Question about the actual compound in Methoxy-Trn
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3clipseGT
On my grind
Siznoyton said:
One step away from Cheque drops in what aspect? Toxicity? Strong , fast acting compound? Strength increases are crazy, toxicity is lesser then SD or M1T. So if ur linking cheque drops and M-tren togethor for toxicity, ur wrong my friend. Not being blatant or an ass, just saying. Now if its about strength, ive never tried cheque drops, but for strength, wow is all i can say for M-tren. Great great stuff!
snakebyte05
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3clipse are you basing the toxity off of ryansm's bloodwork? Just wondering if it is all based on his or if there are others blood work as well.
3clipseGT
On my grind
snakebyte05 said:
For the most part. I mean i ran it as well. I didnt have bloodwork done and i ran it for about 9 days. But to be honest, i felt MUCH MUCH better on this compound then SD OR M1T. I have 3 SD cycles under my belt and each of them was horrible honestly. Always aggitated , back pumped, nutts gone, and headaches. Same exact thing with M1T. Noe M-Tren was different. I felt good, pumped, and strong.
Siznoyton
Active member
3clipseGT said:
The question was "stronger," and that's what I replied about.
As Klaus mentioned, it is indeed stronger.
In terms of active dosing for major strength gains, it is one step from Cheque Drops. Is there anything else oral that is so potent? I wasn't making any claims about toxicity. The Methoxy group is very different than the methyl group on methyl-trn.
IMO, M1T is more like a shitty D-Bol crossed with Halo (not chemically, of course), whereas M-TRN is like Miberlone without the toxicity.
I have 3 bottles of MTRN, and look forward to it with 4AD or test base trans. Only thing I pin is HCG.
Someone should start a thread about M-TRN, the way we have a "Superdrol Primer" thread, etc., to compile user data.
3clipseGT
On my grind
Siznoyton said:
My apologies bro, i hope you dont think i was being an ass. You are so right about it being a very strong compound in term of strength gains. Crazyness is what i relate it to. I was cutting and it was just blowing my mind. Like i said though my apologies.
Klaus after i re-read it i understood what you were saying. Very knowledgeable bro and im glad to have you aboard AM!
ChildrenX
New member
Posted this at a forum and bigcat replied with his thoughts
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Bigcat
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"You heard that from a Methoxy-TRN ad didn't you ? Yeah, its about a 2000 times stronger progestin".
"No seriously, if you want to bone up on this in a little more scientific way, I can recommend two studies by Ojasoo and Raynaud, "Unique congeners for receptor studies" and 'Correspondence factor analysis of steroid libraries".
"It's a relatively weak androgen since it has no free 17b-oH group, that group is covered by a methyl group, yielding the aforementioned 17b-methoxy group.
Now, you may or may not know that 4,9,11 trien steroids are very ambiguous ligands. The 17b-OH's of that group are strong androgens, but even stronger progestins. By changing the 17b-OH to 17b-methoxy, you drastically increase progestagenic potency and specificity.
To make a long story short, this stuff is an extremely potent progestin, with very low anabolic activity. I'd sincerely recommend staying away from it. It should make for a great contraceptive though".
That was his thoughts
I was under the impression that it was 2000X stronger than MethylTest and will give you the best gains with proper diet evn better than M1T.
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Bigcat
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"You heard that from a Methoxy-TRN ad didn't you ? Yeah, its about a 2000 times stronger progestin".
"No seriously, if you want to bone up on this in a little more scientific way, I can recommend two studies by Ojasoo and Raynaud, "Unique congeners for receptor studies" and 'Correspondence factor analysis of steroid libraries".
"It's a relatively weak androgen since it has no free 17b-oH group, that group is covered by a methyl group, yielding the aforementioned 17b-methoxy group.
Now, you may or may not know that 4,9,11 trien steroids are very ambiguous ligands. The 17b-OH's of that group are strong androgens, but even stronger progestins. By changing the 17b-OH to 17b-methoxy, you drastically increase progestagenic potency and specificity.
To make a long story short, this stuff is an extremely potent progestin, with very low anabolic activity. I'd sincerely recommend staying away from it. It should make for a great contraceptive though".
That was his thoughts
I was under the impression that it was 2000X stronger than MethylTest and will give you the best gains with proper diet evn better than M1T.
aspire210
Registered User
3clipseGT said:
Big Cat also has been wrong quite a few times. Hes an intelligent man, but makes very public mistakes. If anyone remembers the Big Cat vs PA on bb.com, where big cat called out some major source as a fake and it turned out big cat was mistaken. Recently big cat called out alot of major companies talking about how they need to reveal what is in their products. Designer supplements was one of these companies. He was then handed his ass as he tried to cover it up by editing posts when the companies pointed out that the ingrediants were on their websites. Intelligent man, just has made a few big mistakes.