Ralox Gyno reversal protocol

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After failing with many OTC AI's I am going to take a stab at killing my pubertal Gyno with Ralox

What does the typical dosing protocol look like for this? ive seen a lot of different data on here ranging from 60 mg dosage to 120 mg dosage

some people report no sides while other report sides, also effects on calcium absorption

any info would be very helpful.
 
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ChocolateClen yates84 Maybe they can help you; look into getting some exemestane as well
 
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A lot of people will tell you if it's pubertal gyno you can't get rid of it, however I beg to differ as I have gotten rid of it with Ralox and Letro myself. Tho may I add, it came back; something I sum up to be because I didn't taper my letro right or follow it with aromasin to counter rebound correctly
 
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Start at 60mg ed and increase each week as sides permit up to 120mg.

Make sure to have an ai to bridge into.

I'd recommend letro starting at the second to last week of ralox, at 1/4 the dose. .625mg ed
 
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60mg+ till you're happy then taper off. Pubertal gyno tends to come back.
 
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Always follow a serm with an ai.
 

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I was told start at 120 then taper down. It worked a bit. Should've added letro, followed by an AI. As I gained BF%, it came back. I don't think it's as bad as at once was though (pubertal as well)
 

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Man 60mg for longer than a week would kill me joints, it really lowers your estrogen... I thought 30mg was the recommended for longer use
 
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Really? I've never had problems with serms and my joints as it's a "selective" estrogen receptor modulator and Ralox in general as the highest affinity for breast tissue, tho I may be wrong
 

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After failing with many OTC AI's I am going to take a stab at killing my pubertal Gyno with Ralox

What does the typical dosing protocol look like for this? ive seen a lot of different data on here ranging from 60 mg dosage to 120 mg dosage

some people report no sides while other report sides, also effects on calcium absorption

any info would be very helpful.
60 mg/day.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/post-cycle-therapy/288103-info-serms.html

^in that thread are the clinical dosing recommendations.
 
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Here you go, gyno reversal protocol at the end of the original post

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/276620-post-cycle-therapy.html
Gyno Reversal Protocol
Ralox - 120mg ed
Exemestane - 12.5mg eod
*One should follow this protocol until lumps have subsided. At which point the Ralox dose should be reduced to 60mg ed and continued for another 4 weeks, and exemestane should be continued at 12.5mg eod for another 6 weeks. Continuing the exemestane for 2 weeks after discontinuing the Ralox helps prevent rebound.

Hey man sorry to bump up this old post about to pull the trigger and order some chems.. just so i understand though..

I would be running the Ralox and Exemestane simultaneously? amd continue to run for another 2 weeks after stopping the ralox?
 
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Here you go, gyno reversal protocol at the end of the original post

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/276620-post-cycle-therapy.html

actually i think i got it

Let me know how this looks

Ralox: Every Day
120 MG Till Happy
Followed by 60 MG for 4 weeks

Exemstane: Every Other day
12.5 MG throughout follow for additional 2 weeks after Ralox

Example:

Ralox
120/120/120/60/60/60/60 (EVERY DAY)

Exemstane:
12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5 (Every other Day)
 

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actually i think i got it

Let me know how this looks

Ralox: Every Day
120 MG Till Happy
Followed by 60 MG for 4 weeks

Exemstane: Every Other day
12.5 MG throughout follow for additional 2 weeks after Ralox

Example:

Ralox
120/120/120/60/60/60/60 (EVERY DAY)

Exemstane:
12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5 (Every other Day)
do happen to have any bloodwork to show what your current E2 levels are?
 
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do happen to have any bloodwork to show what your current E2 levels are?
i do not, but i have talked to my doctor before who has confirmed that it is in fact gynocomastia . I talked with him about my options and he informed me surgery could range anywhere from 5-10k
 

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i do not, but i have talked to my doctor before who has confirmed that it is in fact gynocomastia . I talked with him about my options and he informed me surgery could range anywhere from 5-10k
okay. the reason I asked was not to confirm if you have gyno, but to see if your E2 levels are actually high right now. if you take an AI and they're not high, it's not really gonna do anything for you. and the ensuing low E2 crash is gonna suck....

I'd just run the ralox (60 mg/day) unless you get bloodwork or have other high E2 symptoms.
 
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okay. the reason I asked was not to confirm if you have gyno, but to see if your E2 levels are actually high right now. if you take an AI and they're not high, it's not really gonna do anything for you. and the ensuing low E2 crash is gonna suck....

