Quick Syringe loading question (Drawing Two compounds)

[Lean1038]

I was just curious about this and was hoping that you guys could clear things up for me...

Scenario: When loading two compounds into a single syringe (For example Tren A/Prop or Test C/EQ)

I understand that loading an empty syringe with air of the same amount you intend to draw and then injecting that air into the vial before you draw the compound helps form a vacuum and makes drawing easier, but what's the procedure for the second vial once the first compound is loaded?

Are you able to draw more air into the loaded syringe on top of the compound and repeat the process?

Wouldn't this build a pocket of air between the two compounds in the syringe?

Maybe you can push that air to the top and eject it before pinning?

Is injecting air into the second vial even necessary?

Thanks a lot guys.

 

[mooch2321]

well...you dont really need to blow air into the vial but it makes it easier thats for sure....what i do is draw your first compound normally then draw back on the syringe so you get a bubble on top then push that into your second vial....be very careful not to inject some of your first compound into the second vial....sometimes you will get a big bubble in with your final mix...you can either tap it out or just pin it...the air bubble helps seal the bolus...

 

[Lean1038]

well...you dont really need to blow air into the vial but it makes it easier thats for sure....what i do is draw your first compound normally then draw back on the syringe so you get a bubble on top then push that into your second vial....be very careful not to inject some of your first compound into the second vial....sometimes you will get a big bubble in with your final mix...you can either tap it out or just pin it...the air bubble helps seal the bolus...

Ok I see... so having air in the finally loaded syringe isn't a problem and can just be tapped to the top and pushed out prior to injection.

I just have to be careful not to push any of the first compound into the vial of the second as you've stated.

Great, thanks a lot.

 

[small_guy]

1. I would swab both tops and then inject just air into 1st bottle, and then inject the rest of the air into the 2nd bottle and draw the amount of hormone volume equal to the loaded air.

2. Then move to the original bottle(the one you preloaded with air) and take again the amount of hormone volume equal to the loaded air.

3. Take needle out and draw it back 1/2 cc or more and change pins-beter not to use the same pin. Once the new pin is in place just plunge out the empty air in the barrel and you are all set.

 

[repmks]

my method is kind of weird. but this is what i do . i preload one syringe with compound 1. then i just draw the desired amount of compound 2 into the second syringe. unscrew the pin and drip x amount into the second syringe from the preloaded one.

 

[mooch2321]

my method is kind of weird. but this is what i do . i preload one syringe with compound 1. then i just draw the desired amount of compound 2 into the second syringe. unscrew the pin and drip x amount into the second syringe from the preloaded one.

doesnt seem very sterile

 

[repmks]

doesnt seem very sterile

i agree its not as sterile as using a new syringe to preload every time. but i dont see how its any less sterile than reusing anything with a rubber stopper.

 

[mooch2321]

i agree its not as sterile as using a new syringe to preload every time. but i dont see how its any less sterile than reusing anything with a rubber stopper.

your exposing the gear to all the dust and contaminants in the air....ever go into a dark room with the sun shining through a window and you can see all the dust particles....all that sh!t is now in your gear....

 

[SoCo4Fun]

1. I would swab both tops and then inject just air into 1st bottle, and then inject the rest of the air into the 2nd bottle and draw the amount of hormone volume equal to the loaded air.

2. Then move to the original bottle(the one you preloaded with air) and take again the amount of hormone volume equal to the loaded air.

3. Take needle out and draw it back 1/2 cc or more and change pins-beter not to use the same pin. Once the new pin is in place just plunge out the empty air in the barrel and you are all set.

This is one more poke through a plunger than you need. It is just another chance to dull the needle.

I do it the same way as mooch.

 

[dsade]

Just alternate which vial you draw from FIRST, and inject air to normalize from the last draw.

Unless you are pulling more than 1.5cc each then the vacuum effect will be minimal anyway.

 

[crazyfool405]

i draw from one, then i just put the needle into the other vial and continue to draw, its VERY smooth that way,

i only push air into one vial (the first one) and i dont even feel that its that neccessary because it pulls back nice with an 18g needle.

 

[repmks]

your exposing the gear to all the dust and contaminants in the air....ever go into a dark room with the sun shining through a window and you can see all the dust particles....all that sh!t is now in your gear....

yea im using amps anyway so i guess **** gets in my gear regardless. if you re using 2 vials may not be the best idea.

 

[Lean1038]

i draw from one, then i just put the needle into the other vial and continue to draw, its VERY smooth that way,

i only push air into one vial (the first one) and i dont even feel that its that neccessary because it pulls back nice with an 18g needle.

Interesting... I'll be using a 20G to draw.

.8cc of each compound M W F.

 

[small_guy]

This is one more poke through a plunger than you need. It is just another chance to dull the needle.

I do it the same way as mooch.

Dulling a needle that you are not putting into your body makes no difference, and the stopper for a 10cc - 20 cc vial can easily handle the pokes.