cubs1987
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probably similar to what I'll look to run later this yr
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probably similar to what I'll look to run later this yr
Hastur
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I've seen a few people here and on other boards talking about Russianstars Log, which is the only log of RAD140 I've found thus far, and since he went up to 30mg some have commented that they believe that to be the effective dosage. I personally don't think we can take one persons experience logging a research chemical of unknown purity and apply it to everyone though.
mixedup
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Russianstars was good trust that we've both been around this game 15 plus years his connects in this biz are gold
Honestly though regular people can't really go by him. We were hitting up 150mg dbol cycles and grams of test over a decade ago
TexasLifter89
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Once upon a time he used to post here frequently... wonder why he left here
mixedup
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I think we both left the net for a bit. And he resurfaced with another board as home
Hastur
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I'm not slamming the guy, or his source. I don't know him, and I've never used products from the company that he got his RAD140 from. So no disrespect intended, I assure you. I'm just saying, a single individuals experience never translates to a broad group of people. Considering his size, training history, and so on, I imagine what's effective for him dosage wise may not apply to a lot of less experienced individuals who will likely use the product. Again, no disrespect intended towards him.
mixedup
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None at all I said as much that regular people probably do not need no where near that amount to be effective.
Hastur
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Agreed. And I was just making sure my point was clear, I'm new here, low post count, and the last thing I want to do it burn any bridges or make a bad reputation for myself! I've enjoyed the bouncing back and forth of ideas on this forum thus far. Hopefully as logs begin within the next few weeks we'll have an idea of what dosing range is optimal for varying sizes, experience levels, and goals.
CJNator
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Not too much info but this is what sanmarino said "There are some infos about RAD140 on this forum. Just use the search-tool they are scattered 
The lack of info (on scientific basis) is because RAD140 is a pre-clinical drug. In comparison, Ostarine is four stages further and reached the last stage before launching on the market. It's only a matter of time or bad news which will the launch stop for a while or quit the researches in the worst case (referring to S-4).
But interestingly to mention (once again) is that RAD140 is tested as first SARM in connection with Testosterone Propionate. The animal study has shown that the anabolic effect of Testosterone + RAD140 were increased while the androgenic effect decreased. This is a very nice pathway work particularly for the patients.
The other SARM were not tested in this way.
But it will be like the other SARM: overrated. It won't give you "side effect free 20lbs lean mass in 2 weeks". The only thing which is interesting is the affection on the anabolic/androgenic effect in an Testosterone cycle.
But also on the other side: are you willing to take the risk to move the anabolic/androgenic ratio with an unknown substance? In fact, RAD140 have given in animal studies Testosterone an improved overall effect. But let's wait for more infos instead of dreaming about a "new compound which changes the whole bodybuilding scene" 
The lack of info (on scientific basis) is because RAD140 is a pre-clinical drug. In comparison, Ostarine is four stages further and reached the last stage before launching on the market. It's only a matter of time or bad news which will the launch stop for a while or quit the researches in the worst case (referring to S-4).
But interestingly to mention (once again) is that RAD140 is tested as first SARM in connection with Testosterone Propionate. The animal study has shown that the anabolic effect of Testosterone + RAD140 were increased while the androgenic effect decreased. This is a very nice pathway work particularly for the patients.
The other SARM were not tested in this way.
But it will be like the other SARM: overrated. It won't give you "side effect free 20lbs lean mass in 2 weeks". The only thing which is interesting is the affection on the anabolic/androgenic effect in an Testosterone cycle.
But also on the other side: are you willing to take the risk to move the anabolic/androgenic ratio with an unknown substance? In fact, RAD140 have given in animal studies Testosterone an improved overall effect. But let's wait for more infos instead of dreaming about a "new compound which changes the whole bodybuilding scene" 
mixedup
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No worries you're posts have been good imo
T-Bone
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I'm saving up some bottles to run it a high dosage when I have enough. I want to also wait to see someone else do it first though. I'm betting there will be with the "more is better" mentality around here. There really is no established dose yet so people are just guessing at this point. Who knows maybe 30-50mg will be the standard.....
Dma378
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X 2
mixedup
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When do you think you will be running yours
Dma378
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I don't know, I think just for the cost to run it that high it will not be the norm. That's why I'll just be running as recommended by OL.
Yet I am pleasantly surprised to hear you want to run it high, leaving behind your man of moderation on this one
ZackD89
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Saw a post on reddit where a guy posted labs that showed Radarine caused more Test suppression than LGD. Seems like everyone here is planning on using a Test base, but I thought the info bore repeating anyway.
The reddit post is at reddit.com/r/PEDs/comments/3cxi76/rad_140_trial_run_bloodwork/
In case you don't feel like going there, here's a quick summary of the Testosterone levels the guy posted:
1 month pre-RAD: 726
1 week into RAD (5 mg EOD): 189
2 weeks into RAD (5 mg EOD): 175
he ended the cycle then BC his test was too low for his taste
Post-2 week Toremifene-based PCT: 975
EDIT: Corrected redditor's info from ED to EOD
The reddit post is at reddit.com/r/PEDs/comments/3cxi76/rad_140_trial_run_bloodwork/
In case you don't feel like going there, here's a quick summary of the Testosterone levels the guy posted:
1 month pre-RAD: 726
1 week into RAD (5 mg EOD): 189
2 weeks into RAD (5 mg EOD): 175
he ended the cycle then BC his test was too low for his taste
Post-2 week Toremifene-based PCT: 975
EDIT: Corrected redditor's info from ED to EOD
Dma378
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ZackD89
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Anytime!