I'd just run the ralox (60 mg/day) unless you get bloodwork or have other high E2 symptoms.
well im assuming it would be safe to have it on hand just to combat any (potential) rebound gyno
 
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well im assuming it would be safe to have it on hand just to combat any (potential) rebound gyno
Im wondering if u see my physician again and tell him that i want to explore other options (other then surgery) i will be tranparent with him about my intentions. If he would be willing to run bloods for me
 

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well im assuming it would be safe to have it on hand just to combat any (potential) rebound gyno
if your E2 is fine then you won't have rebound.

if your E2 is high, then you need to treat it.

just don't take something without having an actual need, tho....
 

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Im wondering if u see my physician again and tell him that i want to explore other options (other then surgery) i will be tranparent with him about my intentions. If he would be willing to run bloods for me
at the very least, I'd push for bloodwork.

ralox has very few sides, so if you chose to disclose that, it's up to you.
 
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Anyone with lumps run the gyno reversal procedure successfully?

Im considering to give it a try before accepting surgery as last option...
 
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Im wondering if u see my physician again and tell him that i want to explore other options (other then surgery) i will be tranparent with him about my intentions. If he would be willing to run bloods for me
Why not use PMD? Cheaper and faster than dealing with a doc and plus your privacy is kept.
 
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damn man just looked it up the test is like 300

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Please Note: If this panel is ordered by a female, due to ordering restrictions on certain tests, the PSA test will not be included on the requisition and will not be performed.
Our anabolic steroid test panel can be used as an initial screen to determine if anti-aging treatment with bioidentical hormone replacement is needed and to monitor safety during ongoing treatment.

The panel includes the following tests:

- Dihydrotestosterone (DHT)
- Complete Blood Count (CBC) w/ Differential
- Comprehensive Metabolic Profile (CMP) (includes eGFR)
- Prostate-Specific Antigen (PSA),
- Estradiol
- Testosterone (Free) , Serum (Equilibrium Ultrafiltration) With Total Testosterone
- Lipid Panel
- Insulin Growth Factor (IGF-1)
- Sex Hormone Binding Globulin, Serum

Significant deviations from the normal range may require further evaluation by your physician.

Note: If total testosterone levels are greater than the cutoff for this test (>1500), results for free testosterone and/or percent free testosterone may not be provided. If total testosterone results are expected to be >1500 it is best that the LC/MS-MS version of this test be ordered.

Includes:
- Dihydrotestosterone (DHT), serum
- Complete Blood Count (CBC) w/ Differential: Hematocrit; hemoglobin; mean corpuscular volume (MCV); mean corpuscular hemoglobin (MCH); mean corpuscular hemoglobin concentration (MCHC); red cell distribution width (RDW); percentage and absolute differential counts; platelet count; red cell count; white blood cell count
- Comprehensive Metabolic Profile (CMP) (includes eGFR): A:G ratio; albumin, serum; alkaline phosphatase, serum; ALT (SGPT); AST (SGOT); bilirubin, total; BUN; BUN:creatinine ratio; calcium, serum; carbon dioxide, total; chloride, serum; creatinine, serum; globulin, total; glucose, serum; potassium, serum; protein, total, serum; sodium, serum
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- Estradiol
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- Sex Hormone Binding Globulin
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Estimated turnaround for results is 7 business days. If confirmation testing is required, the estimated time may be extended.

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Also use the discount code ______ (search internet for current discount codes, can usually find a 15% off). Total should come to roughly 50 dollars.

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- Credit to user "heavydeadlifts" on PHF.

For $50 lousy bucks, you can get everything you'd want tested after a cycle (except lipids, which as mentioned can be added for $47.99 retail, before discounts): liver and kidney function, HPTA, estrogen, etc.

I have not used this service myself, unfortunately, as I live in NY. However, a well-known AM member has and will weigh in with his experience soon.

So no more excuses, no more guessing at problems during PCT, no more self-medicating without medical confirmation of an issue; if you are mature enough to cycle, then be mature enough to protect your health. :banana:
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double ****...
just confirmed it myself

Due to state laws, we cannot provide services for RESIDENTS of or in the states of NY, NJ, MA, MD or RI.
 
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Doing this Friday. Bought the FHP and going to a labcor an hour away. 50$ is way better than the 168$ my local lab wants. Finally a cheap way to do it
 
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double ****...
just confirmed it myself

Due to state laws, we cannot provide services for RESIDENTS of or in the states of NY, NJ, MA, MD or RI.
Surely there's a loophole bro. Private MD can't be the only one offering this particular service. Is it a company policy from PMD or is it actually state law?
 
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Maybe try Quest diagnostic. They are a massive chain and I have a local one here. A bit pricey but it might be an option
 
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Ralox killed my gyno at 120mg and tapering down to 60mg a day. Only took a couple months. Doesn't have any bad sides. I think it should be mandatory to have on hand for anyone's first cycle or blast. Far cheaper than gyno surgery. So ralox is doing a job 👍.
 

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