Unanswered Recomps! What has worked best?
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Old Witch
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I like to make sure my electrolyte ratio is good. No cramps.Usually water.
Potassium and magnesium with lots of water. Sodium is what builds up.
DaveyCrockett
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That study cites a study, look in there or on Google for Petersson et al 2006. I guess I had it half right, we are more likely to die of homicide or suicide than amphetamine or heroin users
DaveyCrockett
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Godd*ammit.
mixedup
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For recomp I like a strong anabolic combines with fatburner
Something like
T3 50 to 100mcg
Clen 80 to 130mcg
Tren ace 75mg eod
I also like using a topical fat burner for problem spots
I combine my clen with a topical that way I dont get alot of clen issues shaky hands etc
Something like
T3 50 to 100mcg
Clen 80 to 130mcg
Tren ace 75mg eod
I also like using a topical fat burner for problem spots
I combine my clen with a topical that way I dont get alot of clen issues shaky hands etc
jrock645
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I do the same with Clen, same dosage too. Don’t even notice it except seeing a bit of fat come off.
Matthersby
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T3 is just a staple for me for recomping.
Still undecided on what injectable but Winn and proviron for sure for orals. If I’m feeling fancy I may just go with Var.
Still deciding got 3.5 weeks left and I’m taking 6-8 weeks off bulking to try to lose the bellyfat I’ve accumulated.
CroLifter
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Man is there any hope to have a beautiful recomp without using tren lol? AAS should just be the tool which we use to improve nitrogen balance right 
and diet is what determines whether we put mass on or whether we shed fat.
What would you guys consider the best alternative to tren which can be added to a moderate dose of test (and a dht like mast/prov in the end to harden up, that is a given) and is not so damn toxic to your ticker and all around hard on your system, digestion, kidneys etc like tren.
My next blast is going to be a recomp and i am just really scared of tren and its negative cardiovascular effects. Might go with test only and throw in mast and proviron in the end.
As far as i can remember there are few steroids that directly promote lipolysis, i remember reading that those are testosterone, trenbolone and dbol. Anavar also seems to target specific type of fat or rather, fat in a certain area of the body.
On a side note definitely following this one. Soaking in as much info as possible.
and diet is what determines whether we put mass on or whether we shed fat.What would you guys consider the best alternative to tren which can be added to a moderate dose of test (and a dht like mast/prov in the end to harden up, that is a given) and is not so damn toxic to your ticker and all around hard on your system, digestion, kidneys etc like tren.
My next blast is going to be a recomp and i am just really scared of tren and its negative cardiovascular effects. Might go with test only and throw in mast and proviron in the end.
As far as i can remember there are few steroids that directly promote lipolysis, i remember reading that those are testosterone, trenbolone and dbol. Anavar also seems to target specific type of fat or rather, fat in a certain area of the body.
On a side note definitely following this one. Soaking in as much info as possible.
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DaveyCrockett
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I had some decent results with a test base and high dose EQ.....seemed a lot cleaner than high dose test. Less estro problems allowed me to run the EQ a little higher as well. My avatar image was after basically about 3 months of test and EQ recomp. Running letro as needed. Body fat dropped drastically during this time. I'm not a massive guy but the body composition change was very noticeable and diet was less restrictive than if i was running test soloMan is there any hope to have a beautiful recomp without using tren lol? AAS should just be the tool which we use to improve nitrogen balance right
What would you guys consider the best alternative to tren which can be added to a moderate dose of test (and a dht like mast/prov in the end to harden up, that is a given) and is not so damn toxic to your ticker and all around hard on your system, digestion, kidneys etc like tren.
My next blast is going to be a recomp and i am just really scared of tren and its negative cardiovascular effects. Might go with test only and throw in mast and proviron in the end.
As far as i can remember there are few steroids that directly promote lipolysis, i remember reading that those are testosterone, trenbolone and dbol. Anavar also seems to target specific type of fat or rather, fat in a certain area of the body.
On a side note definitely following this one. Soaking in as much info as possible.
CroLifter
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That is a really good look. You having achieved it without tren gives me hope lol.
Eq is a no go for me because of my hematocrit problem.
But test+mast should be fine.
DaveyCrockett
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Thanks. Yeah I remember cutting myself when I was building new deck stairs and going inside to have my girl patch me up. She was a little concerned that my blood had basically turned into a blackish pancake syrup type liquid
CroLifter
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Man that is no joke. I actually started at home phlebotomies in hopes of keeping my hct under 0.50.Thanks. Yeah I remember cutting myself when I was building new deck stairs and going inside to have my girl patch me up. She was a little concerned that my blood had basically turned into a blackish pancake syrup type liquid
Thick blood. That is dangerous. Heart attack waiting to happen.
