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R4J- The 1, dermafury, sust400, test prop, t3, tren ace.

reps4jesus said:
FINAL REVIEW of THE 1.
Im gonna hit you guys with my honest feedback and thoughts on the product.
Ill be reviewing it in a few different areas.

Physical sides
Mental sides
Mass gain
Strength gain
Libido
How effective for cutting
How effective for bulking
Fat loss
Overall

Physical sides-joints hurt like a bitch, had to stop dosing my ai. Obvious decreased appitite at high doses.

Mental sides-aggressiveness which is good.

Mass gain-it doesnt shine in this area. Im growing because im eating. I gained around 7 pounds in the short time I was on this. Keeps you lean while gaining.

Strength-not training for strength but all my lifts have gone up significantly.


Libido-crazy. Lol. It shines here.

How effective for cutting-very. This is its use imo. The first part of the cycle I was still in a cutting phase and wow it Drys you out. Almost to much. Its a good compound for cutting.

How effective for bulking-there are Bette options, it will keep you lean while bulking if that is your desire.

Fat loss-im up in weight but obviosuly leaner.


Overal-7.8/10- its a great cutter, not much of a mass compound, but an overall feel good conpound. Hard on the joints though.

Final thoughts-thanks olymous. I like this compound and its a hell of a kicker to my long cycle.

I will run this again at some point. Already have another bottle I bought from a buddy.

Feel free to ask questions about the compound.
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Hey this still sounds like a good possible 'test base' (tho not test). My question- how toxic is methyl dht? Im assuming more than stano. How does it compare to stano and trest, as a base, in your opinion?
I'm looking for the best base I can find for a methylated oral run in the future but obviously don't need anything hepatoxic. Thanks for the good, honest review!
 
reps4jesus said:
FINAL REVIEW of THE 1. Im gonna hit you guys with my honest feedback and thoughts on the product. Ill be reviewing it in a few different areas. Physical sides Mental sides Mass gain Strength gain Libido How effective for cutting How effective for bulking Fat loss Overall Physical sides-joints hurt like a bitch, had to stop dosing my ai. Obvious decreased appitite at high doses. Mental sides-aggressiveness which is good. Mass gain-it doesnt shine in this area. Im growing because im eating. I gained around 7 pounds in the short time I was on this. Keeps you lean while gaining. Strength-not training for strength but all my lifts have gone up significantly. Libido-crazy. Lol. It shines here. How effective for cutting-very. This is its use imo. The first part of the cycle I was still in a cutting phase and wow it Drys you out. Almost to much. Its a good compound for cutting. How effective for bulking-there are Bette options, it will keep you lean while bulking if that is your desire. Fat loss-im up in weight but obviosuly leaner. Overal-7.8/10- its a great cutter, not much of a mass compound, but an overall feel good conpound. Hard on the joints though. Final thoughts-thanks olymous. I like this compound and its a hell of a kicker to my long cycle. I will run this again at some point. Already have another bottle I bought from a buddy. Feel free to ask questions about the compound.
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Nice update brotha
 
Great honest review!!
 
Awesome review. Exactly what was expected as far as gains vs dry/hardness. Looks like a great cutter for sure.
 
reps4jesus said:
FINAL REVIEW of THE 1.
Im gonna hit you guys with my honest feedback and thoughts on the product.
Ill be reviewing it in a few different areas.

Physical sides
Mental sides
Mass gain
Strength gain
Libido
How effective for cutting
How effective for bulking
Fat loss
Overall

Physical sides-joints hurt like a bitch, had to stop dosing my ai. Obvious decreased appitite at high doses.

Mental sides-aggressiveness which is good.

Mass gain-it doesnt shine in this area. Im growing because im eating. I gained around 7 pounds in the short time I was on this. Keeps you lean while gaining.

Strength-not training for strength but all my lifts have gone up significantly.


Libido-crazy. Lol. It shines here.

How effective for cutting-very. This is its use imo. The first part of the cycle I was still in a cutting phase and wow it Drys you out. Almost to much. Its a good compound for cutting.

How effective for bulking-there are Bette options, it will keep you lean while bulking if that is your desire.

Fat loss-im up in weight but obviosuly leaner.


Overal-7.8/10- its a great cutter, not much of a mass compound, but an overall feel good conpound. Hard on the joints though.

