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RETURN FROM THE DEAD: Summer Cut/NOS Stack Review Edition

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Man I don't mean to post my life on your log but after I listened to your advise on the Nandro addition...I don't know if it was just what the dr. ordered or what. I spent 3 hours in the gym throwing plates around like an Italian housewife. That combined with non stop endurance I looked like someone shaved a guerrilla, injected him with rabies and made genetic alterations. to his puny body. I had to catch myself from training to hard because I remembered that I'm still healing the injuries. Hats off to you man you called a great audible.
 
FRITZBLITZ said:
Man I don't mean to post my life on your log but after I listened to your advise on the Nandro addition...I don't know if it was just what the dr. ordered or what. I spent 3 hours in the gym throwing plates around like an Italian housewife. That combined with non stop endurance I looked like someone shaved a guerrilla, injected him with rabies and made genetic alterations. to his puny body. I had to catch myself from training to hard because I remembered that I'm still healing the injuries. Hats off to you man you called a great audible.
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Great news! Im glad my advice helped. Now listen to my other advice where I said to start really slow, I know it can get really exciting and its super tempting but its only gonna set you back. The way I see it is, every time I feel like pushing myself beyond what I know my body can handle and heal with, I weigh out the amount of muscle i will gain with how long it could set me back. Pretty simple math.
 
hazard12 said:
Great news! Im glad my advice helped. Now listen to my other advice where I said to start really slow, I know it can get really exciting and its super tempting but its only gonna set you back. The way I see it is, every time I feel like pushing myself beyond what I know my body can handle and heal with, I weigh out the amount of muscle i will gain with how long it could set me back. Pretty simple math.
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Youre right of course and for sure a thanks for the training reminder. You were going to drop a link for injury WO so I could phase them in. I think I might see if it's possible to make a TD of these ratios, Just feel really spot on. TBC
 
FRITZBLITZ said:
Youre right of course and for sure a thanks for the training reminder. You were going to drop a link for injury WO so I could phase them in. I think I might see if it's possible to make a TD of these ratios, Just feel really spot on. TBC
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Honestly, I get a lot of my rehab workouts from youtube and online. I just figure out what needs rehabbing and look up rehab exercises for that muscle or area. That usually takes me to some useful stuff.
 
Thanks. I'll dig into that. I know you do hardcore yoga for stretching, but any other good resources for stretching that you have used? If I did try to find a yoga routine online could you shoot me some pointers of what to search? I'm crazy sore and tight even in muscle I didn't work. It's just going to get worse as I go on.
 
FRITZBLITZ said:
Thanks. I'll dig into that. I know you do hardcore yoga for stretching, but any other good resources for stretching that you have used? If I did try to find a yoga routine online could you shoot me some pointers of what to search? I'm crazy sore and tight even in muscle I didn't work. It's just going to get worse as I go on.
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Do you have a theracane, foam rollers and lacrosse balls? Those are more effective than stretching in my experience. What I will do is first warm up doing some active stretching or cardio, then do some mild passive stretching, then use the theracane, foam roller and lacrosse balls to dig into my knots and release all the sore/tight stuff and then finish off with some more passive stretching to make sure **** doesn't recoil right away.

Also look into how to use these 3 to specifically target the areas that you need. Trigger point release therapy has a lot of resources online and **** works
 
FRITZBLITZ said:
Thanks. I'll dig into that. I know you do hardcore yoga for stretching, but any other good resources for stretching that you have used? If I did try to find a yoga routine online could you shoot me some pointers of what to search? I'm crazy sore and tight even in muscle I didn't work. It's just going to get worse as I go on.
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Buy a knobby ass foam roller and befriend a physical therapist. Poof.
 
hazard12 said:
Do you have a theracane, foam rollers and lacrosse balls? Those are more effective than stretching in my experience. What I will do is first warm up doing some active stretching or cardio, then do some mild passive stretching, then use the theracane, foam roller and lacrosse balls to dig into my knots and release all the sore/tight stuff and then finish off with some more passive stretching to make sure **** doesn't recoil right away.

Also look into how to use these 3 to specifically target the areas that you need. Trigger point release therapy has a lot of resources online and **** works
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I dont know what Therecane is. I think I know what you guys are talking bout a 3' by 10" diameter foam roll, I have not seen 1 with nobbies I'll check the net. I do have lacross balls, but I might be missing the picture how do you use this on your arms, pecs, traps, lats? I use lacross ball for my hammys but I'm at a loss.

btur2915 said:
Buy a knobby ass foam roller and befriend a physical therapist. Poof.
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If I had a PT or massage therapist I wouldnt make it to the gym haha,
 
Days 23/24 : Cardio-Stretch/Rest

Still nursing my coracobrachialis. I have also been struggling with hydration. I legit need to wake up in the middle of the night and have 3-4 glasses of water or I wake up dehydrated. This might be one thing I will like to see change when I go into PCT. Its going to make it easier to keep up with my muscles. Oh, wanna know how I know im dehydrated? If Im not on top of my hydration close to bed time, ill wake up with my whole neck tight as ****. Wednesday morning I actually woke up with a tight neck despite my 3-4 times waking up and drinking water. **** boggles my mind. Luckily I have a doctors appointment tomorrow and theres a good chance I will get some muscle relaxants.So far thats the one thing that allows me to sleep and wake up like a normal human being.

