I had a great experience running 1 bottle of dermacrine last summer. I felt good in the gym and the bedroom, and looked lean and shredded on the beach. This year I was thinking the same thing as OP, Icon1 is a better version of dermacrine and epiandro has always been good to me, so I’m on week 3 of Icon and UltraHard.
Icon is having more of a bulking effect than I expected. Weight is going up and I am looking full. I’ve run the popular andro pill cycles in the past hoping to put on the 10lbs noted in the college study and only saw minor recomp effects. This experience has really sold me on the benefits of transdermals over orals.
I’m on TRT so I’m not worried about any PCT, but I am noticing a little bit of lethargy in the late afternoons. Sleep has been poor lately due to a lot of outside factors as well and I am restricting caffeine intake, so I’m not worried about it. Libido wants to be super physiological, but I can tell there is a little something throwing it off from the highest possible peak - I know it would be raging a little more if it was just T, dermacrine and epiandro.
I’m going to add HCG back into the mix for the last few weeks of this run and that should alleviate any minor symptom I’m feeling.
This run is off to a really nice start, and I’m really looking forward to the good part in the next few weeks.