Final thoughts-thanks olymous. I like this compound and its a hell of a kicker to my long cycle.

I will run this again at some point. Already have another bottle I bought from a buddy.

Feel free to ask questions about the compound.
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Good review. What do you think of running it with DMZ? I know, I know Tr3st is the best for size and gains. But I want to keep it dry and lean. Would you recommend?
 
Thank you guys. To those of you asking if it would be a good "test base". My answer to you is this, TEST WOULD BE A GOOD TEST BASE. but, if you want to stick to good ol orals, sure. But its important to remember its another methyl.
I think that this pared with something else dry like dmz would be a mistake, your joints would give you hell especially with the amount of weight you'd want to move on dmz.
I think paring it with something wet would be a win.
 
reps4jesus said:
Thank you guys. To those of you asking if it would be a good "test base". My answer to you is this, TEST WOULD BE A GOOD TEST BASE. but, if you want to stick to good ol orals, sure. But its important to remember its another methyl.
I think that this pared with something else dry like dmz would be a mistake, your joints would give you hell especially with the amount of weight you'd want to move on dmz.
I think paring it with something wet would be a win.
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Thanks man, maybe one day I'll be able to get test as easily as this. I appreciate your answering questions- not all do. Be well.
 
Thanks for the review and log, R4J! And, thanks for the honesty!
 
In late
 
Not gonna lie, I kind of hoped derma would help with the cardio sides of tren but no...its not. Lol
So im adding in albuterol
 
reps4jesus said:
I do a lot man, so I dont think that'd my issue. Its just hard to breath when running and stuff. I already have issues with breathing anyway. Just shows more on tren.
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Ya I hear you. I had the same but I felt like it never got worse once I upped my cardio. The hard part was the shin/calf pumps for me
 
booneman77 said:
Ya I hear you. I had the same but I felt like it never got worse once I upped my cardio. The hard part was the shin/calf pumps for me
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Great lol I already have pretty beastly back pumps and joint pain on derma, I had to cut out my ai.
 
Do you guys think I should run test higher than tren? Lower? Or the same? Im thinking ill keep test high, im interested to see what all the hype is about lol
 
reps4jesus said:
Do you guys think I should run test higher than tren? Lower? Or the same? Im thinking ill keep test high, im interested to see what all the hype is about lol
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I ran mine VERY Low both times. 125-150mg/wk of prop. I had almost zero sides; no trensomnia, pumps only weeks 4-6, night sweats not until wk 5-6, no joint issues.
 
booneman77 said:
I ran mine VERY Low both times. 125-150mg/wk of prop. I had almost zero sides; no trensomnia, pumps only weeks 4-6, night sweats not until wk 5-6, no joint issues.
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Nice ill try high and let you guys know how its going. 500mg test.im gonna stay on as long as i can take it most likely. I never stick to set doses on harsh compounds though, I adjust to how my body feels.
 
reps4jesus said:
Do you guys think I should run test higher than tren? Lower? Or the same? Im thinking ill keep test high, im interested to see what all the hype is about lol
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reps4jesus said:
Nice ill try high and let you guys know how its going. 500mg test.im gonna stay on as long as i can take it most likely. I never stick to set doses on harsh compounds though, I adjust to how my body feels.
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reps4jesus said:
Great man. Hope you enjoy. Iv been doing my best with a busy schedual. Insane is a better word actually. Lol
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I feel you on the schedule man. Been a bit slammed my self. With a few injuries on top it was no bueno.

Test can be run higher lower or 1:1. Honestly I feel like if you want more size test stays high. I've run 600 test. 300 tren and that was interesting. Sides were intense. I was using enanthate though. Ace doesn't seem to bother me as much but I've never run it with higher test. I may actually do that now... Pinning cyp @250 eod and eq @ 300 eod maybe a splash of tren would be interesting. Or painful idk. Damnit this logs got me wanting to use up my tren.
 
reps4jesus said:
FINAL REVIEW of THE 1.
Im gonna hit you guys with my honest feedback and thoughts on the product.
Ill be reviewing it in a few different areas.

Physical sides
Mental sides
Mass gain
Strength gain
Libido
How effective for cutting
How effective for bulking
Fat loss
Overall

Physical sides-joints hurt like a bitch, had to stop dosing my ai. Obvious decreased appitite at high doses.