Body Comp Progress: Core starting to look reaaaally tight. Im looking forward to the before and after comparison pic. Chest and shoulders are definitely underdeveloped but its alright. Once I am able to fully train im going to focus on bringing lagging bodyparts up to par.

Injury Progress: coracobrachialis feels a little stronger and not tender although im not sure its strong enough to hold me while doing push ups or uo n down dogs at yoga. Regardless, I think I will give yoga a shot tonight and play it safe.

Workout details:
Cardio 30min 3.7 + Lots of stretching
Rest


Subjective feeling: Cycle is coming to an end and theres a lot of mixed feelings. Hopefully things will look better soon.

Side effects: Aggresion (although I think its mostly due to frustration. Not being able to lift right now is almost unbearable but its got to be done), mild acne, oily skin, mild insomnia, lots of sweating, dehydration unless I am super diligent with water intake.

NOS Stack Review:
Desoxy-T: Recomping me like a champ, all my food goes to muscle growth. Very androgenic which I am LOVING. I can see why people say its a more anabolic masteron.
11-kt-diol: Stuff is strong. I have a feeling the reason I am having insomnia and excessive dehydration is because of my 2.5ml/day dose at the moment. I am going to lower it to 1.5ml and see if it helps.

Hoping tonights yoga session brings me some relief and tomorrows doc appointment as well.
 
hazard12 said:
Days 23/24 : Cardio-Stretch/Rest

Still nursing my coracobrachialis. I have also been struggling with hydration. I legit need to wake up in the middle of the night and have 3-4 glasses of water or I wake up dehydrated. This might be one thing I will like to see change when I go into PCT. Its going to make it easier to keep up with my muscles. Oh, wanna know how I know im dehydrated? If Im not on top of my hydration close to bed time, ill wake up with my whole neck tight as ****. Wednesday morning I actually woke up with a tight neck despite my 3-4 times waking up and drinking water. **** boggles my mind. Luckily I have a doctors appointment tomorrow and theres a good chance I will get some muscle relaxants.So far thats the one thing that allows me to sleep and wake up like a normal human being.

Body Comp Progress: Core starting to look reaaaally tight. Im looking forward to the before and after comparison pic. Chest and shoulders are definitely underdeveloped but its alright. Once I am able to fully train im going to focus on bringing lagging bodyparts up to par.

Injury Progress: coracobrachialis feels a little stronger and not tender although im not sure its strong enough to hold me while doing push ups or uo n down dogs at yoga. Regardless, I think I will give yoga a shot tonight and play it safe.

Workout details:
Cardio 30min 3.7 + Lots of stretching
Rest


Subjective feeling: Cycle is coming to an end and theres a lot of mixed feelings. Hopefully things will look better soon.

Side effects: Aggresion (although I think its mostly due to frustration. Not being able to lift right now is almost unbearable but its got to be done), mild acne, oily skin, mild insomnia, lots of sweating, dehydration unless I am super diligent with water intake.

NOS Stack Review:
Desoxy-T: Recomping me like a champ, all my food goes to muscle growth. Very androgenic which I am LOVING. I can see why people say its a more anabolic masteron.
11-kt-diol: Stuff is strong. I have a feeling the reason I am having insomnia and excessive dehydration is because of my 2.5ml/day dose at the moment. I am going to lower it to 1.5ml and see if it helps.

Hoping tonights yoga session brings me some relief and tomorrows doc appointment as well.
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You will feel much better at 1.5ml. 2.5 is way too much as this stuff is strong.
 
btur2915 said:
You will feel much better at 1.5ml. 2.5 is way too much as this stuff is strong.
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Yeah. I have to say though, it does seem like the 2.5ml is having a really strong recomp effect. I feel like crap in the mornings but I look amazing haha. Not worth it in the long run though. It could be a neat way to dry up really hard before a competition or a specific date.
 
FUUUUUUUUUCK. I really want to go do yoga but ive never deal with a coracobrachialis injury before and its the creepiest thing ever. This **** is literally wrapped with nerves and blood vessels and its so hard to tell whats going on with it. Sometimes it feels just fine but its definitely shortened and hardened and I cant tell untill I try to raise my arm laterally and SUPRISE my arm goes up about 45 degrees before i hear a click and I can feel the weight has been transferred on to my upper trap and the mofo is just sitting there like "sorry brah cant go that far"...

I try to do some rehab, self massaging and stretching and thats when **** gets interesting. Ill get this radiating feeling all the way down my arm into my hand. I just pulsates this really mild although very eerie feeling all along the nerve. I cant tell if the muscle is inflamed and its pressing on the nerve, whether the nerve itself is inflamed or if the muscle has trigger points that are referring pain all over my arm.

Its really frustrating because how I would go about addressing any of these things is very different from the other. As I said, I have never dealt with this **** nor I know anyone who has so im just here shooting blind hoping for the best.

