response @ 15 yrs old on hdrol

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Curious on whats so dangerous about running PED's at a young age?
Earlier in the 60's/70's where bodybuilding was popular, these guys never ran PCT's correct?
I believe lee priest was juicing before the age of 18, along with arnold.

What are truly the health issues of this, And where are the people experiencing the horrible issues?

not talking down on kids running hormones, i'm 19 and turning 20 and still waiting for my first cycle (testosterone etc) no ph's, i've done my research unlike a few people I know in my family who is the typical noob always does bench, no squats until they learned why I got big naturally and stayed lean the entire time, not because of squats just dieting etc..


so the big question is, what are the REAL problems?
 
hormone deficiency. i have wondered the same thing arnolds biography said he was doing it at 15/16. i know it is not safe and completely stupid to do it under 20 but the old bodybuilders seem to be fine? sorry if i sound stupid :) thanks guys
 
Gavin9 said:
hormone deficiency. i have wondered the same thing arnolds biography said he was doing it at 15/16. i know it is not safe and completely stupid to do it under 20 but the old bodybuilders seem to be fine? sorry if i sound stupid :) thanks guys
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I doubt majority of these bodybuilders are 'fine' and have done some damage.. but honestly I don't think anything permanent.
Take precautions, and be smart, train smart, i don't see much of a problem.
 
slayer57 said:
I doubt majority of these bodybuilders are 'fine' and have done some damage.. but honestly I don't think anything permanent.
Take precautions, and be smart, train smart, i don't see much of a problem.
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I definitely think it does something permanent. Regardless if you use this or that support supplement or PCT, your body will somehow be affected by the extraneous substance. The questions is how much in my opinion.

It's obvious that it will have some sort of impact, just as introducing anything to our body does. Blood tests show extraneous hormones effect liver values, cholesterol, blood pressure, LH, FSH, and testosterone in the short run.

Whether or not the hormones are directly responsible for long term issues, the temporary fluctuation or elevation of said panels can cause long term or permanent issues (making it an indirect consequence).
 
Anyone 15 is still classed as a child and therefore a parent or guardian has to take responsiblity for the child . someone 15 taking anabolic steroids must raise questions as to whether the child is being brought up correctly both responsibly and morally.

imo AAS ahouldnt be considered until 25 or over.
 
this is actually THE most moronic topic i've seen on AM in quite some time.


i don't even know where to start.
 
soontobbeast said:
this is actually THE most moronic topic i've seen on AM in quite some time.


i don't even know where to start.
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I wouldn't fault the OP though. He seems to be simply looking for information and understanding.
 
CopyCat said:
I wouldn't fault the OP though. He seems to be simply looking for information and understanding.
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if he is simply looking for info ,

why doesnt he read the thread that he is responding to? i think a couple people have stated some of the negatives of roid use

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or maybe before you [ OP] start playing with your hormones try reading a book - Anabolics by William Llewellyn . it will give you all the info you need. you can find the ebook online free if you look.
 
soontobbeast said:
if he is simply looking for info ,

why doesnt he read the thread that he is responding to? i think a couple people have stated some of the negatives of roid use

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or maybe before you [ OP] start playing with your hormones try reading a book - Anabolics by William Llewellyn . it will give you all the info you need. you can find the ebook online free if you look.
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Dishing out gold right there. Advice to heed if there ever was one.
 
slayer57 said:
I doubt majority of these bodybuilders are 'fine' and have done some damage.. but honestly I don't think anything permanent.
Take precautions, and be smart, train smart, i don't see much of a problem.
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Very dumb response, i started juicing at 20 years old and now im stuck on TRT(Testosterone Replacement Therapy) for the rest of my life.. Yeah, i learned alot the hard way and i now will use my experience to steer away youngsters ESPECIALLY under 21.

At your age your test levels are raging to their max, you need to eat A TON of food and grow like a weed. I wish i never would have started so young.

Believe me, some side effects ARE PERMANENT.
 
hot dammmm, never thought we'd hav a thread of a 15 year old usin em. well look at that young hercules kid. his dad fed him roids when he was probably 3
 
Arnold had a heart valve replaced "just as a precaution". It has been attributed to a birth defect in that valve but, ..... who knows.
 
KBD said:
Very dumb response, i started juicing at 20 years old and now im stuck on TRT(Testosterone Replacement Therapy) for the rest of my life.. Yeah, i learned alot the hard way and i now will use my experience to steer away youngsters ESPECIALLY under 21.
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And you aren't the only one, theres a few others here with the same story.
 
TexasLifter89 said:
I definitely think it does something permanent. Regardless if you use this or that support supplement or PCT, your body will somehow be affected by the extraneous substance. The questions is how much in my opinion.

It's obvious that it will have some sort of impact, just as introducing anything to our body does. Blood tests show extraneous hormones effect liver values, cholesterol, blood pressure, LH, FSH, and testosterone in the short run.

