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fanzdslpwr

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Hey Pat a number of months ago in MD mag you said that you felt for andropause an AI (like 60X0)would be better than testosterone therapy for the long term. Do you still feel that way? Or do you feel now that a DAA product is a better choice?
 
fanzdslpwr said:
Hey Pat a number of months ago in MD mag you said that you felt for andropause an AI (like 60X0)would be better than testosterone therapy for the long term. Do you still feel that way? Or do you feel now that a DAA product is a better choice?
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DAA and/or an AI are better choices if the dysfunction is the whole HPTA and not just the testicles. Its alot better i think to get your own axis working normally than shutting it down further with exogenous hormone
 
so do you think that someone could switch back and forth between an AI and DAA instead of using hormone replacement therapy? I stopped therapy a n umber of years ago because the docs are a pain in the ass and aren't consistent with injections to establish a baseline with bloodwork and I hate the androgel.
 
fanzdslpwr said:
so do you think that someone could switch back and forth between an AI and DAA instead of using hormone replacement therapy? I stopped therapy a n umber of years ago because the docs are a pain in the ass and aren't consistent with injections to establish a baseline with bloodwork and I hate the androgel.
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why not take the AI and DAA together?

The only way to find out if it will work for you or anyone else is by trying it and getting blood work

I would try the DAA first by itself. If an AI needs to be added be sure to use the smallest dose possible to elevate testosterone without lowering estrogen too much
 
Patrick Arnold said:
why not take the AI and DAA together?

The only way to find out if it will work for you or anyone else is by trying it and getting blood work

I would try the DAA first by itself. If an AI needs to be added be sure to use the smallest dose possible to elevate testosterone without lowering estrogen too much
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Pat,

I saw on another forum that you said coupling an anti-aromatase and SHBG reducer with TestForce 2 would intensify the LH/FSH boost. I looked into a few different products and while I know App Nut Free Test isn't your product it has both those qualities. Would taking the full dose of the AI Free Test (2 caps twice daily) actually hinder the results of TestForce?
 
smoothballer said:
Pat,

I saw on another forum that you said coupling an anti-aromatase and SHBG reducer with TestForce 2 would intensify the LH/FSH boost. I looked into a few different products and while I know App Nut Free Test isn't your product it has both those qualities. Would taking the full dose of the AI Free Test (2 caps twice daily) actually hinder the results of TestForce?
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As far as the testosterone boosting effects it should increase it if anything
 
Patrick Arnold said:
As far as the testosterone boosting effects it should increase it if anything
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But do you believe by taking the full dose coupled with TF would lower my estrogen too much to hinder my gains. I want to get the most out of what I am doing I highly value your expert opinion. Thanks in advance.
 
smoothballer said:
But do you believe by taking the full dose coupled with TF would lower my estrogen too much to hinder my gains. I want to get the most out of what I am doing I highly value your expert opinion. Thanks in advance.
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That I dont know. YOu would need to do blood tests
 
PA I have a question as well. What are your thoughts on mega dosing bcaa like scivation recommends? Would a gear user benefit from the mega dosing on a bulk?
 
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