Now im in this ****ty ****ing spot where I dont know if the best for me would be to
a) go to yoga and try my hardest to work some blood into the muscle and help release trigger points.
b) go to yoga and take it really easy, avoid using my left arm when holding my entire weight and hoping for the best.
c) Do some cardio to warm up, stretch the muscle/nerve and try doing really mild flexions to jumpstart recovery.
d) Do nothing, eat well, rest and sleep more to help recover.

So far I have been doing mostly C and some of D as it is the most conservative approach and the last thing I need is to get reinjured right when im transitioning into PCT and be screwed out of working out.

If anyone has any advice here please let me know. I just cancelled the class I had scheduled earlier today because the radiating **** has been getting more noticeable as I sit on my PC at work. I really want to make the most of my cycle and all the **** im taking but as I said...no idea what to do right now.
 
Is this the hot yoga instructor's class? lol

If so, go and ASK HER what you should do.

Maybe she will offer to rub it out for you! lol (never know, right?)
 
First off I have to just make light that reading your log is like going to a pre-med class everyday it's a new injury. That sucks man. I have never had this injury but I think I have an idea of what is causing majority of pain. If it feels like a spiderweb tatoo on the shoulder but inside just underneath majority of muscle? Then I can help a bit . So your nerve pain is being caused by inflamed and thrashed muscle&tendon tissue. The Trashed tissue (small freys that get worse as the rub against other small freys, then get inflamed and friction is increased) this just gets worse with no end and puts preasure on the nerves and also friction on the nerves.. But If you take hard NSAIDS and ICE THE FUKK out of it. I mean a 1qt icepack duct taped (mild preasure but also less range of motion) to the shoulder and tucked infront so that the shoulder is so cold you can feel that main artery cold down your arm. You have to do this to get everything calmed down. Then with iceing and slowwww stretching you can keep it from flaring and eventually it heals after a long time. But you also have a bunch of gear so anything that calms the area down and restricts bloodflow is good. Maybe pop some dbol and jerk off with other arm. Hope that helps.
EDIT massage and rubbing ect is bad for it.
 
Sdog77 said:
Is this the hot yoga instructor's class? lol

If so, go and ASK HER what you should do.

Maybe she will offer to rub it out for you! lol (never know, right?)
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Yeah I already cancelled the class and I really dont feel like flirting when im frustrated by pain and discomfort. This is the main reason I havent made a move yet and its gonna keep getting in the way until im fixed. I just cant focus on anything but whats going on with me.
FRITZBLITZ thanks for the advice bro. I am going to keep doing what I have so far since its slowly working. It just tricks me because the pain isnt that bad and it feels like itll heal in 2 days and 2 days later its mildly better and what I had planned no longer is doable...****ing frustrating. I have a doc. appointment tomorrow, i am hoping I can convince her that **** **** isnt a joke and that I need to muscle relaxant NUKES to get this **** sorted out. or some solid advice because so far the whole medical field in this country has been a disappointment after another.
 
hazard12 said:
Yeah I already cancelled the class and I really dont feel like flirting when im frustrated by pain and discomfort. This is the main reason I havent made a move yet and its gonna keep getting in the way until im fixed. I just cant focus on anything but whats going on with me.
FRITZBLITZ thanks for the advice bro. I am going to keep doing what I have so far since its slowly working. It just tricks me because the pain isnt that bad and it feels like itll heal in 2 days and 2 days later its mildly better and what I had planned no longer is doable...****ing frustrating. I have a doc. appointment tomorrow, i am hoping I can convince her that **** **** isnt a joke and that I need to muscle relaxant NUKES to get this **** sorted out. or some solid advice because so far the whole medical field in this country has been a disappointment after another.
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It's up to you bro. you gotta get through it but even If you just ice it like your pumping liquid nitrogen in your arm it won't hurt to try and a few days can make it calm down. Did you get my PM about Gabapentoin and Baclofen used as a PWO?
 
Day 25 : Rehab/stretching

Reluctantly skipped yoga but decided to not let the day go to waste. I did some really slow reps, focusing on muscle contraction for various muscles that still feel kinda weak or off most of the time (left glute, lower abs) as well as some stretching for muscles that are still shortened/contracted often (left hip flexor, coracobrachialis). I am about to go see a doctor which will hopefully give me some answers and relief.

Body Comp Progress: Still improving, as my core releases and muscles start bearing weight the way they should, the look has been improving a lot.

Injury Progress: Still struggling with coracobrachialis, postural issues and muscle tightness/knots around my neck

Workout details:
Rehab exercises
Stretching


Subjective feeling: Frustrated about having to skip yoga and not knowing forsure how to proceed to maximize results.

Side effects: Same as yesterday although I lowered my 11-kt to 1.5ml and my sleep improved.

NOS Stack Review:
The recomp effect never stops. I highly recommend this stack to anyone looking to recomp. I dont even want to think about it but the results I could be getting by actually lifting weights are probably insane.

Banking on this doc appt.
 
