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Q's on best way to administer hexatropin?

jenab123

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Hello,
Just received two kits of Hex. The instructions say to swish it around in your mouth and then swallow it. No carbonated beverages for at least an hour. I have read all the logs here and over at IBE forums.

What is the latest consensus on how to optimize absorption? Swish it around for an hour (or however long you can stand it)? How about drinking non-carbonated beverages less than an hour after (coffee or water)? Bad?

I guess this boils down to what is the mechanism of absorption? If it is through the tissues in the mouth, then swishing it around for as long as possible is the best idea, with NO liquids of any kind for as long as practical afterwards.

How about the 5 on 2 off thing?

Finally, what's the latest on time of day? Seems people are doing it prior to waking in AM, and also at night. What's the theory or evidence supporting either way? Thanks in advance.

AJ
 
I actually looked around the IBE forums and could not find the answer to your question.
I have kits on teh way so i'm curious too!
 
Well one point maybe our IBE rep could help with: after you swish it around in your mouth, there's a lot left over to swallow. If absorption is better in the mouth, wouldn't it then make more sense to spread the dose out over an hour or so, so that it all went through the tissue in the mouth? So maybe 1/4 dose every 15 minutes, swish it around, wait for it to soak in, repeat.

Anybody? This stuff is expenive and suggestions to max out effectiveness would be appreciated.
 
if you've read all the logs, you already know my answer, but here it is anyway...

I squirt it on the back of my tongue, and smear it around on the back of my throat & wipe some on the inside of each cheek; as much as possible, I avoid swallowing, to avoid funneling the HT down my throat.

of course, it's not possible to avoid swallowing completely, but I DO try to leave as much as possible in undisturbed contact w/ the back of my throat, as that has the best access to the blood supply (cheeks, gums & tongue really don't have much blood supply - which is why gum sticks & bitten tongues don't bleed much, and why it takes so long for novocaine to clear the tissues).

I avoid drinking (or eating) ANYTHING for a full hour after taking it, on the assumption that eating or drinking will increase the likelihood of HT being rinsed/scraped out of my mouth & end up in my stomach.
 
Yes, I did read your log and that got me thinking about this. I wanted to differ with you a little, I think there is plenty of blood supply under the tongue, so maybe squirting 1/4 syringe in there every 15 minutes and holding it would be a good way. I tried that this morning and you get almost zero residue. I don't know if this means it is all absorbed or not. But none of that high-volume saliva thing that you get from taking the whole thing at once.

Now watch, I'll gain 10 lbs. today.

AJ
 
I made a post on the IBE forums about this. It uses buccal absorbtion. Pretty much it enters the blood any way it can in the mouth. As Bodywizard pointed out, the back of the mouth is the best place, but you need to be able to squirt it there without swallowing.
 
Intersting paper on buccal absorption:

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Reading this one might conclude that a clever person made sure Hex has penetration enhancers (thus possibly some irritation to oral membranes). Also says saliva enzymes inhibit absorption. If so one might start out by a) rinsing the mouth out with water, b) sucking as much of remaining saliva out as possible, c) applying Hex to tongue and back of throat, d) lying down on one's back so it hangs around a long time back there.

I tied this today (early AM), and went back to sleep. Was like I was hit with a hammer, or on sleeping pills or something. Who knows what this means. I was also thinking 5 days on 2 off might be a good idea if these effects are cumulative.

I am notcing after only a few days on this that my skin looks better than it has in many years. Weird. No real appetite increase or weight gain, and some lethargy.

AJ
 
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