving Clomid for if I actually need it. I have a bloods test scheduled. I feel great. Still making gains.
 
Dma378 said:
^^^^ Runs 1 four week cycle with no pct and all of a sudden he's a pro in every thread offering his shiity advice.

Is it possible to not be a complete shiit bag? At least in some small doses here and there? Cannot use 19 yrs old as an excuse, I know many tolerable teenagers. And would never insult my 19 year old self in such a way.
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Wonder if his parents tried Invalid Link Removed
 
bananagains said:
See, my opinion isn't lone. Like I said I based it on research. Also, I'm not 19 numbnuts. I'm 18. Don't get your panties twisted.
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So by your logic, SARMs didn't work for some people. So in turn SARMs don't work. Mmmmkay bud. I wouldn't call your selective reading "research".

Let me play by your same logic...

I have run Ostarine twice, and RAD-140 once, both with fantastic results FOR EACH GIVEN GOAL. So therefore SARMs must work the same for everybody. Is that about right?
 
bananagains said:
Lol okay just saying that you could doing serious damage long term. You're right and that's why I mentioned I haven't used them. Maybe I'll give em a go, but they are a bit spendy.
Would osta work well for a girl? Does it have fat burning properties?
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Maybe if you did research like you said you'd know these answers , yes osta works for women but may have fertility sideffects , does it burn fat ? It AIDS in keeping muscle in a caloric deficit so you could say yes, and sarms being selective effect less of the body ie no effect on prostate , lipids(may be user dependent) , little effect on LH and FSH , while prohormones effect these things highly ... Your kinda just digging yourself a hole ...
 
VWMeatHead said:
PH's > SARMS any day.

I personally have tried a few SARMS and have found them to be garbage.
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Well yeah duh PH > SARM, they're a lot stronger. Doesn't mean SARMs don't work though, I've had great results with ostarine while cutting, and my next cycle includes RAD and LGD so I'll be able to observe how those work for me as well.
They all have their applications.
 
VWMeatHead said:
PH's > SARMS any day.

I personally have tried a few SARMS and have found them to be garbage.
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In clinical trials there was found to be some Sarm non responders so I'm sure you aren't the only one. (Osta clinical trails I believe)

Yes I'll share my lab results when I get them back
 
BamBam0319 said:
Well yeah duh PH > SARM, they're a lot stronger. Doesn't mean SARMs don't work though, I've had great results with ostarine while cutting, and my next cycle includes RAD and LGD so I'll be able to observe how those work for me as well.
They all have their applications.
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I just personally have seen no positives in including SARMS in my own experiences.
 
VWMeatHead said:
I just personally have seen no positives in including SARMS in my own experiences.
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Yeah I understand. I guess just don't waste your money and leave it for the people it does work for! Lol
 
bananagains said:
See, my opinion isn't lone. Like I said I based it on research. Also, I'm not 19 numbnuts. I'm 18. Don't get your panties twisted.
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Yeah i can find research saying unicorns are real, till i see one im not believing sh*t. Sorry unicorn believers

Take your research and go somewhere else
 
Meh, if I'm going to get shutdown, I'd rather take the more aggressive route (DS/AAS).

Ostarine makes my joints feel wonderful though. :)
 
123abcabcabc said:
Meh, if I'm going to get shutdown, I'd rather take the more aggressive route (DS/AAS).

Ostarine makes my joints feel wonderful though. :)
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That's why I just combine SARMs with other things! And yes ostarine is a godsend especially when you're dry as hell at the time
 
123abcabcabc said:
That's why I try to avoid Letro lol. Usually proviron w/ aromasin on cycle keeps my estro in check.
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Yep me too, my aromasin was just either bunk or severely underdosed. Need to get pharma grade or switch to adex next time. Proviron's a good idea...
 
Had my labs done two days ago, spoke to the doc and he said everything is with range. I should have the results mailed to me sometime next week. I'm on 10mg LGD
 
TheGoodLife35 said:
Had my labs done two days ago, spoke to the doc and he said everything is with range. I should have the results mailed to me sometime next week. I'm on 10mg LGD
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Awesome news man!

Which brand of LGD are you on? Sorry if I already asked you that in another thread, hard keeping track of all the logs : )
 
kboxer7 said:
Awesome news man!

Which brand of LGD are you on? Sorry if I already asked you that in another thread, hard keeping track of all the logs : )
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Where did I get it from lol, I think SS

T-Bone said:
So what did you have tested? Full CMP?. Total testosterone?. Free testosterone?....
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I get my lipid panel done monthly although sometimes I add a few more panels so I can check my thyroid ect. I'll post my results of everything I get back when it comes next week. I never had my testosterone checked though and I'm sure I am shut down anyway haha
 
TheGoodLife35 said:
Where did I get it from lol, I think SS



I get my lipid panel done monthly although sometimes I add a few more panels so I can check my thyroid ect. I'll post my results of everything I get back when it comes next week. I never had my testosterone checked though and I'm sure I am shut down anyway haha
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Lipid panel monthly?. Insurance actually approves that?. That's interesting, do you actually see much difference month to month?
 
T-Bone said:
Lipid panel monthly?. Insurance actually approves that?. That's interesting, do you actually see much difference month to month?
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I do it because of my usage of supplements , trying new diets, beer festivals ect. I have borderline hypertension also and I believe product I take for that can be bad for lipids.
 
Osta shred was my favorite cycle in terms of how i felt during cycle and the lean gains were nice at 6-7 weeks, closely followed by bulk up.

Got the best result in terms of mass gains from super dmz 2, got massive but felt like **** and was sick the last week. Epi was amazing for leaning down and bit of size, probably most noticeable changes from it, but got bad headaches and nausea.
 
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