Doctor gave me a baclofen script :D **** yeah! She was kind of an amateur and just went with what I said...great for me. She also said she would look into giving me a 2nd script for whatever the **** is causing me to wake up with my neck turned to stone every day. The baclofen should come in handy for during the day tho
 
hazard12 said:
Doctor gave me a baclofen script :D **** yeah! She was kind of an amateur and just went with what I said...great for me. She also said she would look into giving me a 2nd script for whatever the **** is causing me to wake up with my neck turned to stone every day. The baclofen should come in handy for during the day tho
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Spinal stenosis get an MRI
 
hazard12 said:
Doctor gave me a baclofen script :D **** yeah! She was kind of an amateur and just went with what I said...great for me. She also said she would look into giving me a 2nd script for whatever the **** is causing me to wake up with my neck turned to stone every day. The baclofen should come in handy for during the day tho
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Spinal stenosis get an MRIInvalid Link Removed
 
hazard12 said:
Doctor gave me a baclofen script :D **** yeah! She was kind of an amateur and just went with what I said...great for me. She also said she would look into giving me a 2nd script for whatever the **** is causing me to wake up with my neck turned to stone every day. The baclofen should come in handy for during the day tho
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Bro if you respond that well to baclofen, then unless there is another underlying problem just ask for Flexeril for the night,. Baclofens much stronger sleepier big brother.
 
I just read up on it a little and theres only a little overlap with what I have. I think the most likely cause for it is neurological. I still suffer from a very deep form of PTSD (not the classical fear/trauma, episodic symptoms but rather an overactive CNS and a constant state of alert, even if im tired which makes for a very odd feeling). Im pretty sure the PTSD gets worse when I sleep and I end up clenching my neck, back and chest in a sort of defensive position. I used to suffer major sleep issues which I think also stem from this but now I go to bed properly STONED AS **** so at least I can pass out but about 4h into my sleep the weed wears off and thats when I think my muscles start going nuts. I am hoping she gives me an ativan prescription or some sort of sleeping pill that knocks me out cold till the morning. Once im physically fixed I can work my way into therapy and whatnot.
 
Days 26/27/28/29/30 : Cardio/rehab/stretches

Spent these last days nursing my coracobrachialis, doing lots of cardio, stretching whenever possible and ive been trying to fix some of the postural imbalances that I still have, mostly around my lower abs/hips.

I cant tell if the coracobrachialis is still an issue or if my upper trap now needs to catch up. I am leaning more towards the latter as it seems like there are knots all over my traps making my head shake every now and then. Muscle relaxants are helping but I think I might need some serious deep tissue massage on my traps while biting on something or maybe some dry needling.

Body Comp Progress: Looking amazing honestly. I took some pictures I will post at the end of the cycle. Unfortunately, its is becoming apparent that my right arm has develop a lot more during this cycle than the left (which was to be expected given my limited range of motion and predominance of injuries on my left side.

Injury Progress: I believe whats left is mostly due to my trap and possibly some lingering issues on my corachibrachialis perpetuated by the issues on the upper trap. I am gonna say **** it and go do some light yoga today. Hopefully itll go well and ill go tomorrow again and go for the full class. Itd be nice to finish off this cycle with a couple of yoga sessions to strengthen everything up just a little bit more.

Workout details:
Cardio 3.8 30 min + Stretches + Rehab work
Cardio 3.8 30 min + Stretches + Rehab work
Cardio 3.8 30 min + Stretches + Rehab work
Rest
Cardio 3.8 30 min + Stretches + Rehab work

Subjective feeling: Feeling alright. Muscle tension is something that will always chip away at my mood but otherwise feeling good.

Side effects: Still some night sweats, varying energy levels. I must say, my balls look really good haha. I am excited to see how this transition to PCT goes.

NOS Stack Review:
Recomp king. I seriously recommend this stack to anyone trying to recomp. This combo is going to get you there with cardio and stretches alone hahah. I also look amazing most of the day (except after I take my mk-677 and pig out)

The cycle was supposed to end its 12 weeks over this weekend but I decided to extend it for another week. I unfortunately ran out of TD test but my crazy scientist mid had an idea. I will retain a decent estrogen activity by dosing 4-andro (about 800mg/day) and Max-LMG 75mg/day for the remainder of the cycle. This is in part just a science experiment for me. I took pictures at the beginning of this experimental week so we will see how this last week affects my progress.

I have also stopped the hCG about a week before the end of cycle as well as the t3 (im expecting some rebound from this and I rather be full of androgens which can direct those extra calories to my muscles rather than see what happens at PC). I am still taking torem and things look good.

I think I will be drawing bloods a week into PCT to see if my experimental protocol makes my test levels and LH/FSH bounce quicker than otherwise. (drawing at the beginning would be kind of a waster, I want all the and all androgens to be cleared from my body completely to see how my body behaves then)
 
Nice noodz Hazard! Done a good job with body comp. Esp. with your physical limitations.

Oh, and thanks for the balls update! LOL
 
Sdog77 said:
Nice noodz Hazard! Done a good job with body comp. Esp. with your physical limitations.