Whether or not the hormones are directly responsible for long term issues, the temporary fluctuation or elevation of said panels can cause long term or permanent issues (making it an indirect consequence).
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All True,i had a buddy who in eighth grade(he was 15),did a PH,not sure which one but he did run a cycle.He was the biggest and baddest at school,maybe thats why kids at young ages do it?I dont know,but hes fine,didnt run a PCT.Pretty much,if your 15 and run a PH,take proper support supps,and proper PCT,still your chances of hurting yourself(temporarily/permanently),are ALOT higher then of someone of age.But its not gonna kill you,just on the safe side wait until your of age.Some say 21,some say after 21,i dont know,just wait until your at least 21.
 
soontobbeast said:
this is actually THE most moronic topic i've seen on AM in quite some time.


i don't even know where to start.
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moronic thread? list the facts and tell me who is seriously going through tough times after hormone use at a young age


my dad juiced at 16 to about 20, stopped for a few yrs and jumped back on it, its been about 10 years since hes been on the stuff, he is completely healthy. never used a pct from age 16-20 up until he last used it in the 90's
he has no health issues what so ever, hes about 46 now.

(i do not acknowledge these dumb ass people who are ages 13 to age 50 to use hormones without knowledge) with knowledge, feel free. its your body, just be smart about it, thats all im saying...

explain why my topic is "moronic", thanks
 
slayer57 said:
moronic thread? list the facts and tell me who is seriously going through tough times after hormone use at a young age


my dad juiced at 16 to about 20, stopped for a few yrs and jumped back on it, its been about 10 years since hes been on the stuff, he is completely healthy. never used a pct from age 16-20 up until he last used it in the 90's
he has no health issues what so ever, hes about 46 now.

(i do not acknowledge these dumb ass people who are ages 13 to age 50 to use hormones without knowledge) with knowledge, feel free. its your body, just be smart about it, thats all im saying...

explain why my topic is "moronic", thanks
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Obviously you did not care to see where a poster above is on HRT the rest of his life from use. I also suffered from low testosterone for awhile due to using, however it's starting to recover after 1.5 years. Sure your dad feels fine, but what are his insides and blood tests like? What are his levels compared to men his age?

It's like cigarettes, some people do it forever and never have a problem, others smoke one and they are screwed for life.
 
slayer57 said:
What are truly the health issues of this, And where are the people experiencing the horrible issues?not talking down on kids running hormones, i'm 19 and turning 20 and still waiting for my first cycle (testosterone etc) no ph's, i've done my research unlike a few people I know in my family who is the typical noob always does bench, no squats until they learned why I got big naturally and stayed lean the entire time, not because of squats just dieting etc..


so the big question is, what are the REAL problems?
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I think the OP asked some legit questions in the first post.
 
slayer57 said:
i'm 19 and turning 20 and still waiting for my first cycle (testosterone etc) no ph's, i've done my research unlike a few people I know in my family who is the typical noob always does bench, no squats until they learned why I got big naturally and stayed lean the entire time, not because of squats just dieting etc..
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I'll admit that the punctuation could definitely be better but why are people busting this guy's balls? Did you not read the first post?
 
TexasLifter89 said:
Obviously you did not care to see where a poster above is on HRT the rest of his life from use. I also suffered from low testosterone for awhile due to using, however it's starting to recover after 1.5 years. Sure your dad feels fine, but what are his insides and blood tests like? What are his levels compared to men his age?

It's like cigarettes, some people do it forever and never have a problem, others smoke one and they are screwed for life.
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he is perfectly fine, he had to do alot of **** for health insurance, i forgot what happened but yeah completely healthy, he took precautions for his health taking support supps. and ran light to medium cycles
 
bakerderek0 said:
Using aas/ph at 15 is too risky. Don't mess your balls up that early in life.
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i agree, even 17-18 is risky.

specmike said:
I think the OP asked some legit questions in the first post.
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thanks, just trying to get reasonable answers

TexasLifter89 said:
Obviously you did not care to see where a poster above is on HRT the rest of his life from use. I also suffered from low testosterone for awhile due to using, however it's starting to recover after 1.5 years. Sure your dad feels fine, but what are his insides and blood tests like? What are his levels compared to men his age?

It's like cigarettes, some people do it forever and never have a problem, others smoke one and they are screwed for life.
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i will ask, but the dr def said the steroid use effected him from little to none.
hes still jacked too o_o

KBD said:
Very dumb response, i started juicing at 20 years old and now im stuck on TRT(Testosterone Replacement Therapy) for the rest of my life.. Yeah, i learned alot the hard way and i now will use my experience to steer away youngsters ESPECIALLY under 21.

At your age your test levels are raging to their max, you need to eat A TON of food and grow like a weed. I wish i never would have started so young.

Believe me, some side effects ARE PERMANENT.
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what happens when your not on TRT?
 
specmike said:
I'll admit that the punctuation could definitely be better but why are people busting this guy's balls? Did you not read the first post?
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Anyone can say that, and in fact it's a tactic used to get information for their cycles (I've seen it first hand).

slayer57 said:
i agree, even 17-18 is risky.


thanks, just trying to get reasonable answers



i will ask, but the dr def said the steroid use effected him from little to none.
hes still jacked too o_o



what happens when your not on TRT?
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Weird, I don't know many doctors who will say long term steroid use does little to no alteration. What do you think happens when he is off TRT? The same thing that happens to everyone... T plummets, E probably spikes, and hormonal chaos ensues.
 
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