Mental sides-aggressiveness which is good.

Mass gain-it doesnt shine in this area. Im growing because im eating. I gained around 7 pounds in the short time I was on this. Keeps you lean while gaining.

Strength-not training for strength but all my lifts have gone up significantly.

Libido-crazy. Lol. It shines here.

How effective for cutting-very. This is its use imo. The first part of the cycle I was still in a cutting phase and wow it Drys you out. Almost to much. Its a good compound for cutting.

How effective for bulking-there are Bette options, it will keep you lean while bulking if that is your desire.

Fat loss-im up in weight but obviosuly leaner.

Overal-7.8/10- its a great cutter, not much of a mass compound, but an overall feel good conpound. Hard on the joints though.

Final thoughts-thanks olymous. I like this compound and its a hell of a kicker to my long cycle.

I will run this again at some point. Already have another bottle I bought from a buddy.

Feel free to ask questions about the compound.
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Nice and detailed review of the 1.

Definitely a cutting agent.
 
superbeast668 said:
I feel you on the schedule man. Been a bit slammed my self. With a few injuries on top it was no bueno.

Test can be run higher lower or 1:1. Honestly I feel like if you want more size test stays high. I've run 600 test. 300 tren and that was interesting. Sides were intense. I was using enanthate though. Ace doesn't seem to bother me as much but I've never run it with higher test. I may actually do that now... Pinning cyp @250 eod and eq @ 300 eod maybe a splash of tren would be interesting. Or painful idk. Damnit this logs got me wanting to use up my tren.
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Well im doing tren e for the long haul and just using tren a till its gone. Ill probably stay where I am with test and see how it goes.
Throw some tren in there man, never hurts ;)
I would probably lean towards 500-700mg tren and 250mg test if I could handle it.
 
Joints REALLY hurt on derma. But I may have to dose my ai again due to the test. Fml
 
edje007 said:
Interesting to see how it works out. If it's like winny it's not that odd that your joints hurt.
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Yeah, if it gets to the point its counterproductive I'll drop the dose drastically. It seems like it may be there soon.
Or ill add something wet.
 
Ok guys, 2 questions for the guys that are smarter than me, or just happen to know this lol
Is hgh suppressive to natty test?
Is tren hard on liver and kidneys? Iv heard both ways on both of these questions and im playing it safe on tren.
 
reps4jesus said:
Ok guys, 2 questions for the guys that are smarter than me, or just happen to know this lol Is hgh suppressive to natty test? Is tren hard on liver and kidneys? Iv heard both ways on both of these questions and im playing it safe on tren.
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Hgh should have no impact on test. As for tren I've heard both sides as well but people usually confuse the fact that it can change your urine color with it having a negative effect on your kidneys. It's not actually processed in the kidneys but the metabolites can get into the urine and discolor it. Liver should be the same. It shouldn't have to be processed at all by the organs and shouldn't have any more negative impact then any other im steroid.

That said I always run some supports just to be safe. It can't hurt to throw some cheap cycle support in anyways.
 
booneman77 said:
Hgh should have no impact on test. As for tren I've heard both sides as well but people usually confuse the fact that it can change your urine color with it having a negative effect on your kidneys. It's not actually processed in the kidneys but the metabolites can get into the urine and discolor it. Liver should be the same. It shouldn't have to be processed at all by the organs and shouldn't have any more negative impact then any other im steroid. That said I always run some supports just to be safe. It can't hurt to throw some cheap cycle support in anyways.
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This may be a dumb question to, but idk...

So hgh can be ran in pct then?
 
You guys are great thanks. Im going to be using hgh starting soon and then through pct and past it. Im working hard for these gains and want to keep them. And thanks for the tren info. Ill use cel pct assist and liv 52. My favorite support cocktail. Lol
 
reps4jesus said:
You guys are great thanks. Im going to be using hgh starting soon and then through pct and past it. Im working hard for these gains and want to keep them. And thanks for the tren info. Ill use cel pct assist and liv 52. My favorite support cocktail. Lol
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I'd swap assist for lgi's formula with TUDCA since at there's studies showing TUDCA could help with cholesterol. Hyde is the one who made me aware of these studies maybe he'll chime.
 
superbeast668 said:
I'd swap assist for lgi's formula with TUDCA since at there's studies showing TUDCA could help with cholesterol. Hyde is the one who made me aware of these studies maybe he'll chime.
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OLs has TUDCA as well and they're always having sales on like the whole line ha
 
Tudca a must have
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Thank me later
 
Im good guys but thanks. I keep it old school besides those two products I like. I just dont run orals a super long time.
I used to leave out cycle support all together. And I used to only use a serm in pct. Others are support supps. Water is best support. Imo
 
What dosing should I use for hgh? Im thinking 4ius monday wednesday and friday for 6-12months
 
superbeast668 said:
Depends on what you're getting... You getting legit pharma or Chinese?