Oh, and thanks for the balls update! LOL
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Thanks man, Im always thinking "I wish I could have done more" but oh well. I am dealing with a ridiculously complex injury no doctor seems to be able to pinpoint or even give me clear instructions on how to fix it. Considering I am inventing my protocol as I go, its ending pretty nice. I really hope I can push myself through a couple yoga sessions to strengthen all the small muscles in my upper body.

P.S. You are welcome for the balls update.
 
Day 31 : Mild yoga

I decided to go ahead and do a milder version of my usual yoga practice called Vin Yin. Not as hot and more holding of poses rather than nonstop transitions (better for stretching out ligaments and test out my body). It was the right call and I think I actually could have done this before which would have been helpful but oh well. I also realized my left serratus are freaking asleep most of the time. I had to consciously activate them, otherwise the load is transfered to my upper traps. I punished the crap out of them during the session and now they are a bit tender but ok. I am hoping to rest today and hit the more grueling session tomorrow to give my body a nice growth boost before the end of the cycle.

Body Comp Progress: Yall saw the pic, things are going good. Im hoping to get some more improvements out of this week.

Injury Progress: I need to focus now on strengthening my left serratus and releasing the tightness built up on my left upper trap. I also need to keep working on fixing my lower cross syndrome.

Workout details:
Vin Yin Yoga 60 min

Subjective feeling: Feeling a little drained but im trying to pull through for the last week.

Side effects: Lethargy mostly.

NOS Stack Review:
Yall saw the pic. This stack does that with little exercise... The 11-kt is the truth when it comes to cortisol blocking. 1.5ml is the upper end of what I need to max out its positive effects.

I went full internet ninja and managed to get a bunch of really cool tools I will be trying out shortly to see if they address my lingering chronic tension/tightness issues. Among them: Guanfacine (a2 agonist) Etizolam and Clonazolam (Thienodiazepine and Benzodiazepine with medium and long duration respectively), Tianeptine (SSRE and pain killer) and Bromantane (Dopamine production booster).

I am gonna attack this **** from every pharmacological angle. One of these is bound to do something and once I know what helps, ill see if I can get my doctor to prescribe me something I can use to see this **** to its end.
 
Day 32 : Rest/Stretch/Rehab

Did my usual rest day with some rehab exercises for my lower cross syndrome and serratus. As the serratus is gaining ground, my body is shifting slowly into proper form/posture which is very exciting. I need to find a way to completely release my upper traps but all in all, things are going in the right direction.

Body Comp Progress: The addition of Max-LMG is noticeable. My muscles look fuller and im retaining a bit of water but its fine. Once the water weight comes off I think ill be very happy with the results.

Injury Progress: Traps still stuck, serratus improving, lower cross syndrome improving.

Workout details:
Rest/stretch/rehab

Subjective feeling: Pretty good actually

Side effects: I just felt a little bit of swelling and tenderness on my nips. I started dosing 6-bromo at 1ml/day and prolly will continue till the end of cycle. I have been running hCG and I expect a rather smooth transition in PCT so having lowered levels of aromatase by the end of the cycle will probably be helpful. Also, libido is at an all time high. Very frustrating but oh well, just a couple more days haha.

NOS Stack Review:
Sleep improved greatly upon lowering 11-kt dose to 1.5ml. This is definitely my sweet spot.

I am going to go to yoga tonight for my final training session before the end of cycle.
 
Day 33/34/35/36 : Bikram Yoga/Rest/Cardio-Stretches

So here are the last 4 days on cycle. Thursday I went to do some Bikram Yoga and it was great. Still need to work on my serratus and left trapezius but they performed much better than they have before.

I rested on friday since my body was pretty much asking for it.

On saturday, my last day on cycle, I did a morning session of cardio and stretching. I mostly wanted to let my body heal and trim a little more fat before the end of cycle. I also got a little crazy later that night because one of my closest friend had a brithday party and they peer pressured me into drink *jk I was like **** IT* hahaha.

I paid for it heavily though, spent all of sunday recovering hahha but **** it, I had a blast and got endless compliments on my progress.

Body Comp Progress: Im going to post a picture when I get home.

Injury Progress: Most of whats left is serratus weakness, trapezius tightness and knots between my left shouderblade and spine going up to my neck.

Workout details:
Bikram yoga 60min
Rest
Cardio 15min-Stretches

Subjective feeling: I ended the cycle feeling pretty good (until that sunday morning haha)

Side effects: Cleanest cycle ive ever done. I even got away with drinking here and there and ive had worse hangovers off cycle so theres that.

NOS Stack Review:
This stack is my new frame of reference. My future recomp cycles will have to outperform this one to be considered good.

I will be posting pics soon and from now on WE MOVE ON TO PCT! Ill post my PCT protocol once im home.
 
I'm very impressed with your results! Especially having a major problem try to slow you down every week. Looking forward to Torem PCT feedback. Now that youre all leaned out, how long until you plan on trying a lean bulk cycle?
 