Not at all, given that you have real T to use with it! The suppression makes it seem like it's in the right ballpark for sure. Looking forward to see your log!
sanmarino
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Wrote some words about RAD140. Unfortunately, the posts are scattered in the whole forum (because different questions in different threads). Please, use the search function.
I can only repeat myself: if someone wants to test this preclinical drug DO bloods! In first line it's monitoring for your bod stats and also very helpful for the bodybuilding community. Good luck to all of you, you will need it.
yates84
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Super quick recovery! That is good news
CJNator
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Ill try to find them and throw the quotes up on here!
T-Bone
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After I get enough bottles to run it at 30-50mg....Don't have the cash to buy them all at once, just a bottle here and there. So it'll be a while. Who knows?, they may even change the dosage per cap by then. I'd say late November early December at the earliest.
mixedup
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Oh I'll be able to give you some feedback before then
T-Bone
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Excellent. Looking forward to hearing about it.
mixedup
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I ordered 4 bottles I'm gonna do some high dose blasts in between contests
Hastur
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I'm glad you found this gem, I hadn't seen it yet. his exact words:
1 month prior (most recent pre-trial bloods):
Test: 726
LH: 6.6
FSH: 3.4
Estrodiol: 32.1
Week 1: 5mg RAD140 eod
Test: 189
LH: 5.7
FSH: 1.8
Estro: 12.1
If his Test went from 726 to 189 in just 7 days from taking 5mg RAD-140 every other day, that's what, only 4 dosages? Tops? I think it's safe to say that with the protocol being recommended of 4/4/8/8/12/12 of DAILY dosing for a length of SIX weeks is definitely going to be suppressive to the point where you would require both a Test Base during the cycle and a true PCT consisting of a SERM & AI, not an OTC PCT supplement. I'm not really surprised, we all know that SARMS like any PH/DS/AAS is suppressive. And it's good to have this knowledge sooner rather than later. I suppose I better modify my cycle plan accordingly. Need to grab a Test Base, some Toremifene and some Exemestane.
Hastur
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I suppose he was just testing it's suppressive properties? I can't speak for the guy, but considering he got blood work a month before starting, then one week into the cycle, then two weeks into the cycle, it seems like he was just trying to establish it's effects. I don't plan on running it at 5mg EOD for just 2 weeks... But I am glad his research gave us a heads up on needing a test base and a legit PCT. For what it's worth, he claims to have gained 3lbs from his 2 week cycle of RAD-140 dosed at just 5mg EOD...
T-Bone
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Well I am grateful to anyone who provides blood work like he did. He did the blood work correctly. Many people don't and only do post cycle blood work.
T-Bone
Banned
Well RussianStar likely has a lot more experience. Either that or people are really WAY OFF on the dosage requirement for this product.
T-Bone
Banned
I'm hoping in the next few months when people start running this more dosage will be more conclusive. If it needs to be run higher than OL said they would increase the dosage per cap. I've been around long enough to see this happen with a few products. People start off taking a smaller dosage and not getting much. Fast forward 3-4 months later and people are running 5 times what they thought was the normal dosage at first.
mixedup
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Russianstar juices in my range anone who can run 150mg dbol a day is gonna need more than 5mg eod unless it's checqe drops or something like that
T-Bone
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That explains it then. Well, maybe. Mixedup, are you gonna be running yours solo or just with a test base?.
mixedup
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Test I never come off but I'll be doing the blast just test and rad. Probably like 36mg ed for 3 weeks. Russianstar mentioned he would like to run this type of blast because very short half life
Dma378
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Can do that with just food. Come on now, you know that's unanswerable in regards to a compound.
15lbs. of lbm nearly impossible in that time with Deca or Anadrol. So I would say No
Hastur
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I wondered if perhaps the 3lbs reported by the Reddit user wasn't just water weight or something, he gave no proof or indication it was muscle mass. No pictures, no measurements, no stats. With just 5mg EOD for 2 weeks, 3lbs seems like a bit much to me. Perhaps I'm wrong. I hope I am. I'd love for it to just throw on the muscle. We still need more data.
mixedup
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I wasn't really thinking that dma you know me better than that. I was just multiplying the 3lb gain at 5mg by 5 times since I'll run at least 5x the amount lol
If I put on 15lbs I'd be 5ft 1 190lbs in the off season lol
Dma378
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Hastur
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Amongst other receptor binding affinity, such as progesterone receptors. But I believe the better a compound binds to the androgen receptor, the more suppressive it tends to be. Such is the case with Tren and Trest, which bind extremely well and are extremely suppressive. But they bind to other receptors as well, further increasing suppression. Again, this is my understanding of it. Anyone else want to chime in here?
ZackD89
Member
Oh ****, it was EOD. Thanks for quoting him and correcting me. RAD is sounding even more beastly! I have a bottle coming, but don't know about running it without real Test. Closest I have is 4-Andro.