Definitely dose ed. Split doses are better at higher amounts
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Pharma. What dose ed for a first timer? Not worried about sides. Cant be worse than tren lol I want to keep cost down a bit if possible. Whats a cost effective way I guess im asking.
 
reps4jesus said:
Pharma. What dose ed for a first timer? Not worried about sides. Cant be worse than tren lol I want to keep cost down a bit if possible. Whats a cost effective way I guess im asking.
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How old are you? I'm personally looking at a mere 2ius of pharma. Some is better than none and from what I understand it's beneficial past 30 years old.
 
superbeast668 said:
How old are you? I'm personally looking at a mere 2ius of pharma. Some is better than none and from what I understand it's beneficial past 30 years old.
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In mid 20s I like that idea. Ill go for 2 ius ed and see how it goes. Is an iu a cc? Orr? Lol whats the solvent I need to get to put in there?
 
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That's a standard (used) 1ml slin pin. Each tick is an iu. Each number is 10. If you have to reconstitute your gh you'd use bacteriostatic water typically. It's usually water with a small % of alcohol. If each vial of gh is 10iu you'd fill your slin pin to the 10 line. Each hash would be 1iu. I think you can figure out the rest I may have over explained it lmao.
 
reps4jesus said:
What dosing should I use for hgh? Im thinking 4ius monday wednesday and friday for 6-12months
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Aight, I'm only gonna say this once so listen up.

GH should always follow GHRP/GHRH shots by about 10 minutes. This allows the body to have enormous amounts of GH in the system while not registering exogenous GH at all. It just dumped a bunch from the pituitary and ur GH shot a few minutes after comes along for the ride. Works like a charm. If u just run GH alone, ur body will build up insulin resistance, suppress natural GH excretion and build up resistance to the GH itself, rendering it less useful after a while.

I'd only do 2-3iu GH shots and do them ED with GHRP/GHRH.

I'd also join Datbtrue's website and use his sources for the GHS peps. They are clinical grade. They don't sell stuff on peptide websites.
 
superbeast668 said:
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That's a standard (used) 1ml slin pin. Each tick is an iu. Each number is 10. If you have to reconstitute your gh you'd use bacteriostatic water typically. It's usually water with a small % of alcohol. If each vial of gh is 10iu you'd fill your slin pin to the 10 line. Each hash would be 1iu. I think you can figure out the rest I may have over explained it lmao.
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fueledpassion said:
Aight, I'm only gonna say this once so listen up.

GH should always follow GHRP/GHRH shots by about 10 minutes. This allows the body to have enormous amounts of GH in the system while not registering exogenous GH at all. It just dumped a bunch from the pituitary and ur GH shot a few minutes after comes along for the ride. Works like a charm. If u just run GH alone, ur body will build up insulin resistance, suppress natural GH excretion and build up resistance to the GH itself, rendering it less useful after a while.

I'd only do 2-3iu GH shots and do them ED with GHRP/GHRH.

I'd also join Datbtrue's website and use his sources for the GHS peps. They are clinical grade. They don't sell stuff on peptide websites.
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Great, I appriticated it guys. This makes perfect sense. Everything else should be easily found on Google.
 
reps4jesus said:
Ok guys, 2 questions for the guys that are smarter than me, or just happen to know this lol
Is hgh suppressive to natty test?
Is tren hard on liver and kidneys? Iv heard both ways on both of these questions and im playing it safe on tren.
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HGH is suppressive to natural HGH production. Won't affect test, it's not an androgen.

There aren't long term tren trials in large human groups, so it's hard to say. Based on anecdotal evidence and what I've heard from some smart people, it can be taxing for both, but it's no superdrol
 
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