FRITZBLITZ said:
I'm very impressed with your results! Especially having a major problem try to slow you down every week. Looking forward to Torem PCT feedback. Now that youre all leaned out, how long until you plan on trying a lean bulk cycle?
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Once I can actually lift heavy weights and can saee my numbers or reps go up very week, then ill jump the gun. That is of course, unless this injury throws me another curveball. One way or another im taking about 15-20 weeks off and then probably a test e/mast e dien-diol TD cycle. Still gotta figure out what orals. Although I have a bottle of epistane staring at me like "baby when u gon hit dis ass, you know you love it"
 
PCT Total duration 8 weeks
Ill make this short. Started experimental PCT protocol by dosing torem 60mg/day starting 2 weeks before PCT. I had also been using hCG 250UI E3.5D until 1 week before the end of cycle.

Compounds:
Toremifene 30mg/day 1-4
Clomid 40mg/day 1-8
Exemestane As needed (probably starting week 2 since I used 6-bromo towards the end of cycle)
Invictus 2ml/day Week 1-2 1ml/day week 3-8
VII-KT 1ml PW 1-8
MK-677 20mg/day 1-8
CJC-1295 5mg/week
Ipamorelin 100mcg sporadically when it makes sense
TB-500 As needed
BPC-157 As needed
Melanotan-II 500mcg E2D weeks 2-8
MGF 200mcg post workout on lagging bodyparts
Follidrone 4caps/day
Str3ngth Unleashed 2-3 pumps/day
EP1C TD 2-3 pumps/day
M-Test 8 caps/day 1-2 // 6 caps/day 3-8
Syntheselen 2ml/day Week 1 // 1ml/day 2-8
BCAAs
Creatine
PA
ECA

Yall know the drill, from kickstart to PCT, this underlying tone of this cycle is BALLS TO THE WALLS, WE FIXING ME UP FAM!

Diet:
Morning Shake ~60g protein `~600 cals
Lunch Sub ~75g protein ~1000 calories
Dinner Meat ~120g protein ~1200 calories

This will vary slightly depending on how I feel, how much I can train and listening to my body.

Training: Bikram Yoga will remain the core of my tough workouts because ****s working for me. I will also be doing LISS cardio sessions with stretches and rehab whenever needed. I will also try to incorporate some upper body workouts but itll depend on how my left serratus and shoulder muscles heal up over time.

I will be drawing bloods around day 7 to see if the experimental PCT protocol and the heavy artillery is having an effect
 
PCT Days 1/2 : Rest/Bikram Yoga

1rst day of PCT was straight recovering from the party I was at on my last day of cycle, slept like 12h hahah.

2nd day I got some dry needling done around my neck and did some bikram yoga. That **** was crazy, a girl had to step out to puke. Im pretty sure they cranked up the temperature higher than ever before. I sweated POOOOLS. Great workout overall and I can feel my body working better as a whole.

Body Comp Progress: Im about to post some pics. I dont think ive lost anything so far, still look full and feel strong.

Injury Progress: Most of whats left is serratus weakness, trapezius tightness and knots between my left shouderblade and spine going up to my neck.

Workout details:
Rest
Bikram yoga 60min

Subjective feeling: Im feeling pretty good actually. I had some of the best sleep ive had in ages after that yoga session. Overall doing pretty good considering I just experienced a massive drop in hormones in my blood.

Side effects: Mild ED although I think dehydration was a bigger factor than anything else.
 
PCT Day 3 : Rest

Had a pretty chill day although I didnt get as much sleep as Id want due to hanging out with some females. It was my first time meeting them and lets just say once I met them in person, my desires to have a threesome went down significantly hahha. Oh well, you win some you lose some. Although I have to say, it wasnt because of lack of libido. Actually, my libido and "sperm production" has been kinda amazing considering I just stopped all my hormones. My balls arent quite full size by a little but they are behaving as if they were.

Body Comp Progress: About the same

Injury Progress: Most of whats left is serratus weakness, trapezius tightness and knots between my left shouderblade and spine going up to my neck.

Workout details:
Rest

Subjective feeling: Feeling good, so much in fact that I have been constantly trying to figure out ways to get my ass out to parties and ****, I gotta put this new healthier me to good use. Unfortunately I live in a crappy area where all you can find are druggy white trash (as in the girls I met yesterday) or soccer moms and their somewhat stuck up teenage daughters. Its gonna be a tough one.

Side effects: ****s already working like I never cycled....I cant wait to see these bloods.
 
PCT Days 4/5 : Bikram yoga/Rest

On day 4 I went to do some yoga. Boi I need to find a way to regulate my body temperature. I am being wrecked by overheating and dehydration. I still got a decent workout and managed to get my whole body sore. I am feeling the lack of hormones though, my body does seem to take a bit longer to regenerate.

On day 5 I was feeling really worn out by the yoga session and dumbass me forgot my muscle relaxants at home so i basically went through mini torture at work as my muscle started having microspasms and tightness..it drove me so mad at the end of the day I went straight home and dosed some lorazepam, etizolam, xanax, baclofen (my muscle relaxant), mk-677 and smoked a ****load and prestoooo i felt a million times better. I ate and then went straight to bed. Had the best sleep ever and actually lucid dreamt for the first time ever...odd

Body Comp Progress: My muscles have lost a bit of the glycogen all day pump that the triumph had been giving me but I still look pretty good. Its hard to tell what the overall comp looks like cause im always a bit bloated by GH peptides and mk-677 but I think im doing alright.

