Isn't it kind of funny how everyone pretty much has the same information when it comes to anabolics and yet everyone has so many different opinions. For example, when people comment on serms, some people say you need them, others don't. Even more so, people argue back and forth over the qualities of nolva and clomid. Personally, I have never used either for pct. Just OTC stuff. Mainly for lack of knowing where to find it and also not knowing what they were until I came to this forum. Basically, it's just what you prefer I think. Sort of trial and error but not really. People are suggesting the things they are suggesting for a reason. You can't sight research alone simply because research ends up almost contradicting itself. Or some people take research and make it say what they want. The best part is people getting all pissed when someone doesn't agree with them. It makes me chuckle. People don't like to be doubted and are somewhat close-minded because they don't like to feel like they are wrong. It's almost better to be new and come here and decipher the info for yourself. You are more open-minded