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Matthersby
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Been looking at pet/farm stores and my online needle vendor for phlebotomy kits for at home since I’m damn good with IVs. Drawn my own labs forever. I’m borderline and need to get it down this next month.
Matthersby
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Got both right now but only 6 weeks into NPP. Still debating if I should abandon now or decide on a recomp oils ASAP. Still kicking around ideas.
Probably gonna be Dien Winnie T3 with TRT dose of test. Push the Dien over 550.
I’m fairly certain I can stay 235-240 but lose a 3-5% bf ideally with that combo.
CroLifter
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I just attach an 18g to an open slin syringe and let it drain into a measuring cup where i have a pint predefined so i dont lose too much. I squeeze a pair of socks to get more blood through the needle, ghetto as hell setup hahahah.
Its funny if you are doing it completely alone (not adviseable) since you have only one hand to work with so obviously there is a time delay between the moment when you pull the needle out and the moment you manage to put plaster on the wound. I will let your imagination picture what happens during that period rofl. Its crazy how small differences in hematocrit make a big difference in blood thickness. If hct is roughly under 0.50, its a fountain. If its over 0.50, it barely dribbles.
Its funny if you are doing it completely alone (not adviseable) since you have only one hand to work with so obviously there is a time delay between the moment when you pull the needle out and the moment you manage to put plaster on the wound. I will let your imagination picture what happens during that period rofl. Its crazy how small differences in hematocrit make a big difference in blood thickness. If hct is roughly under 0.50, its a fountain. If its over 0.50, it barely dribbles.
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Matthersby
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That’s where I’m damn good. Ex Army Medic, ex paramedic, ex trauma tech and nursing student. I can get a needle working I’ve just had no luck with damn 20g needles, need a catheter so it’ll stay in place like a vacutainer lab draw kit. I just end up making a mess with the 20g tip. Maybe it’s time to try again with a steady hand.
Matthersby
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Increased vascularity but mainly lower chest and abdominal area fat loss. It takes a lot of food and drugs to get me over 250 so I don’t want to be damn 220 when I’m done. Just can’t keep moving forward with this much bf. It’s going to be a bitch cutting off by the time I feel ready to commit to MP comp.
mixedup
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Yea the cut is going to hard. And I can pretty much guarantee you that the Size and weight you think you'll need isnt. The look you need for physique is unique. I actually know of one guy who won the overall at a big show. And when asked the judges for feed back he was told to compete at the next level he needs to size down a little and come in tighter
Matthersby
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I’m not as concerned with placement as I am with not looking like a 6’3 string bean. I can cut ok but I’m going to elect for a coach for 16 weeks out. Would rather look awesome than fit the mold of 1st place. Which would be great but I don’t want to look small on stage since I’m so lanky.
Smont
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That study cites a study, look in there or on Google for Petersson et al 2006. I guess I had it half right, we are more likely to die of homicide or suicide than amphetamine or heroin users
Old Witch
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DaveyCrockett
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I take just about everything with a grain of salt. But from personal experience, I feel I have been much closer to being involved in a road rage incident which could end in my death, as well as much closer to banging a couple married women, which also could have ended with me being murdered.
But that's just me
mixedup
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Matthersby
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Probably gonna use Tommy Jeffree.
Local NPC coach and really smart guy.
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AZ has a small scene. One IFBB pro Dusty Hanshaw and Fitness Olympia winner Whitney Jones. And of course they know each other since she coaches too.
Matthersby
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I take just about everything with a grain of salt. But from personal experience, I feel I have been much closer to being involved in a road rage incident which could end in my death, as well as much closer to banging a couple married women, which also could have ended with me being murdered.
But that's just me
I keep my .40 within 10 feet of me at all times. It’s always tucked away in a laptop bag. Nobody’s getting to me.
jrock645
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You like .40’s? My MP shield 40 was the first pistol i bought and i hate shooting that damn gun. Such a snappy recoil unique to that caliber. It’ll certainly do the job, though.
Matthersby
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I like glocks and SWs and Berrettas, and Sigs, and really most of them.
I tend to always end up with Glocks and SW full size. Used every caliber. And the recoil is worse on the M&Ps bc they are so small.
Honestly as long as they don’t jam and don’t set me back more than $600, I’ll get 9, 40, 45. I’ve spent some time with a $1400 HK and it shot EXACTLY like my $329 SW did.