Injury Progress: Still serratus weakness, trapezius tightness and knots between my left shouderblade and spine going up to my neck. Its a tough battle but my serratus are slowly gaining ground and I need to retrain my brain to hold my posture and breathe with them.

Workout details:
Bikram yoga 60m
Super rest

Subjective feeling: Overall feeling good. on day 5 I felt like **** but that was my bad for forgetting my medicine.

Side effects: None related to the cycle at all. The things that bother me are all related to what remains of my injury.

As a side note, I believe I have found clues as to what the underlying neurological issue is. My hunch is that I suffer from chronically evelated acetylcholine and serotonin levels. These are great for memory and cognition (which explains why I easily achieved 4.0s in college) but they suck in excess over your PNS (muscle spasms, tension, etc..) Im going to have to do some tests to prove this and figure out how to address it with my doctor.
 
btur2915 said:
Damn that is quite the pre-bed cocktail. I think I would be in a coma.
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HAHAHA granted it was a one time thing and all the doses were pretty low (1mg lorazepam, 0.5mg xanax, 1mg etizolam, 60mg baclofen, 20mg mk-677 and 2 bowls of oregon medicinal flower)....

Ok thats low for me haha. In case you havent been paying attention, I suffer from a very particular kind of PTSD where my CNS is always firing (now I think its my cholinergic and serotonergic pathways which are the main overactive ones). A dose that would knock other people on their asses just gets me super mellow and relaxed.

On the other hand, I tried a normal dose of clen and my whole body went into clench cramp mode...so yeah...you just gotta dose things according to what your body asks.
 
hazard12 said:
HAHAHA granted it was a one time thing and all the doses were pretty low (1mg lorazepam, 0.5mg xanax, 1mg etizolam, 60mg baclofen, 20mg mk-677 and 2 bowls of oregon medicinal flower)....

Ok thats low for me haha. In case you havent been paying attention, I suffer from a very particular kind of PTSD where my CNS is always firing (now I think its my cholinergic and serotonergic pathways which are the main overactive ones). A dose that would knock other people on their asses just gets me super mellow and relaxed.

On the other hand, I tried a normal dose of clen and my whole body went into clench cramp mode...so yeah...you just gotta dose things according to what your body asks.
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Very true.
 
PCT Days 6/7/8/9 : Slow cardio/HIIT/Running/Rest

On friday I just did some slow cardio and some stretching.

I went to try to get my bloodwork done on saturday but I got the 5 min late and the whole MTF 50min drive was for nothing. I am so salty about the whole thing ive decided to hold on to my bw purchase and use it later on to check my levels towards the end of PCT. I have a doctors orders bloodwork soon, it doesnt include test but ill be able to see my liver enzymes and other stuff. I honestly highly doubt my test is supressed significantly. I feel pretty great, libido is about average to above average, sperm volume is above average and my balls are at about 80-90% of the biggest ive ever seen them. I also keep doing IF and dont seem to be loosing any muscle or strength (although I do have constant GH pulses, BCAAs and many other supps helping me fine tune this)
After the bloodwork failure I decided to take the anger off by doing some HIIT sprints after a while of not doing them. BOYYYY im out of practice hahah. It was a great workout tho.

On sunday I went for a 20 milk run/jog just to get my blood flowing, tan a little and warm up for some stretches.

On monday I was a dummy and dosed a large amount of invictus in the morning and no ECA. I spent the rest of the day with simptoms of low blood sugar and went home from work early...lesson learned. Fasting + low cortisol + no b-agonist = NO NO

Body Comp Progress: Ive been loosing a bit of weight, prolly around 1lb from where I ended the cycle. This is not what most people would want but in my case this is good. The goal of this cycle was to get me strong/functional and ripped. I am holding off on being swole for when I can actually push weights. I am at about 183lb right now and if I can manage to lose about 1-2lb more in the next month or so, most of which is fat, ill be happy. Next cycle is going to be test/tren and powerful oral goodies I will use to build upon the frame I am trying to fix.

Injury Progress: Managed to get some progress on my trap muscles, serratus and coracobrachialis are still weak/tender but they are slowly improving. My posture is getting better by the day which is very good.

Workout details: (every workout includes lots of stretching)
Walk 30min 3.5
HIIT Sprints 20min
Run/job 20 min
Rest

Subjective feeling: Other than mondays slip up, ive been feeeling pretty good. Mostly cause I am now medicating properly with small amounts of benzodiazepines on top of my baclofen and ECA. I think these are having an odd synergy allowing me to make more progress quicker. (ECA opens uo my airways which makes breathing easier and less strain on my breathing muscles which are heavily compromised).

Side effects: None really...Part of the reason I want to push this bw back now is that depending on how things go, I might just hop on my next cycle rather quick. I know this is not how you are supposed to do things but my case is very sensitive. If my health values are all in range, my test has bounced back and I feel ready for stronger workouts, im gonna jump the gun and keep the ball rolling. Once reinjury and this whole ordeal is in the rearview mirror, ill be more responsible with my time off...or I might just go into TRT if thats what it takes to keep my body from snapping back into injury mode.

