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Do I understand correctly that it is essentially a better version of Dermacrine? Also, is 1-DHEA a regular DHEA? Thanks
 
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This product is 1 andro and dermacrine combined. 1 dhea becomes 1 testosterone after metabolization. It looks like a good product to me.
 
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Do I understand correctly that it is essentially a better version of Dermacrine? Also, is 1-DHEA a regular DHEA? Thanks
no, there is very little comparison between dermacrine and icon one---dermacrine has a conversion to testosterone--icon one has a conversion to 1-testosterone. although it sounds like testosterone and 1-testosterone would be similar they actually have little similarity.
 
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1-DHEA is a great lean mass builder, but many users suffer some pretty significant lethargy and drop in libido from the compound - this combination of 1-DHEA + DHEA + Pregnenolone is meant to mitigate the sides generally associated with 1-DHEA...quite similar to how Dermacrine works as a base for mild PH's - but the amount of DHEA in Icon One is even higher than that of dermacrine (about 25% more).
 
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1-DHEA is a great lean mass builder, but many users suffer some pretty significant lethargy and drop in libido from the compound - this combination of 1-DHEA + DHEA + Pregnenolone is meant to mitigate the sides generally associated with 1-DHEA...quite similar to how Dermacrine works as a base for mild PH's - but the amount of DHEA in Icon One is even higher than that of dermacrine (about 25% more).
This is why this compound works so well.
 

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Thanks all. So the "normal" DHEA is 5-DHEA in Icon One? Also can I combine Icon One and Ultra 11?
 
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yes, 5-DHEA is what we generally refer to as DHEA.

You could definately stack Icon One and Ultra Eleven - Ultra Eleven stacks really well with something anabolic like Icon One
 

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I had a great experience running 1 bottle of dermacrine last summer. I felt good in the gym and the bedroom, and looked lean and shredded on the beach. This year I was thinking the same thing as OP, Icon1 is a better version of dermacrine and epiandro has always been good to me, so I’m on week 3 of Icon and UltraHard.

Icon is having more of a bulking effect than I expected. Weight is going up and I am looking full. I’ve run the popular andro pill cycles in the past hoping to put on the 10lbs noted in the college study and only saw minor recomp effects. This experience has really sold me on the benefits of transdermals over orals.

I’m on TRT so I’m not worried about any PCT, but I am noticing a little bit of lethargy in the late afternoons. Sleep has been poor lately due to a lot of outside factors as well and I am restricting caffeine intake, so I’m not worried about it. Libido wants to be super physiological, but I can tell there is a little something throwing it off from the highest possible peak - I know it would be raging a little more if it was just T, dermacrine and epiandro.

I’m going to add HCG back into the mix for the last few weeks of this run and that should alleviate any minor symptom I’m feeling.

This run is off to a really nice start, and I’m really looking forward to the good part in the next few weeks.
 

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