Matthersby
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I’m definitely not a hero.
But I’m not a maniac or a coward either. I’m the guy in the office or the crowd that you WANT with a gun. I don’t let my pride get wrapped up in it, or anger, or anything else.
But if someone is going to get kidnapped, stabbed, raped, etc, my first instinct is to get my pistol and unload as soon as I have a shot. Never pointed it anyone except once when a guy was reaching for my door handle with both my boys in car seats in the back at 6months and 2 years later old. That’s how I know I can keep a level head and do what needs to be done.
I recommend it to everyone that has the temperament for it. If you’re unstable leave it alone.
But I sleep like a baby and feel safe everywhere knowing I can protect people around me. It’s a great feeling.
But I’m not a maniac or a coward either. I’m the guy in the office or the crowd that you WANT with a gun. I don’t let my pride get wrapped up in it, or anger, or anything else.
But if someone is going to get kidnapped, stabbed, raped, etc, my first instinct is to get my pistol and unload as soon as I have a shot. Never pointed it anyone except once when a guy was reaching for my door handle with both my boys in car seats in the back at 6months and 2 years later old. That’s how I know I can keep a level head and do what needs to be done.
I recommend it to everyone that has the temperament for it. If you’re unstable leave it alone.
But I sleep like a baby and feel safe everywhere knowing I can protect people around me. It’s a great feeling.
Matthersby
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I feel like this articulated my point the best. Mainly about individual state’s laws on open carry etc
I don’t even take the time to learn the laws when I go to different states. I’m spoiled here in AZ.
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I don’t even take the time to learn the laws when I go to different states. I’m spoiled here in AZ.
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Matthersby
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Crvena zastava (translated: red flag) ftw. Bet most of you dont know that brand
Just heard of, don’t know it though
CroLifter
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Yugoslav army officers used to get those. I believe they are still being produced in Serbia.
Matthersby
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I like the rounds in Altered Carbon.
You want to see some killer SciFi Futuristic series? It’s the best
Matthersby
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Guys!
Here’s what I’m thinking.
I’ve got so much NPP and it’s treating me really well, even in a deficit I’m staying strong and thick. So here’s where I’m at with my recomp:
Dienolone E: 500/week
NPP 300/week(6 week’s in, maybe go all the way to 16weeks)
Winnie 50-75/day 5 weeks
T3 moderate dose.
Here’s what I’m thinking.
I’ve got so much NPP and it’s treating me really well, even in a deficit I’m staying strong and thick. So here’s where I’m at with my recomp:
Dienolone E: 500/week
NPP 300/week(6 week’s in, maybe go all the way to 16weeks)
Winnie 50-75/day 5 weeks
T3 moderate dose.
CroLifter
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How is dienolone treating you so far compared to tren? Less sides?
edit: My bad, just saw that you are yet to run this. For some reason my mind constructed a scenario where you have already ran this stack.
mixedup
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mixedup
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That study cites a study, look in there or on Google for Petersson et al 2006. I guess I had it half right, we are more likely to die of homicide or suicide than amphetamine or heroin users
I could see that amphetamine and heroin users usually die from overdose.
There are alot of bodybuilders who aren't ok mental wise and could end committing suicide
The homicide part seems a little iffy but they can be intimidating or run with the wrong crowd
mixedup
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Just front load you will get there faster maybe not as fast as a short ether but definitely quicker than eth 2x a week
mixedup
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I'd go with the winny I've run 50 and 60mg of epi everyday and its was nothing like 50 of winnyTrest and ALL dht’s.️
I’m one of the lucky ones that feels so decent on Epi, that I can push dose to 60.
But Winnie seems like it’s calling me on this one.
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DaveyCrockett
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So here's the telling stat
.... The amphetamine/heroin users that died a violent death were usually in their mid 30s....the AAS users had a median age of 25. I can totally buy that, personally, because I'm in my late 30s and had trouble "controlling myself" when starting AAS. Me in my 20s would have been a real a$$h*le...
Matthersby
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Always. TRT. Right now playing with 750 alongside NPP. I’ll lower to 300
Matthersby
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Winnie doesn’t get the love it deserves. Why I don’t mess w Var much I like keeping size and strength and Winny does it all. Plus NPP will keep joints in check
Matthersby
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All good. I ran it last year not amazing but I’m wanting to try another lab and run it higher alongside other strong drugs. I’m betting NPP and Winnie will make the vascularity if it shine even better and it should be quite a bit better this way. Plus haven’t ran enanthate version yet either