I think I have finally found a cocktail of medication that will allow me to keep moving forward: Baclofen/Clonazolam for muscle spasms and tightness and ECA/tianeptine for opened airways allowing me to get more oxygen without putting as much strain on my breathing muscles which is something I had been struggling with.
 
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I recently had the chance to try Androsterone-TD by Nos Labs and I am AMAZED. I dosed 2ml before my workout and I have never felt such a calm alpha feel in my life. Ive used epiandro before at small and large doses and the feel is not even comparable. Epiandro makes me angry and aggressive where as Androsterone-TD just made me feel like I was the alpha in the room, no one could **** with me and nothing could distract me from my workout. I felt calm but ready to **** **** up if needed.

If you are considering a DHT PH for your cycle, I highly suggest you go to NosLabs now and get a bunch, its on super sale right now.

You wont regret it.

I am about to stock up as much as I possibly can, if it was up to me, id run this stuff for all future cycles for the feel alone.

Now im pumped as **** for my Phera cycle, I am pretty sure that phera with this stuff is gonna make me feel like a freaking killing machine on standby.
 
hazard12 said:
I recently had the chance to try Androsterone-TD by Nos Labs and I am AMAZED. I dosed 2ml before my workout and I have never felt such a calm alpha feel in my life. Ive used epiandro before at small and large doses and the feel is not even comparable. Epiandro makes me angry and aggressive where as Androsterone-TD just made me feel like I was the alpha in the room, no one could **** with me and nothing could distract me from my workout. I felt calm but ready to **** **** up if needed.

If you are considering a DHT PH for your cycle, I highly suggest you go to NosLabs now and get a bunch, its on super sale right now.

You wont regret it.

I am about to stock up as much as I possibly can, if it was up to me, id run this stuff for all future cycles for the feel alone.

Now im pumped as **** for my Phera cycle, I am pretty sure that phera with this stuff is gonna make me feel like a freaking killing machine on standby.
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The Phera cycle should be fun. Are you going to be able to start lifting heavy for that cycle?
 
Oh yeah Im pretty sure. Im getting closer and closer to proper lifting, Im just dealing with a dysfunction between my levator scapulae and its opposing muscles. once that gives in ill be able to start lifting. I want to have a decent off cycle lifts base before i start the next cycle. Its an everyday struggle but im hoping for sooner rather than later
 
PCT Days 10/11 : Rest/Bikram Yoga

On day 10 I went home, ate some and passed the **** out...slept like 12h...it was great. Somehow woke up the next day with a bit of sciatica pain tho.

On day 11 I said **** it, maybe some heat and stretching will help the inflammation on my sciatic nerve and I was right haha. I had a tough session because this new formula of supernova I got is ****ing whack. This **** has my core feverish all day from 1 application...

Body Comp Progress: About the same.

Injury Progress: Most of what I got left physically is a dysfunctional balance between my levator scapulae, my serratus and a couple other smaller muscles around my scapula. Its a daily struggle 2 steps forward 1 step back but im inching my way into recovery. My biggest challenge is that my levator is rock solid, not even my chiropractor can get it to dissolve. Im going to keep doing pressure therapy with my theracane which seems to be working a little at a time.

Workout details: (every workout includes lots of stretching)
Rest
Bikram Yoga 60min

Subjective feeling: On my new medication protocol ive been feeling amazing. ECA + baclofen + clonazolam + tianeptine at moderate doses keeps my airways open, my muscles steady and my mood positive. Im also pretty sure my test production is really good right now, I havent felt any simptoms of low T and I even dosed a little exem because 1 nip was a bit tender itchy.

Side effects: None

I am going to try to hit the gym for a back session and maybe some chest if my levator cooperates and allows my shoulder to glide properly.
 
I have bitched about a lot of **** going all sorts of way but I recently took a minute to appreciate how far ive come along because of this cycle. My quality of life is a million times better, my test production is back to normal or above what had become normal due to my injury, basically every aspect of my life has improved from before the cycle to now.

People can say "you should never cycle" "its bad for your health" blah blah blah all they want but I am the living proof that done right, STEROIDS CAN FIX YOUR MOTHER****ING LIFE, WHEN NO ONE ELSE, NOT EVEN DOCTORS COULD

I plan on cycling on and off depending on convenience for the rest of my life. Over the years I have learned a lot about these compounds, my body and how to use all of this information to my advantage and to me, hormones are a way to live better :)
 
Glad you can see the silver lining or just plane silver shinning. What was your true take on torem? Do you think it would make an extreme diff on a heavy cycle?

Not sure what your take on homeopethy is, but my mom is all witch dr and super believer, she bought me a sport cream called [ Boerickle & Tafel Sports Gel ] cuz I kept getting tendonitus in my biceps and was fukking horrid. This cream did wonders, I mean insane good. i'm sur you have to go to some hippy health store but so worth it.

Deff want to see a TD Test, Phera, Dien-Dione [non-methyl right] cycle that wud be sick
 
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